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| 04:53.19 | Oksanaa | installed Facebook Services, sharing-service-facebook appears to work, while the widget gives "Invalid email/password combination" even though I am sure I have provided them correctly, without misprints |
| 04:55.24 | Oksanaa | is annoyed with modern communications: Discord on one side, Slack and Facebook on another... At least, it's possible to use public BitlBee gateway for Discord. Slack's IRC gateway is disabled. And Facebook doesn't have an IRC gateway, does it?.. Hmm, here is the thought: connect to Facebook via |
| 04:55.34 | Vajb | Oksanaa: some said that it is because of sms identification, but i never got it to connect when i tried. Always that same error. |
| 04:56.45 | Vajb | favebook messaging was kind of convenient when they had their xmms working |
| 04:56.47 | Oksanaa | BitlBee IRC gateway. |
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| 05:01.05 | Oksanaa | They used to have XMPP gateway?.. Slack's XMPP gateway is said to be worse than Slack's IRC gateway, so if anything, I am more inclined to get Slack Workspace Owner to enable IRC gateway. |
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| 05:03.20 | Oksanaa | added Facebook account to BitlBee, now should make sense of groupchats... I don't think we have one already, we just have one team member who asked me to add him on Facebook. I could try to make a group chat consisting of two users: me and him. And wait for third team member to respond to emails, |
| 05:03.20 | Oksanaa | and somehow get fourth team member's email. |
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| 08:40.55 | brolin_empey | Oksanaa: There is a libpurple plug-in for Facebook Chat/Messenger. |
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| 08:44.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | Wizzup: seems TI doesn't even publish the OMAP5 TRMs? |
| 08:44.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | or I failed to spot them in that "mess" |
| 08:47.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | I only found a http://www.ti.com/general/docs/lit/getliterature.tsp?genericPartNumber=AM5728&fileType=pdf elecmech TRM, and this collection http://www.ti.com/product/AM5728/technicaldocuments - no 5000p TRM though. Do I miss something here? |
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| 08:48.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | iMX.8 also seems to have no TRMs (yet?) |
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| 09:19.49 | Vajb | brolin_empey: last i tried that facebook plugin didn't work |
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| 09:39.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | why the fsck doesn't http://www.ti.com/product/AM5728/description load on my FF? |
| 09:39.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.ti.com/product/AM5728/toolssoftware does |
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| 11:15.18 | sicelo | Oksanaa: sharing widget hasn't worked for a while, and prolly won't ever, since Facebook blocked the devs' accounts[6~ |
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| 15:10.03 | bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: TI dropped most of the omap material |
| 15:10.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | suckers |
| 15:10.22 | bencoh | apart from a few chips |
| 15:10.27 | bencoh | definitely yeah |
| 15:10.32 | bencoh | silly move |
| 15:10.46 | bencoh | as for imx8, I don't think RM are public yet |
| 15:11.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | for 5 they are, for 8 not |
| 15:11.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | 6 |
| 15:11.05 | bencoh | might be available for download if you have an account though |
| 15:11.24 | bencoh | yeah, 6/7 have been public for a long time now |
| 15:11.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 15:11.37 | bencoh | 8 is barely released |
| 15:11.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | a massive >5k pages |
| 15:11.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | usual size for a TRM |
| 15:12.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, "PRERELEASE" |
| 15:12.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | or PREPRODUCTION or somesuch |
| 15:12.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | bencoh: i'm searching for the best SoC right now |
| 15:13.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | omly selection restriction: as Open as possible |
| 15:13.28 | bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: depends on the application |
| 15:13.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | do I guess that rules out all snapdragon stuff right away |
| 15:13.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | "our" application |
| 15:13.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 15:13.52 | bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: I'd love to test imx8x but it's not released yet |
| 15:14.01 | bencoh | ah, then ... imx8m/x I'd say |
| 15:14.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | l, what I thought |
| 15:14.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | k |
| 15:14.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | a pity RISC-V has no embedded chips at all yet |
| 15:14.53 | bencoh | as far as I can tell fsl is the only "open-friendly" chip vendor for phone app |
| 15:15.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | fsl? |
| 15:15.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | oh iMX? |
| 15:16.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | imm nope, NXP makes iMX, no? |
| 15:16.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | so what/who is fsl? |
| 15:17.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | "PREPRODUCTION" -> https://www.nxp.com/products/processors-and-microcontrollers/applications-processors/i.mx-applications-processors/i.mx-8-processors/i.mx-8-family-arm-cortex-a53-cortex-a72-virtualization-vision-3d-graphics-4k-video:i.MX8 |
| 15:19.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | still wondering about that allwinner stuff |
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| 15:26.59 | TheKit | DocScrutinizer05, is the main problem with AllWinner that it would require external modem? |
| 15:27.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | err? I think that's a mandatory feature rather than a problem |
