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| 01:19.42 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~lf (or ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher) sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 10:37.23 | HtheB | hey Wizzup |
| 10:38.00 | HtheB | Got some time to help me? Ping me when you're there :) |
| 10:38.37 | Wizzup | hey, gimme just a few mins |
| 10:38.42 | HtheB | thanks! |
| 10:41.22 | Wizzup | sup |
| 10:42.36 | HtheB | trying out the images on my android device using qemu |
| 10:42.47 | HtheB | would love to get some Maemo love into my Android |
| 10:43.18 | HtheB | I've been using the Limbo emulator |
| 10:43.34 | HtheB | but there are so many options to choose from, I couldn't get it to work :( |
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| 10:44.47 | HtheB | Running Maemo on all devices, that's the dream! |
| 10:45.18 | KotCzarny | even maemo powered automatic toilet? |
| 10:45.26 | HtheB | https://m.popkey.co/d4a1e0/gaqzY.gif |
| 10:46.00 | Wizzup | HtheB: do you have an arm or amd64 android device |
| 10:46.22 | HtheB | arm64 |
| 10:46.40 | Wizzup | ok, so we don't have any arm64 virtual machine images yet - since that is also more tricky on arm |
| 10:46.46 | HtheB | ??? |
| 10:47.03 | HtheB | Im not going to flash the image on the phone |
| 10:47.06 | Wizzup | I was assuming you'd want to use a native arch, for virtualisation speed. |
| 10:47.08 | HtheB | It's getting emulated |
| 10:47.20 | HtheB | using Limbo |
| 10:47.25 | Wizzup | Right, but if you 'emulate' arm on arm64 in qemu, it's much faster. |
| 10:47.34 | Wizzup | You can also try to boot the amd64 image, if you prefer that. |
| 10:47.44 | Wizzup | Assuming Limbo can do KVM anyway |
| 10:47.49 | HtheB | yeah I downloaded the amd64 qcow2 |
| 10:47.53 | Wizzup | ok |
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| 10:49.38 | HtheB | ok, loding linux 4.9.0-5-amd64 |
| 10:49.50 | HtheB | Loading initial ramdisk ... |
| 10:49.55 | Wizzup | what exactly did you need help with btw? |
| 10:50.47 | HtheB | to get this thing alive |
| 10:50.48 | HtheB | :D |
| 10:52.06 | Wizzup | :) |
| 10:52.08 | HtheB | but I think it's booting |
| 10:52.23 | Wizzup | it'll be slow, especially since the opengl is also done on the cpu |
| 10:53.02 | HtheB | activating swap |
| 10:53.17 | HtheB | done |
| 10:56.08 | HtheB | aaaaaaand...... |
| 11:01.06 | HtheB | it tried to start the x server |
| 11:01.12 | HtheB | still black screen through |
| 11:01.21 | Wizzup | It'll not be usable speed wise |
| 11:01.25 | Wizzup | give it some time though ;) |
| 11:03.58 | HtheB | Maemo ! |
| 11:04.27 | HtheB | It actually booted ! |
| 11:04.47 | HtheB | I missed that default splash wallpaper :P |
| 11:04.56 | Wizzup | ;-) |
| 11:05.49 | HtheB | I wish it was in usable state :( |
| 11:06.16 | Wizzup | well, you're emulating intel on arm. |
| 11:06.29 | Wizzup | if there was a usable arm image that you could use with limbo in kvm, it'd be better. |
| 11:06.40 | Wizzup | that's what I said before |
| 11:06.42 | HtheB | ah |
| 11:06.47 | HtheB | ok now i get it |
| 11:07.10 | HtheB | armel qcow2? |
| 11:08.28 | Wizzup | there is none yet. that's what I said |
| 11:08.35 | HtheB | yeah |
| 11:08.41 | Wizzup | also X is more difficult in such a scenario, I'd have to try it on my own arm64 hardware |
| 11:08.49 | Wizzup | it's kind of a low priority though ;) |
| 11:09.06 | HtheB | what about regular arm |
| 11:09.23 | Wizzup | same |
| 11:10.57 | HtheB | ok :( |
| 11:11.03 | HtheB | guess that's waiting for an arm image then |
| 11:11.36 | Wizzup | well, yeah, but your usecase very esoteric :P |
| 11:12.12 | Wizzup | still, you can post a screenie of it working on the thread? :p |
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| 15:31.53 | Halftux | when I am installing (upgrade) libgtk2.0-0 (2.14.7-1maemo34+0cssu2+thumb0) in the sdk it complains about a missing path /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.14.0/immodules when I look on my device which is on cssu-testing and has same version but non-thumb I dont have that folder. Is this normal? I wanted to copy this folder to the sdk |
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| 15:36.39 | Halftux | ehmm sorry I mean libgtk2.0-bin |
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| 17:03.00 | sicelo | i have a communication app on my Android phone and wish to hopefully figure out how its protocol works (www.2go.im ... yes it sucks, but a few friends use it). I think the J2ME apps don't use HTTPS, but the android one does. So I am wondering if mitm-proxy can help me see traffic the app transmits? or worthless? |
| 17:03.51 | sicelo | or mitm-proxy works best for websites, etc.? |
| 17:06.39 | sicelo | or i should find a way to do this through wireshark maybe :-/ |
| 17:23.20 | sixwheeledbeast | wireshark you would have to hub out your ap? |
| 17:27.17 | sicelo | what does 'hub' out mean? |
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| 17:46.35 | sixwheeledbeast | i am no expert on the matter but to use wireshark to monitor a device on a network you need the traffic to be send to every point. this is done by hubbing out. |
| 17:47.37 | sixwheeledbeast | Where a switch routes traffic to the correct place a hub repeats traffic to every device so you can sniff it. |
| 17:49.16 | sicelo | i get you now |
| 17:49.47 | sicelo | well i can make the laptop a wifi hotspot and have the phone connect via it |
| 17:49.58 | sixwheeledbeast | Unless you can connect the device direct to the wireshark machine so you can mitm |
| 17:50.36 | sixwheeledbeast | yep |
| 17:52.53 | sicelo | i got an app called Packet Sniffer for the android for now ... it's able to show some cleartext traffic. looks like i don't need to worry too much about the https traffic. |
| 18:44.57 | sixwheeledbeast | I am surprised to see a whatapp like alternative like that. |
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| 19:17.41 | sicelo | heh. it's been there for many years. anyway it is most definitely not good by modern standards, especially since there's no encryption |
| 19:18.52 | sicelo | and it's use has declined. now only the few still stuck on feature phones use it |
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