| 00:02.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, the new packages are for sure a more plausible reason for things working now |
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| 00:05.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | re icons in applauncher: there's a icon update job that should get started by the apt postinstall script. I can't recall the script name right now off top of my head |
| 00:07.35 | Enrico_M_RX-51 | So for some reason the script did not work for opera and cutetube. |
| 00:08.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly jobname was update-desktop-database or another of the update<TAB><TAB> |
| 00:09.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, that's a known issue that smetimes this script fails |
| 00:09.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw I think you need at least cutetube2 |
| 00:10.44 | Enrico_M_RX-51 | Trying with mediabox, but seems no better. |
| 00:13.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man1/update-desktop-database.1.html wrong job |
| 00:20.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess you already restarted desktip / device? |
| 00:20.47 | Enrico_M_RX-51 | No, since now I have all icons. |
| 00:25.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | Enrico_M_RX-51: /usr/bin/gtk-update-icon-cache |
| 00:26.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | found thabnks to my great tool whichgrep |
| 00:26.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | alias whichgrep='find `echo $PATH|sed "s/:/ /g"` -iname ' |
| 00:27.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# whichgrep '*icon*' |
| 00:27.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 00:28.14 | Enrico_M_RX-51 | Thanks, for now won't look further. Just in case. |
| 00:38.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | finally needs to make a script that deploys all the aliases and bash startup scripts to $user@$targetmachine |
| 00:50.30 | Enrico_M_RX-51 | Installed cutetube2, founds videos but cant play them. Again no icon; ran that script as root. No result. |
| 00:50.45 | Enrico_M_RX-51 | finds... |
| 00:50.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | restart gildon-desktop |
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| 00:51.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | hildon even |
| 00:51.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually simply kill it |
| 00:51.42 | Enrico_M_RX-51 | kill pid? |
| 00:53.25 | Enrico_M_RX-51 | Ok, worked. |
| 00:53.46 | Enrico_M_RX-51 | But cutetube2 not. |
| 00:54.33 | Enrico_M_RX-51 | That's it for today. Bedtime. Bye! |
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| 07:37.41 | brolin_empey | Vajb: If you only need to host a static Web site or even a dynamic one if it can work with the software in Ubuntu 8.10, I can provide you hosting on my virtual dedicated server in Toronto. |
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| 11:11.49 | Wikiwide | Abiword is Gtk+, but not exactly Hildon - menu is atrocious, just like navit-gtk. And, when I ask File Manager to open .rtf with Abiword, Abiword fires up... Without the file, just Untitled. |
| 11:12.44 | Wikiwide | MaemoPad is far more Hildonised, but... Instead of "Send with Email", "Send with Bluetooth" in menu, there should be single Share button, like everywhere. |
| 11:13.35 | Wikiwide | And, MaemoPad, "Close" button should not be on menu! See top right corner. |
| 11:16.18 | Wikiwide | Granted, MaemoPad can only open plain text files? |
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| 11:18.37 | Wikiwide | I wish I knew which Linux program treats RTF as native format, not as nuisance. |
| 11:18.57 | KotCzarny | libreoffice? |
| 11:18.59 | Wikiwide | So far, Libreoffice is best but far from perfect? |
| 11:19.14 | KotCzarny | it's nice because it's multiplatform |
| 11:19.25 | KotCzarny | but not really suited for 800x480 |
| 11:19.29 | Wikiwide | Formatting is the trouble. Text is easy. |
| 11:19.43 | KotCzarny | you can always convert text format |
| 11:19.51 | KotCzarny | with cmdline tools |
| 11:20.01 | Wikiwide | I don't care much for multi-platform programs. Libreoffice tends to depend on Java and be slow? |
| 11:20.19 | KotCzarny | it depends on java for some functions only |
| 11:20.24 | KotCzarny | i think |
| 11:21.39 | Wikiwide | Either way, I don't think libreoffice is in Maemo repositories? |
| 11:21.59 | KotCzarny | i bet it requires recent libs |
| 11:22.07 | KotCzarny | not to mention heaps of memory |
| 11:23.04 | Wikiwide | Heaps of memory, yesss... I would understand it for a docx, but I just wish for a text editor for a humble rtf. |
| 11:23.21 | KotCzarny | abiword then |
| 11:23.44 | KotCzarny | or rtf->html and some html editor |
| 11:24.01 | KotCzarny | but that becomes a heap of trash sooner or later |
| 11:24.18 | Wikiwide | Unless there is a more universally readable format for text document with formatting? And, HTML is bad at being a document - it doesn't understand pages. |
| 11:24.30 | KotCzarny | pdf? |
| 11:24.31 | KotCzarny | :P |
| 11:25.15 | Wikiwide | LaTeX to PDF sounds excellent. |
| 11:25.35 | KotCzarny | and yes, latex is universal academic formatting format |
| 11:26.23 | Wikiwide | I wish... Docx is universal academic format, half of the time, in my humble experience. |
| 11:26.29 | Wikiwide | Except, the only GUI for that is LyX, Qt-based. |
| 11:31.48 | Wikiwide | https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=30876 |
| 11:32.14 | Wikiwide | Anybody game to feed a LyX deb to auto-builder? |
| 11:45.10 | brolin_empey | LibreOffice needs a JRE only for Base as far as I know. |
| 11:46.02 | brolin_empey | CSS can control page breaks in an HTML document. |
| 11:46.30 | KotCzarny | html sucks for books |
| 11:46.56 | KotCzarny | although if one doesnt care much for layout it's fine |
| 11:52.03 | brolin_empey | Maybe the Xanadu project of Ted Nelson is a paged medium? The World Wide Web is a continuous (non-paged) medium but CSS allows some control over paging. |
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| 11:54.04 | brolin_empey | Gopher still exists too but I do not know if it offers a benefit for the use case of Oksana. |
| 11:57.41 | brolin_empey | You can still use PostScript but even the âAdobe Readerâ can read only PDF, not PostScript. |
| 11:58.02 | KotCzarny | pdf is subset of postscript |
| 11:58.30 | KotCzarny | or it was long time ago |
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| 16:51.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>when I ask File Manager to open .rtf with Abiword, Abiword fires up... Without the file<< check the desktop file, if the app gets file parameter in there |
| 16:55.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>a more universally readable format for text document with formatting<< LaTex, but you mentioned that a few lines down already |
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| 17:00.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | you should invent non-paged books instead ;-P Like Tora rolls, only modern and miniaturized and motorized |
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| 20:56.56 | sunshavi | Wikiwide: epub is a nice format is is html based there is a pkg "dorian" for reading epubs on n900 |
| 20:57.21 | sunshavi | pandoc o calibre are the tools 4 converting among different formats |
| 21:35.51 | Maxdamantus | imagines the best way to use epub would be to just run an HTTP server for it. |
| 21:36.36 | Maxdamantus | uses ZIM on N900 similarly: just running kiwix-serve and loading pages through Opera. |
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