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| 01:09.57 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~lf (or ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher) sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 03:09.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>[2018-10-21 23:58:14] <Oksana> Screen on, no backlight: N900's display consumes +80mA http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Power_Consumption Does that include power consumption of touchscreen, or LCD screen only?<< good question, prolly touchscreen aka digitizer been not considered. Then OTOH it doesn't consume any noticeable energy afaik |
| 03:10.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | particularly R-TS doesn't consume any power in theory as long as no touch event |
| 03:12.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway I don't get how the power consumption is particularly relevant for evaluation if >>could it be replaced by an LCD projector with 85mW average power consumption<< |
| 03:13.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | nota bene, this is only the display part (light modulation) of a projector. You need the "backlight" too, for that projector probably a RGB laser source |
| 03:14.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | Oksana: ^^^ |
| 03:16.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | regarding VPN it's a system immanent problem that they get abused for spamming and thus get blacklisted. |
| 03:17.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | you can remove the VPN egress server's IP addr from BL every day and it gets re-added a few hours later |
| 03:18.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | the problem remains maemo who block VPN IPs (among others) for mere *reading* of website, which is a stupid thing to do regarding the purpose of those blacklists which is stop SPAM *getting posted* |
| 03:20.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | so the correct thing would be to block log-in of blacklisted IPs. I.E. test the IP of user only on the login page |
| 03:22.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | make the "keep me logged in" cookie depend on IP and re-evaluate IP when it changes. Delete session cookie when the new IP is on blacklist, otherwise rewrite the cookie to accept the new IP and have user authenticated/logged-in so they can post |
| 03:23.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | for READING maemo site, no blacklist whatsoever should block any user from doing so |
| 03:25.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | sparre: Oksana: @council: ^^^ |
| 03:26.40 | sparre | DocScrutinizer05: Agreed. |
| 03:30.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | aiui the complication in maemo infra is: the RBL filtering function is done on our FireWalls that are not linked to the (talk|wiki|whatever) services servers, so first approach the firewall has no idea if a user is trying to log in or just wants to read tmo, wiki ... |
| 03:35.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | the infra needs to learn: services (talk.m.o) check RBLs locally during login. If some sort of attack is detected by a service server, the service server could send a "please protect me from this!" request to the FW, setting the particular connection on a local ephemeral blacklist on firewall, much like fail2ban does |
| 03:37.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually fail2ban comes with pretty much all we need, just needs to get distributed over service and firewall servers |
| 03:38.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | really no big thing. No idea however what it takes to teach the forum software to run the RBL check on login |
| 03:45.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah, the firewall of course needs to know if an inbound packet tries to write... |
| 03:51.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly nothing DPI can't do, if we hadn't HTTPS encryption that forbids the firewall to know what payload a packet has. So it remains a duty of the service server's (forum...) software to check RBL vs IP on *every* write action. Still not as much trouble as it may sound, since the software already needs to do other checks in every single case that matters here: user's state of log-in |
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| 04:09.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | HMMMM >>Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8<< |
| 04:11.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | vs https://www.vbulletin.com/ |
| 04:12.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess it's about time to get a 209.- bucks upgrade https://www.vbulletin.com/en/features/ |
| 04:17.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.vbulletin.com/en/upgrade/ >>Works with vBulletin 3.6.x+ and all versions of vBulletin 4<< |
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| 04:58.03 | Juesto | wow hey |
| 05:08.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | wow hey? |
| 05:08.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | Juesto: please elaborate |
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| 16:58.07 | Juesto | DocScrutinizer05: i fell asleep. and i was kind of saying hi xd |
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| 23:43.00 | brolin_empey | Wow, apparently even the bmw.de Web site uses Letâs Encrypt. |