IRC log for #maemo on 20171229

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01:07.30CatButtsEnrico_Menotti
01:07.36CatButtshttp://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/devuan_steps.txt
01:07.47CatButtsthe network connection steps are finalized
01:08.17CatButtstomorrow, you teach me how to get this thing up to date and install a graphical environment
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03:55.09vahegood morning Maemo
04:02.21vaheyesterday I installed boot-menu(fanoush's)  and "kernel power53"  want to have 2 operating systems namely , when enabled, the boot menu appeared, there are 2 lines of choice  1. maemo5 2.poweroff
04:03.37vahethe second OS I downloaded Devuan
04:03.56vahehttps://mirror.leaseweb.com/devuan/devuan_jessie/embedded/
04:04.05vahen900.img
04:04.29vaheI unpacked it using `dd`
04:08.29vahedd if=n900.img of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=64K ; sync ,  but the second OS I don't see
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04:33.21siceloyou need to also have a bootmenu item file
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05:04.43vahesicelo: thanks,but how?
05:07.19vahehttp://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/bootmenu/ yeah
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05:10.44vahesicelo: it remains to understand how to add :)
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06:33.27luke-jrwonders how Devuan works considering the N900 kernel is not supported by any recent glibc
06:35.50KotCzarnyluke-jr: you are aware about mainlining work of fmg and pali?
06:41.45vahecan someone help me?  I installed Recovery Mode + DevuanOS how to make bootmenu to see the OS?
06:43.41luke-jrKotCzarny: no
06:44.17KotCzarnythe whole idea is to have maemo on generic linux device with mainline kernel
06:44.30KotCzarnywhich also includes n900 with mainline kernel
06:45.21KotCzarnythey chose devuan as a distro of choice
06:45.39KotCzarnythat's why there is devuan image specifically for n900 too
06:46.16KotCzarnyfmg uses cheap allwinner a33 tablet as a 'generic device'
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07:27.03CatButtsawakes from his asleep
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08:12.06Enrico_MenottiCatButts So I see you found a way to solve the problem with wpa_supplicant.conf. What was it?
08:12.23CatButtsread the text file
08:12.29CatButtshttp://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/devuan_steps.txt
08:13.05Enrico_MenottiYeah, I read that, but did you create wpa_supplicant.conf from scratch?
08:14.41CatButts# nano /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
08:14.43CatButtsyes
08:14.52CatButtsthis creates file if it doesn't exist
08:15.10CatButtsI love you, nano
08:15.25CatButtssnarls at vi/vim
08:15.44Enrico_MenottiAh ok. In my case I installed wpa_supplicant, and probably the wpa_supplicant.conf was included with the installation.
08:16.12CatButtsthis guide is strictly for THAT downloaded image
08:17.35freemangordonwhy don't you just use wpa_passphrase?
08:17.35CatButtsso, what's the next thing to do?
08:17.49CatButtshow do you use that
08:18.03siceloCatButts: did you have to get a 4.x kernel first, or was it in the image already?
08:18.20CatButtsit must have been in the image
08:18.28CatButtslet me do an uname -a
08:19.00sicelogood. help to know :-)
08:19.22CatButtshmmm
08:19.23Enrico_MenottiNow to update the system, I'd use apt-get. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianPackageManagement
08:19.38CatButtsone oddity
08:19.45CatButtsI booted up uboot
08:19.52CatButtsno backlit keyboard!
08:19.52Enrico_Menottifreemangordon Hi, long time we don't see each other. How are you?
08:19.58CatButtsaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
08:20.08freemangordondoing fine, REing icd2 :)
08:20.25Enrico_MenottiDon't know what icd2 is...
08:20.36sicelothat's great freemangordon
08:20.53Enrico_MenottiWhat's the present situation with the Hildon?
08:21.39CatButtswhy is thing not backlit?
08:21.50CatButtsnot even in devuan
08:22.08freemangordonEnrico_Menotti: http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/5.0-final/icd2/index.html
08:22.14KotCzarnycatbutts: stop complaining, start coding
08:22.27CatButtsI ain't coding
08:22.36CatButtsI am writing newbie guide
08:22.43CatButtswhile being spoonfed
08:22.50CatButtshow about that
08:23.06freemangordonEnrico_Menotti: https://github.com/maemo-leste
08:23.10freemangordonre hildon
08:24.49CatButtsthe thing made me turn my lights on
08:24.57CatButtsthis is all your fault, KotCzarny
08:25.01CatButts:P
08:25.17Enrico_MenottiSo there's a new Maemo release??? WOW!!!
