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15:24.13pirlahello everyone
15:24.43pirlajust got a nokia n900 to try, how can I install debian (with no maemo) on it?
15:25.14KotCzarnyat this point you might as well go for maemo-leste
15:25.22pirlawhat's that?
15:25.34KotCzarnydevuan for n900
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15:25.46pirlayes, how can i install it?
15:26.20KotCzarnyrecent kernel etc, obviously not fully functional as a phone/pda yet
15:26.52KotCzarnythere was an img floating
15:27.13KotCzarnyhttps://leste.maemo.org/Nokia_N900
15:27.58pirlathx, checking out
15:30.19pirlaI see I need flasher, which isn't around from some time
15:30.28KotCzarnyit is
15:30.51KotCzarnyeither 0xffff and flasher-3.5 is freely available
15:32.19pirlawhere?
15:32.34KotCzarny0xffff is open source project
15:32.48KotCzarnyand old nokia binary is probably somewhere around:
15:32.49KotCzarny~flasher
15:32.50infobotrefer ~flashing; http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz.   HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz; list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/
15:37.50pirlaThanks again, I downloaded it
15:38.08pirlanow, I see I have to type a dd command, what's the correct syntax?
15:38.21KotCzarnyread the page i've linked
15:38.29KotCzarnythere are descriptions/instructions
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15:39.29pirlaI can't find instructions
15:39.34Juestoman dd
15:39.49KotCzarnyahm
15:39.51KotCzarnyok
15:40.29KotCzarnyxz -dc file.img.xz | dd bs=1M >/dev/yourmmcdevice
15:40.46pirlaI tried dd maemo-whatever /path to sd/
15:41.04KotCzarnyno, path to sd is filesystem
15:41.11KotCzarnyyou need to write to block device
15:41.30pirlasorry, can't understand
15:41.52Juestook, you seem to need a gnu/linux lessons before
15:41.53pirlaoh I see
15:41.56KotCzarnyexample, /dev/sdj might be block device
15:42.01pirlaI need to put there the /dev
15:42.13Juestoyou need to know what's your target file
15:42.23KotCzarnybut if you mount /dev/sdj4 /some/path it will mount filesystem from 4th partition of sdj at given path
15:42.27Juestodd needs if= and of=
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15:42.51KotCzarnyand since you are new to this, better watch out, you can wipe some other drive if you dont know what you are doing
15:43.17KotCzarny<PROTECTED>
15:43.31KotCzarnyyou have to know what you are going to overwrite before you do it
15:44.00KotCzarnyjuesto: wrong
15:44.26JuestoAnd i suggest going with a computer and such, n900 gui is kind of best for the device especially when you dont know about technical stuff
15:44.44JuestoKotCzarny: Depends on dd version
15:44.50pirlayes, I know thanks. I just can't really understand how dd works
15:44.51KotCzarnyno. any version.
15:44.56Juesto:/
15:45.04Juestoagain, see man dd
15:45.15KotCzarnyin the line i've written above specifying if= would be wrong
15:45.23KotCzarnyunless you would use if=/dev/stdin
15:47.35Juestoah ok
15:47.38Juestobut of= is correct :p
15:47.50KotCzarnyits optional
15:47.53Juestohm
15:48.03Juestoagain, depends on version, sort of
15:48.08KotCzarnyagain, wrong
15:48.13Juestoit doesnt really accept just "filename"
15:48.38KotCzarnyin this example it writes to /dev/stdout which is redirected to /dev/yourmmcdevice
15:49.08Juestoi see, thanks
15:51.41pirlaSo, I just dd-ed the img on the sd
15:56.39pirlanow what?
15:56.49KotCzarnysee the forum link from that page
15:56.59KotCzarnydd the image to an sd card. Then boot from the sd card using either 0xFFFF/flasher-3.5 or u-boot/bootmenu: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81613
15:57.19KotCzarnyor read how to boot using flasher booting mode
15:57.31pirlahow do I boot from sd? do I need to do this on phone or on pc?
