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| 00:09.02 | CatButts | jesus, the low-battery alarm is scary |
| 00:09.26 | CatButts | especially when it's 2 am and you are trying to sleep :p |
| 00:09.41 | KotCzarny | what low battery alarm? |
| 00:09.59 | CatButts | the default one from n900 |
| 00:10.08 | KotCzarny | never heard it |
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| 01:50.42 | Oksana | Never heard it. Granted, I like to put computers on silent... |
| 01:56.16 | Juesto | :) |
| 01:56.23 | Juesto | hi Oksana |
| 02:07.10 | Juesto | sighs |
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| 05:22.37 | Vajb | if you were to avoid double booking would you focus on mysql constraint or java gui to accomblish this? (KotCzarny, yes it is a school project ;)) |
| 05:23.05 | Vajb | hmm is it accomplish? |
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| 05:45.21 | sicelo | wow Oksana! |
| 05:47.23 | sicelo | loves the sound when connecting a charger |
| 05:57.48 | KotCzarny | vajb: whats 'double booking' |
| 06:09.31 | Juesto | lol |
| 06:20.39 | Maxdamantus | wonders what sound it's meant to make. |
| 06:21.10 | Maxdamantus | maybe it doesn't have it on my system because I got it to stop showing the dialogue when plugging it in. |
| 06:21.17 | Maxdamantus | can't remember how he did that. |
| 06:22.39 | KotCzarny | hmm, it probably gets enabled with 'system sounds' |
| 06:22.54 | KotCzarny | hates phones beeping and twinking on touch |
| 06:24.15 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: actually Wizzup's idea sounds good :). Someone to integrate lima with leste would be of great help, for example. |
| 06:24.27 | Maxdamantus | I'm not a fan of random sounds when using UIs, though I like touch vibration. |
| 06:25.32 | KotCzarny | fmg: isnt it done already? also, i suspect it would require separate repo for that, i think mali blob doesnt have open copyright |
| 06:25.56 | freemangordon | why separate repo? |
| 06:26.21 | KotCzarny | devuan doesnt have strict legal requirements? |
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| 06:28.21 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: I am not sure I get what you mean, however, leste repos are not hosted to devuan infra, but on maemo infra |
| 06:28.28 | freemangordon | *hosted on |
| 06:28.45 | freemangordon | also, mali blobs are on github |
| 06:29.05 | KotCzarny | ahm, havent checked in a long time |
| 06:29.42 | freemangordon | BTW, does lima require blobs? |
| 06:30.10 | freemangordon | I was under impression it is a proper drm driver |
| 06:30.19 | freemangordon | with 3d support built-in |
| 06:30.23 | KotCzarny | if you talk about yuq's work, it's not entirely usable yet |
| 06:30.43 | freemangordon | they posted a patch on lkml a few days ago |
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| 06:31.30 | freemangordon | yes, I know it might be not fully usable, but wvantually it will become |
| 06:31.44 | freemangordon | *eventually |
| 06:31.52 | KotCzarny | yes, i hope for that too |
| 06:32.26 | freemangordon | in the meanwhile we can at least check how "not ready" it is, by trying to run h-d on top :) |
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| 06:33.40 | freemangordon | TBH I think it will work as h-d doesn;t use that much of fancy GL stuff, besides some basic shaders and operations |
| 06:35.04 | freemangordon | also I hope that seeing us trying to use that driver will give its authors additional reasoning to not give up |
| 06:35.25 | KotCzarny | i'm still wondering about yuq's motivation |
| 06:35.51 | KotCzarny | he came out of the blue with his work |
| 06:35.52 | freemangordon | however, ATM neither me nor Wizzup have the time needed to spend on sunxi kernel/lima driver |
| 06:35.59 | KotCzarny | and it might even be against his amd work |
| 06:36.23 | freemangordon | no idea |
| 06:36.41 | freemangordon | but I think his work is based on older work don by some other guy |
| 06:37.18 | freemangordon | s/older/previous |
| 06:37.33 | freemangordon | sorry, still having my first coffee for the day :) |
| 06:39.02 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 07:48.41 | Juesto | huh |
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| 08:41.43 | Wizzup | KotCzarny: sorry that I left after my first remark, I was tired and wanted to think about what I was going to say ;) |
| 08:42.35 | Wizzup | KotCzarny: basically it'd be nice to have someone work a bit on our sunxi port - so that'd be testing on a few sunxi devices, checking that the basic stuff works. mali and/or lima support would be very welcome (olimex olinuxino a20 with llvmpipe is a real pain for basically anything) |
