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| 01:22.53 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~lf (or ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher) sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 03:57.21 | brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: Can the Openmoko GTA02 be powered from the USB port without a battery installed? I do not remember and do not care enough to try with one of the GTA02 I still have (but stopped using years ago). |
| 03:57.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | no |
| 03:57.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc not |
| 03:58.41 | brolin_empey | OK, that is what I thought but, as I said, I do not remember. |
| 04:00.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | well wait. with depleted battery for sure not. Without any battery, jury still out |
| 04:01.52 | brolin_empey | My work is now internetworked via FTTP using a Nokia box to convert from the optical fibre to Ethernet using copper wire. So now I use a Nokia product other than a USB power supply again. ;-) |
| 04:04.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | no idea if PCF50633 needs to see a battery at VB and/or BATSNS to start up |
| 04:06.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | also no idea if VSYS might get powered by that chip without battery, for sure it can't power the modem running directly from VB |
| 04:06.24 | brolin_empey | Does metropolitan Ethernet, as used in at least part of Russia (Moscow), use Ethernet over optical fibre? I keep forgetting that Ethernet can use optical fibre in addition to copper wire because I only ever knowingly use Ethernet over copper wire. |
| 04:08.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | no idea |
| 04:10.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway re GTA02 see http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/schematics/GTA02/Schematics_Freerunner-GTA02_A5-A7cumulative_public_RC0.pdf |
| 04:11.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | p.4 |
| 04:11.55 | brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: I still have at least four GTA02 collecting dust on my shelf at home, I can quickly try it instead of speculating. I know, I contradict myself but it seems like it should be quick to try. |
| 04:16.51 | brolin_empey | Why did the GTA02 use a miniUSB connector instead of a microUSB connector? So that the USB connector can be through-hole mounted instead of only surface-mounted? I do not know how the USB connector on the GTA02 is mounted but the microUSB connector on at least the N900 is only surface-mounted. |
| 04:19.39 | brolin_empey | Or because microUSB was less popular/common in 2008 than it is now, assuming that it already existed in 2008? |
| 04:22.04 | brolin_empey | Anyway, the first GTA02 I tried seems to not power on when connected to a USB power supply but without a battery installed. |
| 04:28.15 | brolin_empey | Remember the Bad Old Days when a digital âcellular telephoneâ prevented the user from using the video console without a SIM installed? I think Nokia still did that as late as 2005 at least for Series 40. |
| 05:15.47 | brolin_empey | Apparently I do not have a GTA02 battery at home even though I have at least four GTA02 at home. I guess my friend has some GTA02 batteries, if he still has the Openmoko GTA02 stuff I gave him years ago. |
| 05:23.40 | brolin_empey | Why did Nokia make both the BL-5J and BL-4J batteries when they have close to the same capacity? |
| 05:25.19 | brolin_empey | I still have some Nokia BL-5J and maybe at least one BL-4J batteries but I do not remember if these batteries can be used for the GTA02? |
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| 06:52.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | because microUSB was less popular/common in 2008 |
| 06:53.24 | KotCzarny | it's a pity they've abandoned miniusb |
| 06:53.36 | KotCzarny | it feels much sturdier than micro |
| 06:53.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~batteryfaq |
| 06:53.51 | infobot | i guess batteryfaq is http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Battery_Questions_and_Answers |
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| 10:47.00 | pkill9_ | I too some photos and they show up in the photos app, but i can't find them in file manager or using `ls` in terminal, or when mounted on my pC, even after a restart |
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| 10:52.19 | sicelo | pkill9_: /home/user/MyDocs/DCIM ? |
