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| 00:31.17 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~lf (or ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher) sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 00:31.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~lstkeys " magnet " |
| 00:31.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys " magnet " |
| 00:32.05 | brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: infobot replies if you ask them if they are pregnant. :-P |
| 00:32.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | huh? |
| 00:32.32 | brolin_empey | infobot: Pregnant? |
| 00:35.12 | infobot | Yes, brolin_empey, and it's your child. |
| 00:35.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, it has over 100k factoids |
| 00:35.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+status |
| 00:35.23 | infobot | Since Fri Oct 26 00:28:51 2018, there have been 0 modifications, 1 question, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 1 command. I have been awake for 6m 31s this session, and currently reference 119772 factoids. I'm using about 80364 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 1.43/0.49 child 0/0 |
| 00:35.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | and it lags like mad |
| 00:35.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | soon will go offline again with ping timeout |
| 00:35.23 | brolin_empey | It used to reply with something like âYes, and it is yours.â. Search the channel log for when I asked it if it is pregnant years ago. |
| 00:35.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not excited |
| 00:35.23 | brolin_empey | I was joking because you said ~fsckyou, implying that you impregnated it. |
| 00:35.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooooh |
| 00:35.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+uptime |
| 00:36.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys #maemo*magnet |
| 00:36.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys #maemo.*magnet |
| 00:36.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues magnet |
| 00:37.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~magnet |
| 00:37.40 | infobot | from memory, magnet is magnet:?xt=urn:btih:9b0fa597ab8bdd89a57434876947dbe378a79aad&dn=devuan_jessie_beta&tr=udp://tracker.dyne.org:6969 |
| 00:37.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | phhh |
| 00:38.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo magnet |
| 00:38.06 | infobot | magnet -- created by jaromil <~jaromil@unaffiliated/jaromil> at Fri Apr 29 19:06:41 2016 (909 days); it has been requested 4 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 26s ago. |
| 00:38.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ohmy |
| 00:38.24 | brolin_empey | infobot: Menopausal? |
| 00:39.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget magnet |
| 00:39.14 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i forgot magnet |
| 00:39.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys cover |
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| 00:40.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget i don't know if bub's compaq recover cd |
| 00:40.22 | infobot | i forgot i don't know if bub's compaq recover cd, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 00:40.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget discovers that scribble pad |
| 00:40.40 | infobot | i forgot discovers that scribble pad, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 00:40.55 | brolin_empey | ~forget future |
| 00:40.56 | infobot | brolin_empey: i forgot future |
| 00:41.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys 'cover ' |
| 00:41.10 | brolin_empey | 0_o |
| 00:41.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~unforget future |
| 00:41.24 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: Successfully recovered 'future'. Have fun now. |
| 00:41.31 | brolin_empey | What was the future? |
| 00:41.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ignore brolin_empey |
| 00:41.33 | infobot | error: chan #maemo is invalid. |
| 00:42.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo future |
| 00:42.29 | infobot | future -- created by sydb <mpacey@host62-7-103-113.btinternet.com> at Fri Sep 1 21:40:06 2000 (6628 days); last modified 1m 33s ago by brolin_empey; it has been requested 5 times, last by ZogG_laptop at Thu Jul 19 11:41:29 2012. |
| 00:42.48 | brolin_empey | ~future |
| 00:42.48 | infobot | i guess future is bright |
| 00:43.36 | brolin_empey | ~past |
| 00:44.15 | brolin_empey | A history of the future, heh. |
| 00:44.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~past is <reply>today's past is yesterday's future |
| 00:44.22 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 00:45.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~past |