| 08:43.09 | Wizzup | KotCzarny: I also have quite a bunch of sunxi devices but I want to spend my time on writing sw that runs on all the devices we 'support'. Maybe you also have some clues as to nice/cool/useful devices. I have an a33 tablet somewhere. |
| 08:43.29 | Wizzup | But practically, I think it'd be some kernel stuff, testing kernels/images/drivers, and write some stuff on the wiki :) |
| 08:43.55 | Wizzup | KotCzarny: fwiw #maemo-leste exists, it might be good to take it there at some point if you're (somewhat) interested |
| 08:43.59 | KotCzarny | i have only a31 and a13 devices (regarding display featuring ones) |
| 08:44.12 | KotCzarny | but i could work on a20/h3 too |
| 08:44.27 | KotCzarny | since they could be easily supplemented with touchscreens |
| 08:44.58 | Wizzup | I also have a lime2 with two different olimex touchscreens, the 4.3" and 7" ones |
| 08:45.17 | Wizzup | I just haven't found the time to make them work (well really, work again, I had the 4.3" one working at some point) |
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| 08:50.43 | KotCzarny | saved to TODO |
| 08:52.51 | Wizzup | KotCzarny: ack, if you can join the channel that might also serve as a useful reminder ;) |
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| 10:00.46 | sicelo | KotCzarny: The old CHIP seems to have A13 & Mali-400. do you think it would be worth something trying leste on it? or waste of time :) |
| 10:01.14 | KotCzarny | sure, n900 has much slower cpu, so leste should work |
| 10:01.55 | sicelo | i wonder how much of its hardware is mainlined (CHIP) |
| 10:02.00 | KotCzarny | a lot |
| 10:02.17 | KotCzarny | as usual: http://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort#Status_Matrix |
| 10:03.02 | KotCzarny | in fact c.h.i.p. could make pretty awesome leste showcase |
| 10:04.44 | sicelo | mmm, i should dust mine off then. have two, but never really got time to use them |
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| 10:06.26 | sicelo | and the mali 400 seems to be targetted in yuq's work, unless i don't follow correctly |
| 10:07.16 | KotCzarny | yes |
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| 11:43.26 | Vajb | KotCzarny: it is project to make mysql database with java gui for fictional company renting holiday cabins. So i wanted something to avoid double booking |
| 11:43.40 | Vajb | but it works nowas intended |
| 11:44.03 | Vajb | took four hours to figure out how i can make it happen |
| 11:44.38 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 11:45.15 | Vajb | so i was searching for hint of where to look at |
| 11:45.49 | Vajb | since i had no idea in which level it would be most effective |
| 11:46.09 | KotCzarny | well, you would have to implement some session or reservation system |
| 11:46.21 | Vajb | but as of now gui shows list of cabins which are available in the day span that user wants to |
| 11:47.28 | Vajb | probably not wise solution since now it has to make three separate database queries when days and location are selected |
| 11:48.10 | Vajb | nut school is only evaluating things which work, not how they work |
| 11:48.15 | Vajb | but* |
| 11:51.24 | KotCzarny | work 100% correct first, optimize later |
| 11:52.56 | Vajb | it is about there :) |
| 11:53.14 | Vajb | expecting 5 for a grade ;) |
| 11:53.36 | Vajb | (on a scale 0-5) |
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| 21:08.21 | freemangordon | Juesto: yes, gdb |
| 21:10.49 | Juesto | ah right |
| 21:10.56 | Juesto | and for j2me apps! |
| 21:10.58 | Juesto | ? |
| 21:11.47 | freemangordon | no idea |
| 21:12.19 | Juesto | oh well |
| 21:12.52 | Juesto | freemangordon: you're the leste leader right? |
| 21:13.51 | KotCzarny | lol |
| 21:15.27 | freemangordon | I wouldn't say |
| 21:18.02 | freemangordon | as I am not really sure what a "leader" would mean in the context of leste project |
| 21:21.05 | KotCzarny | fmg, maybe analogue of 'senior project manager' |
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| 21:47.38 | Juesto | freemangordon: may i pm you? |
| 21:49.02 | Juesto | Maybe better tomorrow |
| 21:49.07 | Juesto | and earlier |
| 21:55.54 | Wizzup | KotCzarny: CTO ;) |
| 21:57.05 | KotCzarny | balmer-of-maemo (bom) |
| 21:57.06 | KotCzarny | ;) |
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| 22:07.26 | KotCzarny | spaghetti code is weaved |
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