| 10:54.05 | sicelo | or, cat /home/user/.config/user-dirs.dirs in case somehow yours is set for different paths |
| 10:55.16 | pkill9_ | ah found them, it saved them to my sd card |
| 10:55.51 | pkill9_ | specifically, the boot partition of my SD card, lol |
| 10:56.04 | sicelo | :P |
| 11:10.54 | jon_y | ~emmc |
| 11:10.54 | infobot | emmc is, like, is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin or see ~emmc2 |
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| 11:30.56 | mike727 | Putting the N900 back together, after successfully unblocking the slider-mechanism. Before putting the last 4 phillip screws on, it seems the screen part wants to pring back out. Is this strange? |
| 11:31.13 | mike727 | *spring |
| 11:41.15 | mike727 | ha, that lip goes under the keyboard (I had dissasembled it a few months back) |
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| 11:47.24 | mike727 | I used lots of "CO contact cleaner". There is now white blotches all around the edge of the screen (wonder if this is permanent) |
| 11:58.29 | mike727 | https://imghost.io/images/2018/02/21/21022018077.jpg |
| 11:58.59 | mike727 | could I have damaged the connector/ribbon? |
| 12:10.43 | KotCzarny | more like something got between screen layers |
| 12:12.40 | KotCzarny | you probably overdid the cleaning |
| 12:13.00 | KotCzarny | use it as it is and look for new screen ;) |
| 12:13.36 | mike727 | live & learn :) |
| 12:13.51 | KotCzarny | i've never cleaned my n900's screen since 2009 |
| 12:14.06 | KotCzarny | and only changed screen protector once |
| 12:20.52 | Wizzup | I need to change my protector too... |
| 12:20.57 | Wizzup | it's in a pretty sorry state |
| 12:21.05 | Wizzup | did you just order one from ebay? |
| 12:21.28 | KotCzarny | nah, i had some generic that i just cut down to approximate shape |
| 12:21.42 | Wizzup | ack |
| 12:22.00 | KotCzarny | hard part was keeping screen dustless during the procedure |
| 12:22.18 | KotCzarny | even few tiny specks of dust look bad |
| 12:22.47 | KotCzarny | winter is nice because there is less dust in the air overall |
| 12:22.49 | sy | top tip: do it in the bathroom and run a super hot shower so stream drags all the dust particles to the floor |
| 12:22.56 | KotCzarny | or that |
| 12:23.29 | KotCzarny | but humidity can have adverse effects on the procedure too |
| 12:24.30 | KotCzarny | those glue-less protectors rely on clean contact between surfaces |
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| 12:27.32 | sy | yeah |
| 12:27.46 | sy | positive pressure works too |
| 12:28.12 | sy | put a brick on a bunch of air dusters and line up with the screen |
| 12:28.20 | sy | expensive though |
| 12:28.33 | sy | or pay to get it done in a vacuum |
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| 16:41.55 | sicelo | 14:21 < KotCzarny> nah, i had some generic that i just cut down to approximate shape |
| 16:42.45 | sicelo | ^ do you find that protectors for capacitive screns tends to be thicker than the ones for old resistives? |
| 16:43.30 | sicelo | my daily N900 is badly in need of a protector, but most shops i've been to have thick protectors |
| 16:44.00 | Wizzup | my protector is breaking down badly :) |
| 16:44.08 | Wizzup | the screen is hard to read at this point ;) |
| 16:46.06 | sicelo | same here :p |
| 16:46.32 | sicelo | well i can still read mine, but in the sun i have to find a nice angle |
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| 17:02.08 | KotCzarny | sicelo: i've used the both i think. didnt notice any difference for n900 |
| 17:02.18 | KotCzarny | other than quality and longevity |
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| 17:33.08 | sicelo | mm, ok. interesting. i always though the thick oones would perhaps need more pressure to press on, thus reducing accuracy, or stressing the TS |
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| 17:37.49 | sicelo | my 3G is so bad .. so many typos :( |
| 18:24.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | what sy said: bathroom, shower. Humidity isn't a big problem I guess, you even use soap water to attach large sticky patches to windows |
| 18:25.00 | sy | my phone's waterproof anyway so *shrug* |
| 18:25.14 | sy | although I havent ever been able to apply one properly |
| 18:25.21 | sy | nor have i ever scratched a screen |
| 18:25.55 | sy | well, my nokia came secondhand but it's not a very prized posession, and my actual phone had gorilla 3 glass |
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