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| 02:58.46 | bleb | i thought group texts were always sent as mms, so i dont see a need for gateways or a hostname... |
| 03:00.45 | buZz | afaik mms on 2G works with a actual data connection to a specific gateway |
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| 04:26.08 | bleb | buZz: interesting |
| 04:26.13 | bleb | maybe i will contact at&t support |
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| 06:40.07 | KotCzarny | {-0-}: if it works on another phone, try cloning the ip settings? |
| 06:40.28 | KotCzarny | also, tcpdump+dhcpclient might be some help |
| 06:41.05 | KotCzarny | dhcpcd/dhclient/whatever is there |
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| 07:20.33 | sicelo | i've never seen a getway on my n900 in all the different networks that i've used it on since 2011 |
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| 07:21.02 | sicelo | if your Internet doesn't work, is it perhaps a matter of 2G vs. 3G? |
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| 07:50.17 | buZz | sicelo: then how do IPs get routed from your local interface? |
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| 08:04.31 | sicelo | i don't know, or care :) |
| 08:04.40 | sicelo | i'm on it even now |
| 08:05.09 | sicelo | ~ $ ip r sh |
| 08:05.10 | sicelo | default dev gprs0 scope link |
| 08:05.53 | KotCzarny | usuall ppp way |
| 08:05.59 | KotCzarny | send and hope for the best |
| 08:06.00 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 08:06.11 | bencoh | indeed (ppp) |
| 08:07.05 | bencoh | as for mms, there is a "gateway", although not the same as in the IP context |
| 08:08.32 | sicelo | i've never used mms since N900 :) |
| 08:12.08 | Maxdamantus | I imagine a default gateway wouldn't really make sense on a PPP connection. |
| 08:12.21 | Maxdamantus | It's not like it's going to go anywhere other than .. where it goes. |
| 08:15.03 | sicelo | yeah, that's why they are /32 |
| 08:15.33 | KotCzarny | maxd, would be if other part was just a dumb bridge |
| 08:16.47 | Maxdamantus | I don't have a huge amount of knowledge of how PPP/P-t-P connections tend to work, but my ifconfig shows gprs0 as having a HWADDR of 0-0-0-0-0-... and it says "NOARP" |
| 08:17.09 | Maxdamantus | The only thing a default gateway does normally is determine which MAC address is used as the destination of the outgoing frames. |
| 08:17.39 | Maxdamantus | but a MAC address should be irrelevant in this case .. I'm guessing it's not even using ethernet frames. |
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| 21:26.13 | {-0-} | This new day brought internet access! Nothing changed this end since last night, not even a reboot. But this morning at work ( in a nearby town ) it was working! Here at home access is intermittent at best ( even though showing full signal strength ) |
| 21:27.36 | {-0-} | when it's working route -n shows only that one 0.0.0.0 gprs0 entry and nothing else, which looks plain wrong to me :D |
| 21:42.20 | sicelo | don't worry about it. we all have that :-P |
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| 23:50.57 | Maxdamantus | {-0-}: because there are no ethernet frames involved, so there's no destination MAC address for some gateway. |
| 23:52.31 | Maxdamantus | {-0-}: on ethernet, you look up the MAC address of the default gateway using ARP, and put that MAC address as the destination of frames wrapping IP packets that need to be send outside of your broadcast domain. |
| 23:52.54 | Maxdamantus | {-0-}: afaik, none of that makes sense on PPP/gprs |