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| 04:25.26 | Vajb | so far I have found just one flaw from by restored backup. Devices security code has not changed. |
| 04:32.53 | Maxdamantus | iirc that's stored in flash. |
| 04:38.39 | Maxdamantus | (flash other than the filesystem, that is) |
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| 05:11.21 | Vajb | oh, that explains. |
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| 05:58.38 | Vajb | do you know any screen protectors that you could recommend fro n900? |
| 05:59.19 | Vajb | asking because I just used my last celly screen protector and it seems they are not made anymore. |
| 06:59.05 | KotCzarny | vajb: i just use regular one that i cut down to size |
| 06:59.12 | KotCzarny | 2usd/10pcs |
| 06:59.13 | KotCzarny | ;) |
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| 06:59.23 | KotCzarny | so when it starts getting off i cut another |
| 07:03.12 | Vajb | hmm if I order protector for bigger screen I might get two from one :p |
| 07:03.16 | Vajb | cool idea |
| 07:03.51 | KotCzarny | just keep in mind the cut is best done with exacto knife, not scissors |
| 07:03.58 | KotCzarny | so you wont bend the plastic |
| 07:04.14 | KotCzarny | and cut corners a bit too |
| 07:04.23 | KotCzarny | so they wont start peeling of that easily |
| 07:12.56 | Vajb | you mean round corners? |
| 07:13.28 | Vajb | it sure feels starnge to have buttons which have some friction and labels on them :p |
| 07:13.49 | Vajb | I just hope this is as stable hw wise |
| 07:16.35 | KotCzarny | vajb: yeah, so you wont have a square but a square with little triangles cut off at the corners |
| 07:16.53 | Maxdamantus | needs to get around to doing that. |
| 07:17.58 | KotCzarny | cutting them round would be best, but not exactly easy with exactly knife |
| 07:18.04 | KotCzarny | *exacto |
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| 09:22.00 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | "firmware" see ~lf (or ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher) sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog http://maemo.cloud-7.de/irclogs/freenode/_maemo/latest.log.html | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 09:25.41 | sicelo | bme-replacement is a a separate install, not tied to PK. |
| 09:33.47 | sixwheeledbeast | Yes. it has it's own repo. |
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| 10:03.16 | luke-jr | can i play pokemon go on n900? |
| 10:08.38 | sixwheeledbeast | ios or andriod only. you would need to get apkenv working and have a google store account. |
| 10:08.57 | KotCzarny | or vnc server? |
| 10:09.36 | KotCzarny | although that would require passing gps coords somehow |
| 10:09.50 | sixwheeledbeast | in that case just play the "proper" game |
| 10:10.18 | luke-jr | I've put the "proper" games behind me |
| 10:11.11 | luke-jr | I also haven't powered on my N900 in over a year. :x |
| 10:11.13 | sixwheeledbeast | i think you can play the roms on n900, now I think about it. |
| 10:11.36 | KotCzarny | my n900 is powered on since 2009 |
| 10:11.56 | sixwheeledbeast | ^ |
| 10:12.23 | KotCzarny | as for gaming, gweled is my top1 app |
| 10:12.30 | luke-jr | I've migrated entirely to Pixel XL + GPD Win 2 |
| 10:12.40 | sixwheeledbeast | 2048 |
| 10:12.45 | KotCzarny | other fun games are gnurobbo and hex-a-hop |
| 10:14.18 | sixwheeledbeast | and thembloodyduck |
| 10:14.21 | sixwheeledbeast | s |
| 10:14.56 | luke-jr | don't forget all the fun CVEs |
| 10:15.13 | KotCzarny | you dont get cves if you dont connect to the internet ;) |
| 10:15.40 | luke-jr | what is the N900 for if not that? |
| 10:15.48 | KotCzarny | phone? |
| 10:15.57 | KotCzarny | also, pocket console |
| 10:16.02 | KotCzarny | and pocket audio player |
| 10:16.05 | KotCzarny | (for me) |
| 10:16.22 | KotCzarny | doubles as pendrive sometimes too |
| 10:19.30 | sicelo | luke-jr: maemo-leste |
| 10:20.19 | luke-jr | sicelo: wat? |
| 10:20.30 | luke-jr | KotCzarny: phone and console require internet |
| 10:21.27 | KotCzarny | sure, but my audio player uses latest libav |
| 10:22.13 | sicelo | there's now Maemo Leste - based on Devuan. say bye bye to the CVEsYou may want to check it out |
| 10:22.14 | KotCzarny | also, phone uses gsm not internet to connect |
| 10:22.35 | KotCzarny | and console is mostly ssh/telnet |
| 10:29.36 | sixwheeledbeast | I don't think my device is never not behind a firewall of some sort. I don't use mobile data. |
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| 10:31.46 | sixwheeledbeast | What CVE's in particular anyway? |