| 15:28.55 | KotCzarny | allwinner is good only because of the community |
| 15:29.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://neo900.org/stuff/cccamp15/ccc2015talk/talk.pdf#16 |
| 15:29.17 | KotCzarny | though they've hired some guy to write docs for then too |
| 15:29.43 | KotCzarny | *them |
| 15:32.01 | KotCzarny | also, being cheapest of them all, their chip designs arent top of the bunch in regards of power and performance |
| 15:33.18 | KotCzarny | doc, planning to do neowinner900 ? :> |
| 15:34.52 | KotCzarny | also, socs are sold for ~3-10usd |
| 15:36.19 | KotCzarny | though they are quite big and porbably wouldnt fit |
| 15:36.41 | KotCzarny | not to mention the heat |
| 15:36.48 | TheKit | there are also Rockchip efforts recently |
| 15:36.55 | TheKit | but it's for tablets/TV sticks |
| 15:37.16 | KotCzarny | how is tablet different to phone? |
| 15:37.37 | TheKit | size/power consumption/lack of mobile connectivity |
| 15:37.53 | KotCzarny | plenty of 3g/4g enabled tablets |
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| 15:38.18 | TheKit | sure, but most of them are MediaTek/Qualcomm-based now |
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| 15:57.23 | KotCzarny | n800 makes great irc console |
| 15:57.31 | KotCzarny | purrs |
| 15:58.18 | KotCzarny | aterm + xvkbd ftw |
| 15:59.23 | KotCzarny | why didnt i thought of it earler |
| 16:01.23 | KotCzarny | ooh i even have firefox here |
| 16:04.52 | KotCzarny | firefox 3.6.5pre |
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| 16:24.30 | brolin_empey | Vajb: The Facebook Chat/Messenger plug-in works with Pidgin but I have not tried using said plug-in on a Nokia computer. I stopped using a Nokia computer in 2014. |
| 16:25.48 | sicelo | it works with N900. i can confirm |
| 16:28.12 | brolin_empey | TheKit: KotCzarny: Tablet computers also usually seem to lack cellular telephony + SMS/MMS capability. The Asus FonePad is an exception at least for cellular calling. |
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| 16:44.37 | KotCzarny | i really like n800's mobility factor |
| 16:44.49 | KotCzarny | and reaistive screen |
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| 17:13.30 | KotCzarny | chatting on irc, edited fw on my router to allow renote, controlling oscp playing through stereo, browsing imgur. all on n800 |
| 17:13.42 | KotCzarny | im in love again |
| 17:14.33 | KotCzarny | btw. all of the above done lounging in the armchair |
| 17:17.12 | KotCzarny | and to think it has only 128m of mem |
| 17:18.35 | KotCzarny | sidecam has ultrash*tty quality ;) |
| 17:29.34 | sicelo | did 810 have cam? |
| 17:30.44 | KotCzarny | n800 had |
| 17:32.02 | KotCzarny | extendable from from body, rotatable, poor quality |
| 17:32.56 | sicelo | yes i know about about the one on n800. let me check what the situation was on N810, although i'd guess it also had |
| 17:34.01 | KotCzarny | it mightve had frontcam |
| 17:34.03 | sicelo | yes N810 also had, but non-rotating. it was in the front only |
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| 18:48.40 | KotCzarny | no bugs, no issues |
| 18:48.46 | KotCzarny | erm, wrong chan |
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| 18:54.06 | sicelo | sounds like lots of bugs and issues then :p |
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| 19:08.44 | Vajb | sicelo: did you install it from repos or made your own package? |
| 19:10.08 | Vajb | ^about pidgin facebook |
| 19:13.26 | sicelo | it's on tmo somewhere |
| 19:17.10 | sicelo | Vajb: https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=100122 |
| 19:17.39 | sicelo | ah yes, so it's in repos .. -devel |
| 19:22.19 | Vajb | ok thx. Seems to have some dependency issue here |
| 19:23.57 | Vajb | hmm actually no. It starts to install and then fails |
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| 19:38.13 | Vajb | but i have solution for the guy in the forum. Just tell him to add that imagefolder path to tracker. I did that with telegram and it works well. |
| 19:40.21 | sicelo | why you don't post yourself? :) |
| 19:42.22 | Vajb | can't recall my password right now :D |
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| 19:46.34 | sicelo | posted |
| 19:51.15 | Vajb | thx |
| 19:55.15 | Vajb | dpkg: error processing /home/user/MyDocs/.apt-archive-cache/purple-facebook_0.9.5-9ff9acf9fa14-0maemo1_armel.deb (--unpack): |
| 19:55.19 | Vajb | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.35 | Vajb | that seems to be my problem |
| 19:56.35 | Vajb | should i delete or rename the file and see what happens? |
| 19:56.51 | KotCzarny | diversion |
| 19:57.12 | KotCzarny | you can try forcing |
| 19:57.20 | KotCzarny | --force-all etc |
| 19:57.36 | Vajb | does ham do that? |
| 19:57.53 | KotCzarny | unlikely. apt |
| 19:58.13 | Vajb | well worth a shot |
| 20:00.02 | sicelo | where did the first one come from? |
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| 20:01.38 | Vajb | don't know |
| 20:01.49 | Vajb | didn't show up in ham remove list |
| 20:02.22 | Vajb | going to purge it |
| 20:03.07 | Vajb | that did the trick |
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| 20:17.09 | Vajb | ok, it seems to work \o/ |
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| 20:17.52 | sicelo | :) |
| 20:18.34 | Vajb | thx for the hint |
| 20:18.52 | Vajb | maybe i should keep one on TMO always |
| 20:18.55 | sicelo | yw |
| 20:18.58 | Vajb | one eye |
| 20:19.48 | Vajb | startup seems to be bit heavy |
| 20:21.17 | sicelo | you have many friends? |
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| 20:22.05 | Vajb | less than 200 hundreds |
| 20:22.36 | Vajb | have u tried any groups yet? |
| 20:22.58 | sicelo | i don't think it does groups |
| 20:25.07 | Vajb | i'll report back when some of groups has something happening |
| 20:26.15 | sicelo | they don't work :) |
| 20:26.25 | sicelo | unless you mean other types of groups |
| 20:28.18 | Vajb | i guess we speak of same thing |
| 20:28.30 | sicelo | then no |
| 20:28.45 | sicelo | this is only for chat/instant messaging |
| 20:29.44 | Vajb | yup. I meant chat with many users |
| 20:30.25 | sicelo | ok. i don't do that :) |
| 20:30.29 | sicelo | do report back |
| 20:31.45 | Vajb | sure thing |
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