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| 06:52.08 | KotCzarny | hmm, is there a way to make linux automatically move swapped pages from higher priority (ie. zswap) to lower priority (sdcard) depending on their age/last used/etc ? |
| 07:18.12 | bencoh | KotCzarny: could be with latest kernels |
| 07:18.23 | KotCzarny | bencoh: where to look for? |
| 07:18.30 | bencoh | mainline that is, unless it wasn't merged, but I kind recall reading something about that |
| 07:18.44 | KotCzarny | it would be also useful for my old laptop |
| 07:19.40 | bencoh | bswap/zram or stuff like that I'd say |
| 07:20.08 | bencoh | err, not bswap |
| 07:20.27 | bencoh | zswap |
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| 07:22.45 | bencoh | yeah I was referring to zswap (different from zram) |
| 07:29.41 | KotCzarny | well, what i'm looking at is not backing store though of zswap but swap subsystem moving pages from one swap device to another |
| 07:30.02 | KotCzarny | instead of using lower priority one when higher prio is full |
| 07:32.00 | bencoh | KotCzarny: then I dunno/doubt it, maybe have a look at how they do swap with ssd and whether they implemented that kind of mechanism |
| 07:32.12 | bencoh | although in your case I think you'd benefit more from zswap |
| 07:33.15 | Wizzup | maybe you can set up swap on bcache |
| 07:33.17 | Wizzup | :D |
| 07:34.10 | bencoh | yeah, bcache :) |
| 07:35.52 | KotCzarny | googles |
| 07:36.09 | bencoh | bcache probably won't help you either here tbh |
| 07:36.27 | bencoh | well, it might, but ... |
| 07:36.31 | KotCzarny | yeah, it doesnt free the pages |
| 07:36.33 | Wizzup | actually it probablh will, if you make a large set of small swap files |
| 07:36.50 | bencoh | hm? |
| 07:36.55 | Wizzup | you said you wanted to swap pages from one device to another |
| 07:37.03 | Wizzup | bcache will do that based on some LRU I hope |
| 07:37.19 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 07:37.52 | Wizzup | alt. maybe dm-cache? not sure if it satisfies your needs |
| 07:37.57 | KotCzarny | i'm not seeing bcache into situation with swap in zram |
| 07:39.16 | Wizzup | say you have /dev/fast-disk and /dev/fast-slow-disk, you could have bcache use both and them have swap on top of that? |
| 07:40.22 | Wizzup | bbiab |
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| 07:41.51 | KotCzarny | 2 swaps: 1 in zram and 1 in mmcblk |
| 07:42.30 | KotCzarny | ideally pages should be moved out of zram when unused for long |
| 07:42.38 | KotCzarny | onto mmcblk one |
| 07:43.09 | KotCzarny | that way memleaks would be stored in slow device and more ram available for paging |
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| 15:39.44 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: ping |
| 15:40.17 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: do you know what "ccc", "npc" and "hwc" certificates are used for? |
| 15:43.36 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: ^^^ |
| 15:43.46 | freemangordon | seems you know a bit about that |
| 15:43.53 | KotCzarny | i recall that cert question |
| 15:43.59 | KotCzarny | have you checked the channel logs? |
| 15:44.11 | freemangordon | yes |
| 15:44.12 | freemangordon | https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2016-12-17.log.html#t2016-12-17T17:59:15 |
| 15:45.04 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: but still, I have no idea what are those used for |
| 15:45.05 | KotCzarny | nah, i'm just quite good with google (sometimes) |
| 15:46.01 | freemangordon | hmm http://mobilegsm.16mb.com/reb_bb5_cpu.html |
| 15:46.37 | KotCzarny | seems you have that problem since at least 2014 |
| 15:46.44 | freemangordon | and "ccc" seems to be Common Configuration Certificate |
| 15:47.36 | KotCzarny | https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/%23maemo-ssu.2013-10-13.log.html#t2013-10-13T15:38:43 |
| 15:47.41 | KotCzarny | or even 2013 |
| 15:48.35 | KotCzarny | certificate npc appears to contain GSM IMEI, bluetooth MAC and wlan MAC |
| 15:48.42 | bencoh | :) |
| 15:49.13 | freemangordon | Wizzup: ^^^ |
| 15:49.28 | KotCzarny | seems jonwil might be most knowledgeable |
| 15:49.31 | KotCzarny | see the last link |
| 15:49.42 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: but what kind if cert is that, containg device specific data?!? |
| 15:50.23 | KotCzarny | similar to gpg signed email? |
| 15:50.34 | KotCzarny | to know it is legit |
| 15:50.52 | freemangordon | hmm, seems I've asked the same question back in 2013 :D |
| 15:51.42 | bencoh | yeah :D |
| 15:51.55 | freemangordon | ok, still, the coversation was useful |
| 15:51.56 | bencoh | means you're pretty consistent |
| 15:52.13 | KotCzarny | you should take notes |
| 15:52.15 | freemangordon | Am I not? :) |
| 15:52.16 | KotCzarny | and put on some wiki |
| 15:52.19 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 15:52.28 | freemangordon | no, I'll just finish REing libsysinfo |
| 15:53.25 | bencoh | for some people, REing is just easier that writing documentation ;) |
| 15:53.34 | bencoh | (I'm not one of them unfortunately) |
| 15:54.32 | KotCzarny | yeah, coding > writing docs |
| 15:54.37 | KotCzarny | although both are important |
| 15:55.56 | KotCzarny | hmm, there is something called libcal |
| 15:56.54 | KotCzarny | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4874 |
| 15:57.50 | KotCzarny | and apparently its open sourced |
| 15:58.30 | Wizzup | pretty sure that's already packaged and built even on leste |
| 15:58.32 | KotCzarny | and interesting bits moved to closed libsysinfo, lol |
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| 16:06.14 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: yes, and this is what I am REing ATM |
| 16:06.20 | KotCzarny | figured |
| 16:06.40 | freemangordon | but I'll stop, as we'll try to live without it |
| 16:07.04 | KotCzarny | try asking jonwil |
| 16:07.18 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: why not join #maemo-leste? not interested in it? |
| 16:07.27 | freemangordon | sure will do |
| 16:07.32 | KotCzarny | i dont have autorejoin set |
| 16:07.35 | freemangordon | ah |
| 16:07.41 | freemangordon | then set it :p |
| 16:07.50 | KotCzarny | so i have to rejoin manually after i reboot my box |
| 16:08.04 | KotCzarny | sometimes i forgot channel or two |
| 16:08.37 | freemangordon | it is just that it's better to keep info in one place and also more people to read it |
| 16:08.52 | freemangordon | to remind me in few years :D |
| 16:08.57 | bencoh | haha |
| 16:24.20 | bencoh | hmm, I never heard of Sidekick 4g before |
| 16:24.31 | bencoh | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_Hiptop#T-Mobile_Sidekick_4G_(Android/Samsung) |
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