08:25.52Enrico_Menottifreemangordon I understand Hildon is ready, right?
08:27.00freemangordonready for testing, yes
08:27.11CatButtsfirst thing gonna do
08:27.14Enrico_MenottiWell done!!!
08:27.14freemangordonstill a couple of bugs, see issue tracker
08:27.21CatButtsapt-get update
08:27.25CatButtsapt-get upgrade
08:27.29Enrico_MenottiI will consider installing and testing!
08:27.46KotCzarnyenrico: better get second n900 for testing
08:28.03KotCzarnyi suspect it's not entirely ready to be used as a main system
08:28.25Enrico_MenottiKotCzarny Oh, my N900 is not my primary device. I use it just for playing with the system.
08:28.29freemangordonEnrico_Menotti: won;t work on n900, you need device with GPU drivers
08:28.44freemangordonwith upstream kernel that is
08:29.27freemangordonKotCzarny: no need to suspect, it is far from ready
08:29.30freemangordon:)
08:29.46Enrico_Menottifreemangordon Sorry? Isn't Devuan on N900, then with upstream kernel, suitable for testing the Hildon?
08:30.00freemangordonit is suitable, but you need drivers
08:30.18freemangordonfor SGX530
08:30.35Enrico_MenottiSGX530 is the N900 GPU?
08:30.39freemangordonyes
08:30.49Enrico_MenottiAnd no drivers in upstream kernel?
08:30.56vahehi freemangordon  )
08:31.06vahehi KotCzarny CatButts :)
08:31.07freemangordonno, you can get them from TI
08:31.49freemangordonvahe: hi
08:31.51Enrico_MenottiAh, ok. Is this possible? I mean, I can browse TI's website, find the drivers, and have them work with mainline kernel?
08:32.04freemangordonin theory, yes
08:32.19Enrico_MenottiAnd I think these drivers are included in original Maemo's kernel, right?
08:32.47freemangordonalso, you'll need xorg omap driver and https://github.com/freemangordon/pvr
08:33.14CatButtsafter an 'apt-get upgrade'
08:33.15freemangordonnone of these was tested, so be my guest :)
08:33.20CatButtsdo I need to clean packages?
08:33.31CatButtsor is it automagic?
08:33.42CatButtsdownloaded tarballs
08:33.57freemangordonEnrico_Menotti: https://github.com/maemo-leste/xserver-xorg-video-fbdev is xorg driver
08:33.59Enrico_Menottifreemangordon I already stepped upon dri2 some time ago. Don't remember what it be, however.
08:34.20vaheguys I was one step for the "Devuan" I need `Devuan.item` sorry to disturb you :D
08:35.10vahe".item" don't know what text I should write
08:35.43freemangordonvahe: chek u-boot thread on TMO
08:35.47freemangordon*check
08:37.19Enrico_Menottifreemangordon All you did is very very very nice. I'll put on this on queue for my next days. I'm on holiday till January, 7th, so I hope I have time to start playing with it.
08:37.46Enrico_MenottiJust one thing: all these things are to be built from source, right?
08:38.48freemangordonyes
08:39.10freemangordonEnrico_Menotti: there is already a repo with most of the packages pre-build
08:39.43freemangordonhttp://maedevu.maemo.org/
08:40.01freemangordonEnrico_Menotti: see http://sprunge.us/iOYL for how to add the repo
08:40.47freemangordonmake sure to use armel, not armhf as maemo userspace you're going to reuse is armel
08:42.01Enrico_MenottiAlright, gathered all info. Will do in the next days.
08:42.30freemangordonwish you luck
08:42.32Enrico_MenottiWhat's Kawai? Is that a piano? (Musical instrument with a keyboard.)
08:42.38Enrico_Menotti:)
08:42.53Enrico_MenottiAnd what's Leste? Is that another wind name?
08:43.05freemangordonignore that, Wizzup invented it as a transitional name
08:43.15freemangordonyes, leste is a wind
08:43.15Enrico_MenottiKawai or Leste?
08:43.23freemangordonignore kawai
08:43.37KotCzarnyme-moleste, expresses how much developers were stressed during creating it :P
08:43.43freemangordonuse leste instead of kawai
08:43.45Enrico_MenottiWhere is that wind?
08:44.21freemangordonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leste
08:44.49Enrico_MenottiCanary islands. Nice place for holidays.