| 00:45.05 | infobot | today's past is yesterday's future |
| 00:46.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~attack brolin_empey |
| 00:46.15 | infobot | ACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing brolin_empey |
| 00:48.35 | brolin_empey | Is the national debt of the USA like entropy? |
| 00:48.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | never shrinking? |
| 00:50.02 | brolin_empey | It can only remain the same or increase? |
| 00:50.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | what I said ;-) |
| 00:51.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | like time goes backward, like water goes over the bridge, US national dept shrinks |
| 00:52.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | suspects there's no factoid dealing with missing magnet in N900 cover |
| 00:56.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~#maemo magnet is <reply>the magnet in cover points south pole outwards, N to device |
| 00:56.21 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 00:57.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | HTH |
| 00:57.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~magnet |
| 00:57.22 | infobot | the magnet in cover points south pole outwards, N to device |
| 00:58.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, #maemo magnet is <reply>in Nokia N900 the magnet in battery cover points south pole outwards, N to device |
| 00:58.11 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay |
| 00:58.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~magnet |
| 00:58.15 | infobot | in Nokia N900 the magnet in battery cover points south pole outwards, N to device |
| 00:59.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | N.B: the N pole of any free spinning magnet turns to eath's south |
| 01:00.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | does it? |
| 01:02.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually NOOOO! what a fuck, the earth has a magnetic NORTH pole on south, and a SOUTH pole at north |
| 01:02.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | what a weird idiocy |
| 01:03.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | so a magnetic N is what points to earth's N |
| 01:04.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, #maemo magnet is <reply>in Nokia N900 the magnet in battery cover points north pole outwards, S to device |
| 01:04.21 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay |
| 01:06.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | IOW when you'd use the N900 as a compass needle, the screen would point South, and backside North |
| 01:09.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Erdmagnetfeld.png |
| 01:11.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.waldorf-ideen-pool.de/Schule/faecher/physik/klasse-7/magnetismus/allgemeines/geographischer-nordpol-und-magnetischer-suedpol |
| 01:14.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: >>uptime 14 days and it's still indexing my music<< are you sure you didn't just close your battery cover so tracker restarted indexing the complete uSD? |
| 01:16.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw a *NASTY* fscked problem when you got a magnetic clip closing the lid of your N900 holster, each time you remove the device, it slides along the holster's magnet and may think the battery lid got removed for a fraction of a second |
| 01:16.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | ... and thus restart tracker indexing |
| 01:17.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-S |
| 01:18.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | brolin_empey: you already asleep? or did you run from infobot before she starts bitching at you about the baby? |
| 01:18.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+status |
| 01:18.59 | infobot | Since Fri Oct 26 00:28:51 2018, there have been 8 modifications, 7 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 10 commands. I have been awake for 50m 8s this session, and currently reference 119774 factoids. I'm using about 80860 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 4.81/1.34 child 0/0 |
| 01:51.13 | brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: I just came home from my office. It is 18:50 here. |
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| 05:41.09 | sicelo | thanks buZz for checking. now, to find a suitable magnet :-) |
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| 06:10.04 | Vajb | get some huge neodym magnet :p |
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| 07:59.38 | totalizator | sicelo: haven't heard about Maemo Leste, thanks |
| 08:01.13 | totalizator | oh gosh, I remember the day when my magnet from n900 fell into the grass, like in slow motion ;__; |
| 08:04.04 | KotCzarny | for one of my n900s without magnes i just bough replacement (used) cover cheaply ~1usd |