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| 10:48.48 | sicelo | i don't think he's talking about specific ones, but that the OS has very old components that are known (or likely to) have a number of CVE's againsts them |
| 10:55.07 | sixwheeledbeast | I can only recall ssh. Some of the components are so old they where pre CVE |
| 10:55.37 | sixwheeledbeast | https on browser is an issue I admit |
| 11:10.16 | Vajb | sixwheeledbeast: your top scroere in 2048 is? |
| 11:11.12 | Vajb | DocScrutinizer05: that's where it was, but backupmenu.item didn't find it from there. I quadruble checked that file path. |
| 11:11.53 | sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: Maemo? |
| 11:12.28 | Vajb | yeah |
| 11:12.37 | Vajb | score* |
| 11:12.42 | sixwheeledbeast | wok is a cool game too |
| 11:13.03 | sixwheeledbeast | I have no idea seems to have reset |
| 11:13.21 | Vajb | i like puzzles game pack |
| 11:13.39 | Vajb | sixwheeledbeast: it wont show your top unless you start new game in it |
| 11:14.46 | sixwheeledbeast | That's embarrassing... 33288 |
| 11:15.05 | Vajb | I have score: 180596 and number: 8192 :p |
| 11:15.50 | sixwheeledbeast | Do note that Maemo 2048 is slightly easy than original version due to a small bug ;) |
| 11:15.51 | Vajb | I felt a bit fooled after I got firs 4k number. It kinda rules the name |
| 11:15.57 | KotCzarny | i have 330000+ in gweled :P |
| 11:16.37 | Vajb | yes, I know, but since this is channel named maemo, I don't care :p |
| 11:17.03 | Vajb | I think I haven't played gweled |
| 11:17.14 | KotCzarny | nice timewaster |
| 11:17.26 | KotCzarny | match-3 |
| 11:17.32 | Vajb | but I recently installed Rocks'n'diamonds |
| 11:59.59 | brolin_empey | WTF? Facebook is an âAndroid system appâ on the stock OS on the LG G5 and cannot be uninstalled, at least not from the Google Play Store on Android? |
| 12:00.29 | KotCzarny | support google, it's good |
| 12:00.50 | KotCzarny | closed OS is next best thing under the moon |
| 12:03.56 | brolin_empey | At least I do not use Apple iOS, the Icon of Sin. :-P |
| 12:04.13 | KotCzarny | google is heading straight to hell |
| 12:05.31 | brolin_empey | Icon of Sin was a reference to Doom II: Hell on Earth in case you missed it. |
| 12:05.39 | KotCzarny | i did. |
| 12:07.07 | Vajb | I just love android's individual app settings. Can render facebook in its little bubble f you wish |
| 12:07.29 | KotCzarny | it still runs in bg |
| 12:07.48 | KotCzarny | not every android allows you to disable builtin apks |
| 12:07.51 | brolin_empey | Typing idclev30 (id Software change level to 30) in Doom II will warp to MAP30: Icon of Sin. |
| 12:07.59 | Vajb | it does, but if it is blocked from every access it can't do much |
| 12:08.41 | Vajb | oh didn't know it might be os version dependent feature |
| 12:08.48 | Vajb | I use Lineage os |
| 12:10.12 | luke-jr | brolin_empey: you can disable system apps |
| 12:10.25 | luke-jr | brolin_empey: they can't be uninstalled because they're part of the ROM |
| 12:10.34 | KotCzarny | luke-jr: not on every android |
| 12:10.42 | luke-jr | on stock Android at least |
| 12:10.50 | KotCzarny | most people have some samsung |
| 12:11.03 | KotCzarny | which allows disabling for some |
| 12:11.05 | KotCzarny | but not for all |
| 12:11.29 | KotCzarny | afair i had some that i would like to nuke, yet they were on 'dont touch' list |
| 12:12.55 | brolin_empey | I do not want to replace the stock OS after my bad experience replacing the OS on my Galaxy Note 3, which still has strange effects from replacing the stock OS even after reverting to the stock OS. I reverted to the stock OS because my CyanogenMod installation broke and could not be fixed. |
| 12:12.55 | luke-jr | then ssh to it and use pm hide |
| 12:13.17 | KotCzarny | no root, no fun |
| 12:13.49 | luke-jr | I'd love to use LineageOS on my Pixel XL, but AIUI Google will sabotage my phone if I do |
| 12:13.49 | KotCzarny | but i treat rooting as a temporary workaround working thanks to holes in os |
| 12:14.15 | KotCzarny | which get closed, and target being closed os without user moddability |
| 12:16.37 | sunshavi | KotCzarny: Your chinese battery works fine with the battery applet? |
| 12:17.02 | sunshavi | KotCzarny: mine is not working battery applet does not show the level of charge |
| 12:17.26 | sunshavi | KotCzarny: and phone turns off unexpectedly without the battery applet noticing it |
| 12:17.54 | KotCzarny | sunshavi: maybe you can transplant the head of the battery |
| 12:18.06 | KotCzarny | but best is to just buy polarcell or something |
| 12:18.18 | brolin_empey | All of the Pixel series has a difficult to remove battery if I recall correctly. The LG G5 and V20 still have an easily removable battery but the G6 and V30 do not. |