08:45.17vahefreemangordon: check TMO? how ? and what is TMO
08:45.45Enrico_MenottiI also like a lot Bora. Very cold wind typical of my region (especially Trieste). Coming from Russia. Name already used, however, right?
08:45.54Enrico_Menottivahe talk.maemo.org
08:46.21freemangordonright
08:46.55freemangordonis going afk
08:47.31Enrico_Menottifreemangordon Have a nice day, thanks for all the info!
08:47.47Enrico_MenottiI'm going to do other things now, so wish a nice day everybody!
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08:53.07CatButtshow do I activate keyboard light from console?
08:54.04CatButts[10:43] <Enrico_Menotti> Where is that wind?
08:54.10CatButtsfarts
08:55.48CatButtsI think I need to shop around for graphical interfaces
08:55.54Enrico_MenottiBora is a wind typical of north-east Italy. Especially the city of Trieste and sorroundings.
08:56.04CatButtssomething that would make sense on an n900
08:56.32Enrico_MenottiThere's a simple way to turn on the keyboard lights, I'm looking for that - I don't remember exactly, right now.
08:56.59CatButtshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rur_QAoVZmw it's not xset :P
08:57.40CatButtshas to be something that is already on the devuan image
08:57.51CatButtsthe first thing when you enter the room
08:57.55CatButtsis turn on the lights
08:58.36CatButtsalso, do I need to do a cleanup after apt-get upgrade?
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09:11.17Enrico_MenottiCatButts Sorry, right now I don't get the single instruction for turning keyboard lights on. It's just writing a specific value to a specific system file, but I find commands a bit more complicated than the one I knew. I have a batch on my N900 to turn lights on, but can't access it right now.
09:11.51Enrico_MenottiHave to do other things now - maybe will see this later.
09:11.52CatButtsthen it's outside the scope of this tutoriak
09:12.21CatButtsI want to know if cleanup is needed after 'apt-get upgrade'
09:12.57Enrico_MenottiAs far as I remember, apt-get upgrade upgrades all packages, but does not remove any old one that is not needed anymore.
09:13.17CatButtsI mean
09:13.17Enrico_MenottiThere's also apt-get dist-upgrade, if I'm right, which upgrades and cleans up.
09:13.42CatButtspackages are downloaded
09:13.45Enrico_MenottiBut these commands are delicate to use. You may ruin your system if something is going wrong.
09:14.05CatButtsduring apt-get upgrade
09:14.13CatButtsare they left there or deleted?
09:14.43Enrico_MenottiDon't know, probably they are put in a temporary place, but I'm not sure.
09:18.30CatButtsI was to do something....
09:18.32CatButtshmmmmmm
09:19.14CatButts[10:18] <CatButts> let me do an uname -a
09:19.14CatButts[10:19] <sicelo> good. help to know :-)
09:19.18CatButtsthere we go
09:20.31CatButtsdevuan 4.10.17 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 00:28:43 CEST 2017 armv71 GNU/Linux
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09:34.23CatButtshttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8MSxFQ7qIf0/Uox1O7LVfmI/AAAAAAAABd4/DkYZfjb2v7A/s1600/aptitude-menu.jpg
09:34.34CatButtsoh hey, it even comes with minesweeper!
09:34.38CatButtsI'm sold
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09:58.41CatButtsthis extra vodka is making me extra joly
09:59.15CatButtsright, so, 'apt-get clean' after every 'apt-get upgrade'
10:01.22varuhow come?
10:02.20KotCzarnyhe has small... sdcard
10:02.23KotCzarny;)
10:02.41varu:D
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10:49.18vaheI have smooches somebody can tell how to launch the "devuan" ? everything is all set left configuration .".item" which is no where
10:49.55vaheeverything is already set up I just don't know what parameters
10:50.31vahehttps://bpaste.net/show/94844ce003cd
10:51.38vaheI ran said not found dev/mmcblk0p1/uImage
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10:57.48vahelol
10:57.53vahehttps://git.devuan.org/sdk/arm-sdk/blob/master/doc/quirks.md
10:58.29vahejust needed to write "run sdboot"
10:58.32vahethanks all
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11:00.26WikiwideOne-liner : datestamp="$(date +"/home/user/MyDocs/Downloads/wget/%Y%m%d_%H_%M_%S/")"; wget --no-check-certificate -P "$datestamp" https://i.imgur.com/jb0Uw7A.jpg && hildon-mime-summon  "$datestamp$(ls "$datestamp")"
11:00.59WikiwideOf course, once advanced fuctionality is thrown it, it will have to be expanded beyond one-liner
11:02.59WikiwideAnd of course, this one-liner works fine in X Terminal, but not at all in Browser Switchboard...
