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| 08:03.47 | brolin_empey | I carry a 128-GB USB SSD in my wallet/clutch but this drive uses VFAT32, which limits the maximum size of a file to 2 GiB, which is increasingly becoming a First-World problem because it means I have to bring a 1.5-TB USB HDD that uses NTFS from my office when I want to copy a >2-GiB file via sneakernet. If I reformat my USB SSD as NTFS, am I likely to use a platform that lacks NTFS support? I do not use Apple platforms but I use Android 4.4 as distributed |
| 08:03.47 | brolin_empey | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:15.53 | brolin_empey | I realise that I can split and join a >2-GiB file to work around the VFAT maximum file size limitation but I cannot be bothered because it does not seem worthwhile because I am working around a limitation caused by still using a disk file system from 1996 (VFAT32 was introduced by Windows 95 OSR2 from 1996?) on a 128-GB flash memory device in 2018. |
| 08:16.43 | Maxdamantus | Why not just have two partitions on the SSD? |
| 08:16.58 | Maxdamantus | one for FAT32 and the other for NTFS. |
| 08:20.19 | brolin_empey | Because if I still use a platform that lacks NTFS support then I may not know which files from the NTFS volume I will need to use on a platform that lacks NTFS support? |
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| 08:23.25 | brolin_empey | Ironically, I said that I do not use Apple platforms but the >2-GiB file I cannot copy this time is the virtual HDD file of my virtual Hackintosh for running Mac OS X 10.6 in VirtualBox. :-D |
| 08:39.04 | brolin_empey | I ran â# find / -iname '*ntfs*'â on my handheld computer, will see what I find. |
| 08:42.17 | brolin_empey | Nothing. Heh. Does that indicate that this Android installation lacks NTFS support even though NTFS may actually be older than Linux if you include use within Microsoft whilst Windows NT 3.1 was still being developed before the final release in 1993? |
| 08:42.59 | brolin_empey | I guess Android may ship without NTFS support due to software patents? I recall reading something about that years ago. |
| 08:49.33 | brolin_empey | Judging by /proc/filesystems , this Android installation supports exfat but not ntfs? How far back can exfat support be retrofitted onto Windows NT? Even Windows 2000 shipped in late 1999 with NTFS support and generic USB Mass Storage support. |
| 08:53.17 | brolin_empey | It seems like the pragmatic compromise in this case is to buy another >=120-GB USB SSD to format as NTFS and keep in my wallet/clutch for copying >2-GiB files via sneakernet. |
| 08:55.41 | KotCzarny | ntfs in kernel isnt very good |
| 08:55.50 | KotCzarny | usuall way is ntfs-3g via fuse |
| 08:55.57 | KotCzarny | thats why no android ntfs |
| 08:56.45 | brolin_empey | Or just continue using my current workaround, which works but I do not carry the USB HDD with me except when I need it because it is too heavy and bulky compared to a USB SSD. Too heavy and bulky? Add a crap TN AMLCD panel and it sounds like a notebook computer. :-P |
| 08:57.22 | KotCzarny | or stop using android |
| 08:59.42 | brolin_empey | And use what? Debian on a Gemini? I will definitely not replace my Galaxy Note 3 with an N900 running any OS. |
| 08:59.51 | KotCzarny | go and live in the woods |
| 08:59.56 | KotCzarny | would solve a lot of problems |
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| 09:01.41 | brolin_empey | I already reside in a building made partially of wood. :-P The street outside is lined with trees. |
| 09:02.02 | KotCzarny | not far enough |
| 09:03.31 | brolin_empey | One of the main streets in Vancouver is named Oak Street. Does that count? |
| 09:03.50 | KotCzarny | not woody enough |
| 09:03.59 | KotCzarny | there are no streets in the woods |
| 09:05.03 | brolin_empey | I have an HDD that contains an installation of Debian GNU+Linux 3, which is codenamed woody. |
| 09:05.18 | KotCzarny | there are no penguins in the woods |
| 09:06.00 | brolin_empey | There are bears in the forrest, though, and I use Microsoft Windows. |
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| 09:06.18 | KotCzarny | there are no windows in the woods |
| 09:07.33 | brolin_empey | Linus Torvalds lives in Oregon last I checked, so are you certain there are no penguins in the forrest? |
| 09:08.13 | KotCzarny | virtual penguins dont count |
| 09:09.03 | brolin_empey | Do they wave a Zero Flag? |
| 09:10.53 | brolin_empey | I reside near a lumber yard. Does that count? |
| 09:11.04 | KotCzarny | closer, but not close enough |
| 09:12.40 | brolin_empey | I was involved with the Apache Forrest project. Does that count? I did not use Forrest on woody, though. |
| 09:13.18 | KotCzarny | cant comment on that, although there were apache members in the forest long time ago |
| 09:14.50 | brolin_empey | Does Tim Berners-Lee have a family web instead of a family tree? |
| 09:15.06 | KotCzarny | bearners |
| 09:16.33 | brolin_empey | He did not bear his children, though, his first wife, Nancy, did. |
| 09:17.19 | brolin_empey | The second comma should be a semicolon. |
| 09:17.41 | KotCzarny | nope |
| 09:17.51 | KotCzarny | first comma shouldn't be there probably |
| 09:18.45 | brolin_empey | Is a semicolon less shitty than a colon? |
| 09:19.02 | KotCzarny | six wheeled colon |
| 09:19.42 | brolin_empey | Nancy missed her period at least twice because she bore two children for Tim. |
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| 09:23.49 | brolin_empey | Does a Commodore brand of filing cabinet contain a paper file system? |
| 09:25.21 | brolin_empey | I have A4 paper even though I live in Canada and my company has an (Audi) A4. |
| 09:36.54 | brolin_empey | There are Windows and windows in Woodinville, which is near Bellevue and Redmond, which is where Windows was made. |
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| 09:38.24 | brolin_empey | PKWARE has and Phil Katz had at least two types of ZIP code. |
| 09:41.36 | brolin_empey | Did Robert Prince use Texas Instruments to compose soundtracks for Id Software? |
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| 11:32.45 | Vajb | and if I have several different webs and I use Dijkstra's algorithm to get minimum spanning tree from each. Does the end result count as forest? |
| 11:36.35 | brolin_empey | If you have a member of a certain series of Ford pick-up truck in a wooded area, do you have a forest Ranger? |
| 11:37.28 | brolin_empey | Or a player character from the Quake series? |
| 11:40.03 | brolin_empey | Dijkstra is dead so maybe you reach a dead tree? |
| 11:41.19 | brolin_empey | Knuth is still alive but is very old. |
| 11:42.30 | brolin_empey | The Foxconn and the Grapes? |
| 11:44.00 | brolin_empey | Software that manages contacts as in persons should have a standard field for date of death in addition to date of birth. |
| 11:45.06 | brolin_empey | Then it could ask you if you try to contact a contact who is recorded as dead. |
| 11:49.40 | brolin_empey | The ironic reality is that I currently or at least used to hold AAPL shares bought on my behalf, which says that Apple Inc. is economically valuable to me even though I do not use their products and avoid giving them any money. |
| 11:51.51 | brolin_empey | I use the CUPS but I have used it since before Apple bought it or bought all of Easy Software Products (?). Or merged with? |
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| 12:06.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | brolin_empey: seems your nick got hijacked by a spambot, the version that posts random citations without any context or meaning |
| 12:06.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | please pm me to have +q lifted |
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