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| 10:16.58 | sicelo | i don't use 2-factor authentication for any of my accounts :-/ |
| 10:18.25 | sicelo | but i want to. however i do not want to use SMS. i only have an N900. |
| 10:19.45 | sicelo | any ideas on solutions/applications/etc. |
| 10:22.54 | bencoh | sicelo: what are you talking about? |
| 10:23.11 | bencoh | (I'd guess gmail, but ...?) |
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| 10:26.43 | sicelo | yes. seemingly some of the support authenticator apps instead of sms |
| 10:27.13 | bencoh | I use gmail with mutt, you can add a password per application |
| 10:27.29 | bencoh | and use it exclusively with the specified application |
| 10:34.11 | sicelo | thanks bencoh. i will try that for gmail. will check if something similar is available for the others (facebook, github, twitter, etc.) |
| 10:48.54 | Maxdamantus | If by "authenticator" you mean the time-based OTP authentication used by "Google authenticator", I just run a Java implementation of that on my computer. |
| 10:49.10 | Maxdamantus | that will surely also run fine on N900. |
| 10:51.12 | Maxdamantus | http://blog.jcuff.net/2011/02/cli-java-based-google-authenticator.html |
| 10:52.04 | Maxdamantus | Yeah, it seems to just be a Main class for use with the code Google uses in their Android application. |
| 10:59.21 | sicelo | nice. |
| 10:59.43 | sicelo | i had been looking at oath-toolkit. no idea if that would do |
| 11:00.09 | Maxdamantus | oauth*? That's quite a bit different to authenticator. |
| 11:00.44 | Maxdamantus | though maybe some systems let you pick and choose which authentication mechanisms can be used, dunno. |
| 11:01.41 | sicelo | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:01.45 | Maxdamantus | I've been wanting to use OAuth (and hence SMS 2FA) for mutt/gmail, but haven't got round to looking enough into it. |
| 11:02.00 | Maxdamantus | afaik, I'd probably have to just hack mutt. |
| 11:02.24 | Maxdamantus | Oh, okay, not OAuth then. |
| 11:22.18 | sicelo | bencoh: per app password seem to need my phone number after all. or i am missing something? |
| 11:23.17 | Maxdamantus | sicelo: are you sure it's not just to get the password the first time? |
| 11:24.26 | sicelo | i guess yes, that. had been wishing/hoping for something to not use phone number ever :) |
| 11:24.33 | sicelo | but yeah, does look like i am dreaming |
| 11:31.20 | bencoh | sicelo: err, could be, yeah |
| 11:31.41 | bencoh | but that's just to register iirc |
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| 11:38.21 | sicelo | looks like oath-toolkit is also the right tool for 2FA needs. wonder if it will compile for n900 |
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| 22:42.25 | sicelo | back to my earlier questions about 2FA, looks like there already is an OTP tool for N900 |
| 22:42.29 | sicelo | http://maemo.org/packages/view/otp/ |
| 22:42.47 | sicelo | no idea how well it works (or how secure it is) |
| 22:53.26 | buZz | TOTP i assume? |
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| 22:53.44 | buZz | ah yes |
| 22:54.10 | buZz | there is oathtool aswell, at least in debian |
| 22:54.36 | buZz | RFC 6238 TOTP is what 'google authenticator' uses |
| 22:54.56 | buZz | you can just copy the seeds out of it , feed them to oathtool and get a key to use on websites for 2FA |
| 22:55.27 | sicelo | yes, i have seen oathtool, and one of the days i should try compile it for maemo through sb |
| 22:55.51 | sicelo | i don't have google authenticator anywhere. |
| 22:55.52 | buZz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:56.19 | buZz | it gives you a QR code to scan usually, the code from that is what you'd use to make a new key each time |
| 22:56.28 | sicelo | and 'top' n900 doesn't seem to be working. well ... at least facebook says codes are invalid |
| 22:56.51 | buZz | maybe you need to set it to TOTP instead of HOTP? |
| 22:57.08 | buZz | its not default on oathtool either |
| 22:58.02 | sicelo | it only allows switching between HOTP & MOTP, and with HOTP, you can switch between 'time-based' (which i assume is TOTP) and 'event-based' |
| 22:59.20 | buZz | weird, if you have a debian box available somewhere you can test oathtool there |
| 22:59.34 | buZz | apt install oathtool |
| 22:59.35 | buZz | :) |
| 23:00.02 | sicelo | yes, left my laptop at work. already installed oathtool on it .. just need to put it to use |
| 23:00.22 | sicelo | i hope it will build nicely for maemo as well |
| 23:00.35 | buZz | quite sure, i doubt it has much dependancies |
| 23:01.34 | sicelo | maybe i should already look in older debian repos .. a few packages work ok from there on maemo |
| 23:25.54 | Oksanaa | >> <Maxdamantus> Optimally, all RAM should be used, for cache if nothing else. << With Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit, if Task Manager shows high RAM usage (like, 13GB out of 16GB), it means "ultra-slow computer, restart some of those programs". But then, this slowness may also coincide with high (like, |
| 23:26.51 | Oksanaa | 1725914275) "Page Faults" (whatever they are) for processes. |
| 23:28.54 | sicelo | (oathtool - at least all the ones on debian repos need higher libc6 than maemos ..) |