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| 00:43.50 | xes | has anyone experience about the osso_rss_feed_reader error "invalid address" adding or refreshing any feed? |
| 01:03.25 | Oksana | Happens regularly. Most of RSS feeds I am trying to add do not work. I think it's some protocol incompatibility? |
| 01:03.54 | sixwheeledbeast | been using other rss readers for a while now. |
| 01:04.25 | Oksana | There are a few RSS feeds that work, though. Wish I could figure out what exactly the problem is. |
| 01:04.33 | Oksana | Then it would be easier to solve it. |
| 01:05.38 | Oksana | is refreshing right now |
| 01:07.34 | Oksana | Hmm, it didn't give any errors, but it says (no posts) now. I understand that there are possibly no new posts since last time I looked at the feeds, but could I see old posts, please? |
| 01:08.25 | xes | i think there is something broken at low level... any web page produces "invalid address" |
| 01:09.08 | Oksana | xes : try this link : http://www.take3.org/feed/ |
| 01:09.46 | Oksana | has it as one of feeds, so it shouldn't give "invalid address"... I think |
| 01:10.10 | xes | "impossible to add feed. Invalid address" |
| 01:10.34 | xes | Oksana: ^ |
| 01:12.11 | Oksana | Hmmm... http://downdetector.com/ Global net.hiccups? |
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| 01:13.57 | xes | Oksana: the address is ok, the app is not working |
| 01:14.17 | Oksana | The app was working, or the feed wouldn't be in my list atm |
| 01:14.58 | xes | can you add it again? |
| 01:15.29 | Oksana | Testing |
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| 01:19.30 | xes | ..same version.. but something is clearly broken in my device. Thanks for checking |
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| 01:19.59 | Oksana | No problem :-) Wish I knew why my old feed displays (no posts)... |
| 01:20.55 | Oksana | OS version is 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo12 , CSSU Testing |
| 01:24.41 | Oksana | deletes old feed |
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| 04:48.26 | sicelo | on the subject of feeds, is there a feed reader for N900 that can handle feeds served via HTTPS? |
| 05:02.26 | brolin_empey | sicelo: I guess yes but I do not know because Thunderbird is still the only news feed reader/agregator (spelling?) I have seriously used. Thunderbird supports HTTPS for news feeds but, as far as I know, no mobile version of Thunderbird has been released. |
| 05:04.17 | brolin_empey | Do the mobile versions of Opera include a feed reader? |
| 05:10.30 | brolin_empey | Incidentally: It occurs to me that a jet engine is still a propeller in a literal sense of the word propeller. |
| 05:14.01 | brolin_empey | Apparently the ability to subscribe to a bank account as an RSS/Atom news feed would be too useful to be easily possible in practice. |
| 05:16.34 | Oksana | lawls ; do RSS/Atom news feeds allow for authentication? |
| 05:17.17 | Oksana | Because banks generally regard such information as private, and would not want to publish it available for whole world to see |
| 05:18.00 | Oksana | Besides usual "walled garden" approach where they try to limit banking operations to bank-developed apps, and only grudgingly allow for Internet Banking |
| 05:20.01 | brolin_empey | Oksana: An RSS or Atom news feed is usually accessed via HTTP or HTTPS. HTTP has authentication ability. |
| 05:20.57 | Oksana | Does HTTPS have username+password authentication ability? If yes, and if RSS news feed reader works with it, then it should be doable. |
| 05:21.30 | Oksana | By the way, regarding authentication: is it possible to post news from RSS feed program, or is it merely at "reader" level? |
| 05:27.04 | brolin_empey | RSS and Atom are data/file formats, not a means of accessing a news feed. In practice, a news feed is usually an XML file served by an HTTP server. Authentication is out of the scope of RSS and Atom as a data/file format. HTTP has at least Basic authentication, which uses credentials (a username and password). I have only configured an HTTP server using Basic authentication using HTTP, not HTTPS, but I assume that authentication at the HTTP level is |
| 05:27.04 | brolin_empey | still possible with HTTPS. |
| 05:33.00 | brolin_empey | Oksana: It is possible to have posting ability in a news feed reader program but I guess that most news feed reader programs lack this ability because such programs are primarily intended for consumers of news, not producers of news. If you can edit a plain text file, though, you can edit an XML file, including one used for RSS or Atom. |
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| 05:43.46 | Oksana | facepalms at how most programs are intended at consumption, not generation |