| 08:06.22 | sicelo | how much is a complete working N900 KotCzarny? |
| 08:07.00 | KotCzarny | depends on luck |
| 08:07.23 | KotCzarny | from ~20usd to ~50usd |
| 08:07.25 | sicelo | usual range? |
| 08:07.31 | sicelo | thanks |
| 08:07.39 | KotCzarny | 50+ usd is almost new quality |
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| 08:24.20 | sicelo | thanks. |
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| 08:27.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast^: you might want to change "while true" to "while sleep 0.1" in ~beasttweaks. Needs bash! |
| 08:34.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | totalizator: pondered luring the N900 magnet out of the grass with another ("huge") magnet? |
| 08:36.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | sicelo: let me know which solution you came up with for the replacement magnet. I think cutting a tiny piece off a plastic fridge magnet might work |
| 08:44.05 | totalizator | huge magnet, yes, that's something I carry around usually - kind of a lucky charm ;) |
| 08:46.48 | KotCzarny | there are people NOT carrying HUGE magnet with them ALL the time? |
| 08:48.37 | totalizator | ask Steve Wozniak https://gizmodo.com/5926598/the-amazing-contents-of-steve-wozniaks-travel-backpack |
| 08:50.23 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 08:51.05 | KotCzarny | mine has 2 cellphones, slim power bank, e-ink e-reader and usb 3g modem |
| 08:51.22 | sicelo | i have one of those magnetic name tag things somewhere. hope the magnet is strong enough |
| 08:51.23 | KotCzarny | and a swissbit |
| 08:51.49 | KotCzarny | also microusb cable (for powerbank) |
| 08:52.00 | KotCzarny | atm also usb-uasp (sata adapter) |
| 08:52.43 | KotCzarny | also pendrive and a mirror |
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| 08:55.39 | totalizator | I carry an usb3 external ssd with Linux as I'm too paranoid to leave it at work :E |
| 08:56.02 | KotCzarny | grab some dedi box (or setup one at home) ? |
| 08:56.20 | totalizator | easier that carrying the laptop plus it's perfectly bootable on any pc |
| 08:56.22 | KotCzarny | sysarm has a nice offer |
| 08:56.29 | KotCzarny | ah, for that |
| 08:57.55 | totalizator | dedi box? |
| 08:58.07 | KotCzarny | as opposed to vps |
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| 09:27.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | totalizator: there's more magnets around that you might think, usually |
| 09:28.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | e.g. headphones |
| 09:34.49 | sixwheeledbeast^ | keyboards slider? hard drives, microwaves |
| 09:35.51 | sixwheeledbeast^ | or is this a magnet to fit in as a replacement? |
| 09:36.23 | sixwheeledbeast^ | ~logs |
| 09:36.24 | infobot | All conversations are logged to http://infobot.rikers.org/%23maemo/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/ |
| 09:36.31 | KotCzarny | with tlc ssd, old magnetic hdds are just too clunky |
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| 09:36.48 | KotCzarny | (comparing prices) |
| 09:38.38 | sixwheeledbeast^ | I still prefer HDD for storage |
| 09:39.01 | KotCzarny | for long time storage, yeah. as a portable storage ssd is just fine |
| 09:39.36 | sixwheeledbeast^ | I like to shred things SSD dont like that |
| 09:40.17 | KotCzarny | um, trim? |
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| 09:40.32 | totalizator | ssds tend to shred themseves |
| 09:40.36 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 09:42.35 | sixwheeledbeast^ | I agree portable is better with no mechanical components to damage. |
| 09:42.53 | KotCzarny | lighter too |
| 09:43.14 | KotCzarny | and smaller if you happen to have msata/m.2 enclosure |
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| 09:49.09 | sixwheeledbeast^ | I suppose you could manually trim the drive instead of shred. |
| 09:49.50 | sixwheeledbeast^ | Otherwise data is there until your trim cycle, normally a cron job every week |
| 09:50.25 | KotCzarny | you shred automatically? |
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| 09:51.02 | sixwheeledbeast^ | some files from the cli |
| 09:51.04 | KotCzarny | also, since many ssds are encrypted internally now, destroying controller is enough |
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| 10:07.50 | jonwil | hi |
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| 10:09.11 | KotCzarny | hello |
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| 10:53.30 | Vajb | about n900 profiles. I usually want to keep my phone on silent profile, but at day time I like it to vibrate, but at night time this is not acceptable. Do we have a script to change this automagically? |
| 10:54.09 | jonwil | Anything interesting happening in the world of N900 lately? |
| 10:54.24 | KotCzarny | jonwil: most of the fun happens in #maemo-leste |