11:03.38CatButtshttps://i.imgur.com/yLDHoP7.png
11:03.40CatButts:D
11:05.28WikiwideVim I know tolerably well. What I don't know, it how browser switchboard works.
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11:11.40vahelol
11:12.59CatButtsvahe, are you attempting the devuan thing on n900?
11:13.04vaheyup
11:13.20vaheworks perfectly
11:13.24CatButtshttp://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/devuan_steps.txt I have these done
11:13.33CatButtsfeel free to follow and suggest aditions
11:13.47CatButtsor corrections
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11:14.42CatButtsI want to turn it into a wiki entry when mature enough
11:15.02vaheNice )
11:15.06vaheCatButts: I one day spent on one prophetic which you have not written
11:15.21CatButts?
11:15.28CatButtsdidn't quite comprehend
11:17.07vaheboot
11:17.19CatButtspoot
11:17.43vaheapt-get install u-boot-tools u-boot flasher
11:18.04vahenext To boot, dd the image to a microSD card, and in the uboot console, type: run sdboot
11:18.11vahehttps://git.devuan.org/sdk/arm-sdk/blob/master/doc/quirks.md
11:18.37vahedon't need kernel power53
11:18.56CatButtscorrect
11:19.02CatButtsbut that's what I use
11:19.37CatButtsso you say, in the guide I didn't detail the uboot installation step
11:20.00vaheyou have correctly written all only add about boot )
11:20.02vahenice
11:20.30WikiwideIf I replace hildon-mime-summon in one-liner with echo, it works better in X Terminal (as in, doesn't get stuck unending in command-line waiting for Ctrl-C). No idea if that's related to the browser-switchboard problem though
11:20.35vahereally thanks for the help I'll keep your post
11:21.38CatButtshelp back by adding to it
11:22.23vahe:)
11:26.07CatButtshttp://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/devuan_steps.txt
11:26.11CatButtshow is it meow?
11:28.12WikiwideIn short, hildon-mime-summon probably needs code editing to make sure it does actually exit upon doing what it was called to do. Besides proper packaging...
11:31.28vaheCatButts: xzcat devuan_jessie_1.0.0_armhf_n900.img.xz | dd of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=2M
11:31.30vaheCan and so I did so :)
11:32.02CatButtsare you doing that on the phone?
11:32.06vaheno
11:32.08vahepc
11:32.09CatButtsgood
11:32.54vaheimg.xz whether it is possible not to unpack )
11:32.57CatButtsthis guide is meant to be done in 3 places
11:33.16CatButtsany OS, maemo on n900, Devuan on n900
11:33.23vaheyup )
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11:41.17vaheCatButts: dd if=devuan_jessie_1.0.0_armhf_n900.img of=/dev/mmcblk1?
11:41.38CatButtsyes
11:41.39CatButtsbut
11:41.53CatButtscheck that /dev/mmcblk1 is the one
11:41.58CatButts!important
11:42.06vahedd if=devuan_jessie_1.0.0_armhf_n900.img of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=1024 seek=8 && sync
11:42.39CatButtstry mount
11:42.39vahesee https://mirror.leaseweb.com/devuan/devuan_jessie/embedded/README.txt
11:42.58varuwhy the seek/skip btw?
11:43.07CatButtsno idea
11:43.17CatButtsI never used them
11:44.21varuvahe?
11:44.43varuahh, part of the readme
11:45.06varuwould have to look at what's in that first 8 to see why it's offset
11:45.15varureadme should describe it boohiss
11:45.54vaheCatButts: I'm sure
11:46.12vahebe sure `sync`
11:46.18vahemmcblk0
11:46.35CatButtsbe careful where you dd
11:46.48CatButtsone is emmc, the other is your SD card
11:47.00CatButtsyou wouldn't want to fuckle the former
11:48.02WikiwideI am tired. In attempt to figure out why one-liner doesn't work with browser-switchboard, I put it as a file in /usr/bin. Now I don't know how to explain this /usr/bin/zebra to eat the url fed to script. %1 doesn't work.