| 05:45.30 | Oksana | Web-browser : consume HTML, not edit it; same for an SVG file, or an image (strictly speaking, jpg/png/raster images should be openable in an image viewer, instead of web-browser - web-browser doesn't have crop or zoom functionality of image viewer; and image viewer should easily feed the image to |
| 05:46.29 | Oksana | Media player: consumes audio/video/radio, no editing. Even metadata editing would be nice to have (image viewer already has it, just, not media player). |
| 05:46.29 | Oksana | an image editor). |
| 05:46.51 | Oksana | EBook reader: again, only reading books, not writing or editing them. |
| 05:52.34 | brolin_empey | Oksana: Modern GUI Web browsers can scale (zoom) images. |
| 05:53.35 | Oksana | Together with web-page, sure. Can they zoom into image without zooming into web page? Or adjust its brightness/contrast? |
| 05:56.19 | sicelo | HTTPS Feeds - i think most (if not all) the RSS feed reader applications we have are not built with SSL/TLS libraries, hence can't consume HTTPS feeds. unfortunately most of the web is becoming https-only |
| 06:12.44 | Oksana | Well, is osso RSS reader open-source? |
| 06:14.58 | brolin_empey | Oksana: The first Web browser was actually a combination browser/editor, not only a browser. Tim Berners-Lee always intended for the Web to be a platform/medium for collaboration, not merely a one-way publishing medium. |
| 06:14.58 | brolin_empey | https://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/WorldWideWeb.html |
| 06:17.43 | brolin_empey | Closed-source software from the Open-Source Software Operation(s)? 0_o |
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| 06:29.06 | brolin_empey | Oksana: Modern GUI Web browsers now include an inspector tool with the same live editing capability as the Firebug extension introduced or at least popularised around a decade ago. This type of tool can be used to scale an inline image without scaling the rest of the containing document. If the brightness or contrast of an image can be set as a property exposed via CSS or the DOM or something similar, which it can if I recall correctly, then a Web browser |
| 06:29.06 | brolin_empey | can also adjust the brightness or contrast of an image. |
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| 06:35.01 | brolin_empey | I have a strong interest in the history of the Web and have personally contacted Tim Berners-Lee and his personal assistant Amy. |
| 06:40.42 | brolin_empey | sicelo: I guess you can probably find a feed reader that can run in a Web browser that already has TLS support. After all, even a Java Runtime Environment has been implemented in JavaScript to run in a Web browser. |
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| 08:52.18 | mike727 | hmm, an N800 with screen issues. https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/1171298595 |
| 08:56.16 | brolin_empey | Heh: |
| 08:56.16 | brolin_empey | https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Meltdown_(security_vulnerability)&oldid=819562392#Intel_CEO_Krzanich's_maximal_unexplained_stock_sale_after_notification |
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| 10:02.49 | sixwheeledbeast | It was one the things that got Meltdown leaked early. |
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| 10:38.40 | deepy | something to do with new tax rules |
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| 21:00.23 | sicelo | is there a way to adjust screen contrast on N900? |
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| 22:02.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | there are a few sysnodes |
| 22:04.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | but exactly contrast prolly isn't one of them |
| 22:06.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | no matter if it's 565 or 888, you most likely got a pretty linear brightness control by data per pixel and color |
| 22:08.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | except there's that dynamic backlight control thing that reduces backlight brightness so the brightest pixel in display could actually operate at FFFFFF brightness from LCD even when it actually was darker |
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| 22:09.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | all that is done transparently by the LCD controller chip |
| 22:09.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | but there's a sysnode to select a few modes *how* and if it does this |
| 22:10.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | in settings it shows up as "blabla energy saving: video|gui|none" or somesuch |
| 22:13.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, actually just "[_] power saving" in display settings |
| 22:13.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | sysnode has 3 modes though IIRC |
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