15:58.00KotCzarnydepends, do you have uboot/bootmenu currently?
15:58.26KotCzarnyif not, i guess you can just take kernel+ramdisk and boot with flasher in one-time mode
15:58.30pirlano, but I saw there's another bootloader in
15:58.40pirlagive me just 2 minutes
15:58.41KotCzarnyyou will also need proper linux cmdline i guess
15:58.57pirlayes, I'm on stretch
16:00.14pirlaI have nitdroid bootloader
16:00.47KotCzarnyi guess you would have to read how to add another kernel+ramdisk+params combo to it
16:01.12pirlareally? I just want Debian, nothing more
16:01.38KotCzarnythen if you have pc available, just boot it via flasher
16:01.51pirlahow?
16:02.02Juestoit says in the instructions....
16:02.25pirlaif I try to launch flasher I get a non-existent file/folder error
16:02.55KotCzarnyyou need proper params, running things blindly wouldnt help
16:03.32pirlado I really need a phd to run debian on my phone?
16:03.47KotCzarnyno, but you should know what you are doing
16:03.57pirlaalmost, 50-50
16:04.17Juesto50-50 is not enough
16:04.18pirlaI just can't understand how to "boot from flasher"
16:04.23JuestoRead
16:04.40KotCzarnyhttps://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/rescueOS-1.2/documentation.txt
16:04.48KotCzarnyit's an example from rescueos
16:05.01KotCzarnyyou can see params there, which will be different in your case
16:05.22Juestois there a official documentation or manpage for it?
16:05.24KotCzarnyroot will be probably /dev/mmcblk0 or something
16:05.51KotCzarnyand kernel/ramdisk filenames you have to extract to your pc from that img or tar
16:06.08KotCzarnys/filenames/files
16:08.22pirlaI can't understand what are you saying
16:08.34pirlawhat does "boot from flasher" mean?
16:08.43pirlaI have to connect my phone to pc?
16:08.47KotCzarnyyes
16:08.50pirlaok
16:09.00pirlaDo I need to press u?
16:09.29KotCzarnyi suspect the usual flasher instruction applies. although important change is adding -b param to boot instead of flashing
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16:20.12pirlaexcuse me, why can't I execute flasher? it exits with a "non existent file/folder" error
16:20.32KotCzarnypaste the error message
16:20.45pirlaroot@DESKTOP-K6M1K7O:~/Scaricati/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2# ./flasher-3.5 --help bash: ./flasher-3.5: File o directory non esistente
16:20.49Juestopirla: make sure you're writing the correct commandline
16:21.03JuestoBecause the file is not in there
16:21.11KotCzarnymaybe you need 32bit compatibility libs
16:21.16Juestoif its there then you need to run bash ./flasher-3.5
16:21.18pirlayes, you're right
16:21.23pirlaI need 32 bit lib
16:21.30Juestodid you try chmod +x to the file?
16:21.44pirlayes
16:21.51Juestostill doesnt run?
16:21.52Juestohm
16:22.39pirlaI'm on a 64 bit Debian Stretch
16:22.58KotCzarnyyou will probably have to install libusb0-32bit or something
16:23.21pirlabetter: I did an apt-get install 0xffff
16:23.33KotCzarnythat should be better option, yes
16:24.00pirlaOk, so when running I get a nothing to do
16:24.40KotCzarnyparams?
16:25.01pirlaI'm checking what could I need from the -help
16:38.59pirlaSummary: I have the phone in upload mode, I also have the usb icon on the topright
16:39.19pirlanow, what should I type in order to flash my image?
16:39.41pirlaI have leste flashed to the sd
16:40.09KotCzarnydid you extract kernel, ramdisk from the sdcard?
16:40.22pirlaDon't know, I did a dd
16:40.42KotCzarnyyes, to write sdcard, but to boot from pc you should copy them out
16:40.50pirlapc?
16:42.15KotCzarnywhere do you run the flasher?