| 10:54.38 | jonwil | ok :) |
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| 11:46.54 | sunshavi | KotCzarny: Do You use mutt on the n900? |
| 11:47.23 | KotCzarny | nope, i only use web interface for mail |
| 11:47.42 | KotCzarny | both yahoo and gmail have legacy fallbacks |
| 11:47.59 | sixwheeledbeast^ | ~phonecontrol |
| 11:48.00 | infobot | rumour has it, phonecontrol is http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control |
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| 11:48.08 | sixwheeledbeast^ | ^ Vajb |
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| 11:49.12 | sunshavi | I am using mutt on n900 (for reading with mbsync aka isync). In the future I would try to compile msmtp for also writting email on the device |
| 11:57.48 | Vajb | sixwheeledbeast^: thx, I thought to ask if there is something ready to prevent iventing wheel, but I'll dig to it then. |
| 11:58.10 | sixwheeledbeast^ | oh no i doubt |
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| 12:24.06 | sixwheeledbeast^ | Vajb: Just use alarmd? |
| 12:24.35 | sixwheeledbeast^ | Alarmed |
| 12:25.39 | sixwheeledbeast^ | That's how i do most stuff like that |
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| 12:39.03 | Maxdamantus | Hm. I have an evil plan to continue using Opera Mobile with sites requiring newer versions of TLS. |
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| 12:40.41 | Maxdamantus | It seems to use SNI, so I should be able to make a MITM server that generates appropriate certificates on the fly, signed by my own CA certificate which can be added as a root. |
| 12:41.10 | Maxdamantus | and can probably just do something like override `connect` with LD_PRELOAD |
| 12:43.54 | Maxdamantus | and of course, the proxy server will do hostname validation, so there's no loss of security. |
| 12:45.29 | Maxdamantus | I guess this is what "mitmproxy" does, but that's written in Python, so would prefer not to run that on the N900. |
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| 13:25.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed alarmed comes with this function built in |
| 13:30.11 | sixwheeledbeast^ | Did anyone get QML browser working with TLS? I thought that was a thing, I need to try. |
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| 15:00.58 | sicelo | sunshavi: i do use mutt on N900. any reason for asking? |
| 15:14.49 | sunshavi | sicelo: Hi. Yeah. Do You send email with msmtp? |
| 15:18.29 | sicelo | i don't use msmtp. any advantages over using mutt's existing smtp 'client'? |
| 15:21.31 | sunshavi | less setup probably. support for multiple accounts also |
| 15:22.08 | sunshavi | mutt used just as MUA |
| 15:22.48 | sicelo | ymmv |
| 15:23.18 | sicelo | works fine for me to send and retrieve mail from Google & Outlook.com (where I use it) |
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| 15:26.43 | sunshavi | nice. Probably I am going to compile msmtp and transfer my setup as it is. then I would have isync as MDA mutt as MUA and msmtp MTA |
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| 17:39.04 | Vajb | hmm did someone patch pidgin-libnotify to fix vibra issue? Or is there a version which works with maemo? Newer than 14.2-3 |
| 17:56.56 | sixwheeledbeast^ | gidzzz did some pidgin stuff maybe search on tmo? |
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| 18:07.42 | Vajb | ok thx |
| 18:17.57 | Vajb | hmm it was facebook plugin |
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| 19:21.10 | Vajb | hmm it seems that telegram-purple doesn't support supergroups |
| 19:21.26 | Vajb | oh well I'll live |
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| 19:44.47 | sicelo | Vajb: i use telegram-cli now :) |
| 19:48.13 | Vajb | oh. Does it support supergroups? |
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| 20:08.54 | sicelo | what's a supergroup btw |
| 20:13.42 | Vajb | well I don't know exact definition, but it is a group that can have lots of members |
| 20:15.28 | Vajb | if I try to open it in pidgin I get message "71: rpc_call_fail: user_already_participant |
| 20:15.31 | Vajb | " |
| 20:15.50 | sicelo | if there's any free-access supergroup you know, i can test for you |
| 20:15.52 | Vajb | if I try to open it in pidgin I get message "71: rpc_call_fail 400: user_already_participant" |
| 20:16.29 | Vajb | I know only this one im using and it is not open :/ |
| 20:16.46 | sicelo | :-) |
| 20:16.57 | sicelo | russian spies? |
| 20:18.41 | sicelo | anyway, you can find the package on tmo and test for yourself. or, build it on pc |
| 20:19.06 | Vajb | yeah I did some digging of a topic |
| 20:20.52 | Vajb | I'll see what I do, but thx :) |
| 20:23.21 | sicelo | it's cli, so it has its limitations, but i never went back to pidgin since i got it. |
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