| 12:18.28 | sunshavi | KotCzarny: polarcell works fine with battery applet then? |
| 12:18.50 | KotCzarny | sunshavi: many people use them without problems, so i assume: yes |
| 12:19.03 | KotCzarny | mine is 'mept-5800n maxximus extra power 1600mAh' |
| 12:19.37 | KotCzarny | but i got it used as a part of some other n900 |
| 12:19.41 | KotCzarny | and dont know its history |
| 12:19.48 | sunshavi | KotCzarny: 'mept-5800n maxximus extra power 1600mAh' works fine with battery applet? |
| 12:20.04 | KotCzarny | sunshavi: yes, shows capacity, and in battery-eye other stats |
| 12:20.13 | sicelo | sunshavi: stock battery applet? |
| 12:20.22 | sunshavi | sicelo: yes |
| 12:20.25 | KotCzarny | fun part it shows ~1240mAh |
| 12:20.33 | KotCzarny | which is way lower than stated '1600' ;) |
| 12:20.39 | sicelo | i mean, not bme-replacement, for example? |
| 12:20.44 | KotCzarny | so just buy polarcell and get real 1500mAh |
| 12:20.47 | sunshavi | guys. brb |
| 12:22.46 | brolin_empey | Also, the analog audio connector was removed from the Pixel series unless the Pixel 3 or a later model (changes too quickly, I lost track) readded it. |
| 13:22.43 | brolin_empey | On any form of Android, is it possible to set a limit on cellular data usage per application instead of only for all applications? I want to install RescueTime for Android on my LG G5 but I removed RescueTime from my Galaxy Note 3 because RescueTime for Android transferred over 1 GB (!!!) over the cellular data network in one billing period when my quota is only 2 GB per billing period but I do not know if RescueTime transferred this much information |
| 13:22.43 | brolin_empey | because it got stuck because the minimum version of Android was increased from 4.4 or earlier to 5.0 while I was still using it but my Galaxy Note 3 is still stuck on 4.4 thanks to Samsung, which is part of my reason for switching to the LG G5 running Android OS 8. |
| 13:24.55 | brolin_empey | I mean billing period for cellular service, which is one month but not a calendar month. My billing period for RescueTime is one year but not a calendar year. |
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| 13:51.53 | brolin_empey | Does Apple omit a âdelete to the rightâ key from some of their hardware keyboards for left-to-right languages because the OS has a modifier key for the Backspace/âdelete to the leftâ key to delete to the right instead of to the left? I mean does Mac OS X have such a modifier? It occurs to me that such a modifier may be why Apple omits this key from some keyboards. |
| 13:53.56 | brolin_empey | The Commodore 64 keyboard does not even have dedicated arrow keys for all four directions but the Commodore 128 keyboard does. |
| 14:18.25 | sicelo | you write English-Greek sometimes :p |
| 14:19.44 | sicelo | ... RescueTime for Android transferred over 1 GB ... but I do not know if RescueTime transferred this much information ... one month but not a calendar month ... one year but not a calendar year |
| 14:19.58 | sicelo | i admit it can be understood after a while |
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| 18:08.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: bootmenu and vackupmenu are very simple and sgellscript-based. can't be hard to check each single aspect and detail |
| 18:08.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | backupmenu |
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| 18:16.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://pastebin.com/NCksYSQy |
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| 20:54.00 | Vajb | DocScrutinizer05: I went even further and took md5sum against each file I considered part of it and they were equal with my other device. Only difference being that in other device it works as expected and with other it does not. |
| 20:55.02 | Vajb | And in my freshly flashed device it worked too, but not in the restored backup. So something is off in my setup, but it does not matter since now I know how to circle that problem. |
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| 22:25.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | you're aware the backup is just a tarball and you may restore selectively? |
| 22:26.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | also never restore a backup taken under a different kernel, unless you selectively exclude kernel modules from restoring |
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| 22:32.33 | Vajb | yes I know that, but I since I don't know what causes this behaviour I have no idea what to exclude. |
| 22:33.02 | Vajb | hmm too many I's. Looks like past bed time :) |