16:42.24pirlaon pc
16:43.23pirlaok, so I'm redownloading the image
16:43.28KotCzarnywhat for?
16:43.35KotCzarnyjust eject the card and put into pc
16:43.45pirlaI erased it because I didn't knew it was required again
16:44.51pirlaok, getting everything from sd
16:46.16pirlauimage and zimage
16:53.08pirlaOk, now I have a folder named debian in my home, I have to launch 0xffff
16:53.13pirlawhat should I type?
16:53.27pirlaI copyed everything from sd
16:58.46pirlaHere's the output of -I:
16:59.08pirlaroot@DESKTOP-K6M1K7O:~/debian# 0xFFFF -I 0xFFFF v0.7  // Open Free Fiasco Firmware Flasher  Not a local device  Waiting for USB device...   Found USB device: SU-18/RX-44/RX-48/RX-51/RM-680/RM-696 (0x421:0x105) in NOLO mode USB device product string: Nokia N900 (Update mode) USB device serial number string: MUM415144 Detected USB device: RX-51              Initializing NOLO... Device: RX-51 HW revision: 2101 NOLO version: 1.4.14 Kernel v
17:00.15pirlaInitfs version: (not detected) Software release version: RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_MR0 Content eMMC version: RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA Root device: flash USB host mode: disabled R&D mode: disabled
17:07.02pirlaplease
17:08.29pirlaanyone?
17:10.28KotCzarnyhttps://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1540874&postcount=7
17:10.30KotCzarnymaybe this one
17:13.34pirlaYes, thanks! Works
17:13.37pirlaWow!
17:13.53pirlaCan't wait to give this a ride. Thank you everyone.
17:13.55pirlabye
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18:44.01pirlaHello everyone
18:45.31pirlaNow what?
18:45.32pirlaI have a leste system running on my N900 Nokia
18:46.03pirlaI only have settings, x terminal and tana_ap_user
18:46.05pirlaas apps
18:47.33KotCzarnyyou have terminal, you have working x, what do you need more?
18:47.53pirlaapps?
18:48.33KotCzarnyapt-get install ?
18:48.46pirlaYes, but I don't have networking wifi
18:49.47KotCzarnywpa_supplicant + dhclient/dhcpcd ?
18:50.24pirlaYes, but with which network?
18:50.43pirlaI can't physically connect my phone to wifi
18:50.58KotCzarnyare you really asking me what wireless ssid you have?
18:51.07pirlano
18:51.25pirlamy net hw is not working on my phone
18:51.59KotCzarnyyou mean you dont have 2.4ghz or something else is the problem?
18:52.09pirlait's like the driver is missing
18:53.35KotCzarnywireless should work
18:55.01pirlatried issuing wpa-supplicant and wpa_supplicant, both don't exist
18:55.18KotCzarnyhmm, maybe it's added later, image is from april
18:56.02KotCzarnywizzup: ping
18:56.03pirlaBut is it ok I just have settings and terminal, with nothing else?
18:56.14KotCzarnyyeah, it's pre-alpha state
18:57.11pirlaNevermind, sudo was needed. Know from #maemo-leste
18:57.21pirlaI'm gonna be there now
19:00.02WizzupKotCzarny: pong
19:00.17WizzupI replied
19:00.35KotCzarnyyeah, thanks for that
19:01.37Wizzuphe quit though
19:04.08KotCzarnynew kids dont know how to use irc
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20:08.47siceloanniversary. i bought my N900 on this day in 2011 :)
20:11.36KotCzarny:)
20:11.44KotCzarnyi dont remember exact date of mine
20:13.07siceloi had lusted after if for months
20:14.03sicelos/if/it/
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20:40.27KotCzarnybencoh: hmm, mirrors.muarf.org (78.192.65.63) seems to be down
20:42.14JuestoWizzup: wow, how mean. he was here before as you can see....
21:01.28bencohKotCzarny: the "official" one is maemo.muarf.org
21:01.34bencohbut yeah I know :(
21:03.15KotCzarnyi must fix my sources.list then, hrm
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