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| 01:20.57 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~lf (or ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher) sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 15:51.34 | Max___ | Hello all, I am thinking about buying a Nokia N900. As Alternative I could buy a Sony Xperia X with Sailfish OS. But I like Maemo UI more. On the other side I read that Easy Debian will stop with Debian 8 in March 2018 and without modern browser I think a smartphone isn't so good. I saw the Meamo Leste project, too, what gives me hope... What would you suggest? Sailfish/Sony or the good old Nokia N900? Thanks, Max |
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| 15:54.38 | pkill9 | i have faith in Maemo-Leste, since i installed it and it ran, including wifi and browser and hildon |
| 15:55.13 | pkill9 | i can't recommend either way though |
| 15:57.04 | Max___ | @pkill9 thank you very much for your suggestion... |
| 15:57.26 | pkill9 | well don't need to be passive-aggressive |
| 15:57.39 | Max___ | Also for me the election is very hard. Sailfish would be the more modern approach |
| 15:59.54 | pkill9 | well, when i say i don't recommend either way, i mean based only on what's available currently (ignoring that maemo-leste may be good replacmenet in the future), i wouldn't recommend n900, and i don't know anything about the other phone or Sailfish to give you recommendation on that. Also I don't know what you need in a smartphone other than it to have modern browser |
| 16:00.22 | pkill9 | personally i just avoid smartphones, nokia n900 is last one i got |
| 16:00.42 | pkill9 | i'll use it again if maemo-leste fulfills it's promises |
| 16:01.12 | pkill9 | smartphones just get out of date because of needlessly more and more bloated websites |
| 16:01.56 | pkill9 | and marketing tells you you need to get the new iphone because reasons |
| 16:02.49 | Max___ | For me the Nokia N900 or the Sailfish Sony phone would be my first smartphone :-) |
| 16:03.31 | Max___ | I don't think, that I will be a extensive user. But a little bit browsing in the internet and navigation would be cool.. |
| 16:03.47 | pkill9 | assuming that maemo-leste fulfills it's promises, i would definitely choose n900 |
| 16:04.49 | pkill9 | it's a phone that's hardware has stood the test of time |
| 16:05.11 | pkill9 | e.g. no major problems over time, decent battery life |
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| 16:05.34 | Max___ | yes, this is really right and impressive. |
| 16:05.39 | sicelo | (discounting modem & USB problems) |
| 16:05.54 | pkill9 | oh yeah, USB if you aren't careful |
| 16:06.03 | pkill9 | sicelo: what modem problems are there? |
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| 16:07.25 | sicelo | many N900 have modems that stopped working. no fix available. in Maemo, the message you get is "All Telephony Functions Disabled" |
| 16:07.48 | sicelo | at least the USB problem can be fixed/avoided. |
| 16:08.19 | sicelo | with modem, the only theory is that try no to press too hard on your keyboard, as that is what might be causing the modems to get 'loose' |
| 16:09.43 | pkill9 | hmm sony Xperia X isn't too expensive |
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| 16:09.58 | sicelo | but, i'd still choose N900 :) |
| 16:15.23 | Max___ | Ok, you are a little bit biased ;-) The Sony I could get for 180 ⬠+ 50 ⬠for Sailfish. The Nokia would be 100 â¬. Perhaps I should give the Nokia a try... |
| 16:16.27 | pkill9 | Sailfish costs 50 euros? |
| 16:16.44 | sicelo | i'm biased, or pkill9? :) |
| 16:17.21 | sicelo | the hwkbd is really the best think about N900 (Droid 4 also has hwkbd) |
| 16:17.31 | sicelo | s/think/thing/ |
| 16:20.35 | Max___ | I think you could also flash a community port. But the official port from Jolla costs 49,90 â¬. But I have no problem with it. I want to support communities that support Linux... Yeah, the hardware keyboard is nice ;-) The Droid I havn't noticed untill now. Does Maemo/Linux run there? |
| 16:21.04 | Max___ | I saw Maemo Leste will have a port... But at the moment? |
| 16:24.11 | sicelo | Max___: https://wizzup.org/droid4-hd-1.mp4 ... still many rough edges, but it's coming for sure :) |
| 16:27.42 | sicelo | anyway, use/choose what suits you, as pkill9 already mentioned |
| 16:27.54 | sicelo | \o |
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| 16:32.46 | Max___ | @sicelo thanks for your help |
| 17:13.44 | TheKit | Max___, Droid 4 also have unofficial SailfishOS port, but hardware is rather outdated... |
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