11:49.33WikiwideQuotes or no quotes, wget fails to resolve %1
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12:16.27vaheCatButts: https://spyurk.am/posts/a4a72a40cebf013578f9746d04923301 :)
12:17.09vaheI am from Armenia and wrote for us
12:17.22vahescreenshots of my
12:30.30WikiwideWorks now! Zebra url handler: killall hildon-mime-summon && datestamp="$(date +"/home/user/MyDocs/Downloads/wget/%Y%m%d_%H_%M_%S/")" && wget --no-check-certificate -P "$datestamp" "$1" && hildon-mime-summon  "$datestamp"*
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14:41.36CatButtsanus
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14:42.01CatButtswanker
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14:42.15KotCzarnybencoh: invite sigyn
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14:42.34CatButts\o/
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14:42.43*** mode/#maemo [+o DocScrutinizer51] by ChanServ
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14:43.18KotCzarnydoc, inviting sigyn doesnt work if one is opless
14:43.56DocScrutinizer51Im op, no?
14:44.06KotCzarnysure, but too late
14:44.10KotCzarnyit got k-lined anyway
14:44.19DocScrutinizer51mhm
14:45.07DocScrutinizer51and the channel is +g, everybody can invite sigyn but it seems sigyn can't join more channels
14:45.18atkha!
14:45.29KotCzarnyhmm, looks +ntC only
14:45.30atkwow, is there a limit on the number of channels it can be in?
14:45.38atk+Cfgnt
14:45.46atker, +Cfgnt ##overflow *
14:45.47KotCzarnymight be my client then
14:46.10DocScrutinizer51yes, normal users 40 chan, with a rare to get special flag 120chan
14:46.22atkreally?
14:46.28atkI'm sure I've been in more than 40 channels before
14:46.59DocScrutinizer51that's what I been told by staff
14:47.03DocScrutinizer51never tested it
14:47.40atkyeah.. I'm in 69 channels
14:47.53DocScrutinizer51I asked cause infobot/apt/purl
14:48.11DocScrutinizer51nfc
14:48.14atkmaybe it's a limit for bots
14:48.25DocScrutinizer51who's a bot?
14:48.30atkSigyn
14:48.49DocScrutinizer51well yes, but... infobot isnt
14:49.15DocScrutinizer51she's a 'normal user'
14:49.34DocScrutinizer51~+chaninfo
14:49.34infobot120/120 channels, 2872 users, 2069 unique: #kde/625, #devuan/240, #gsoc/230, #asterisk/179, #maemo/138, #wowuidev/118, #oe/113, #neo900/90, #wowace/83, #arm-netbook/52, #elinux/45, #bzflag/45, #harmattan/45, #curseforge/41, #asterisk-dev/41, #cubieboard/40, #openmoko/40, #qi-hardware/39, #utah/37, #meego/37, #maemo-ssu/33, #openmoko-cdevel/32, #wowhead/31, #webos-internals/28, #brlcad/24, #slug/21, #uphpu/19, ##lds/16, #debianppc/15, #gllug/14, ...
14:50.32atkinfobot is in 74 channels according to whois
14:50.36atkprobably more if they're hidden
14:51.46DocScrutinizer51yes, infobot *might* have the 'extend bum of chan' flag, legacy
14:52.43DocScrutinizer51~+chanset autojoin
14:52.43infobotShowing autojoin values on all channels...
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14:55.21DocScrutinizer51please ask a staffer in *freenode whats the deal with num of chan allowed and with /invite sigyn and when or why it #oes or doesn't work
14:56.05KotCzarnyprobably anti-mass join+spam measure
14:57.13KotCzarnyand for bots anti dos
14:59.05DocScrutinizer51I failed to word my 'question' correctly since I don't understand your 'answer'
15:01.04KotCzarnyyeah, you suggested that uses should nag freenode about limit, while i've suggested that chan limit is to prevent dosing bot via multichannel flood
15:01.12KotCzarny*users
15:02.22DocScrutinizer51160129 <DocScrutinizer51> mquin: is there a limit for number of chan a user can join?
15:02.38DocScrutinizer51160146 <mquin> DocScrutinizer51: 120
15:07.02*** join/#maemo mquin (~mquin@freenode/staff/mquin)
15:10.34DocScrutinizer51according to staffer mquin /invite sigyn sometimes works, sometimes not. it's WIP
15:10.56CatButtsmeow
15:11.36DocScrutinizer51anyway always worth a try when a spammer goes mad in here
15:12.47KotCzarny- Inviting Sigyn to channel #maemo
15:12.52KotCzarnywaiting..
15:14.45DocScrutinizer51KotCzarny: A) I tried this 30min ago and B) there IS NO spam in this chan right now!
15:15.28KotCzarnyyeah, but as it was already said it probably is in too many channels
15:15.55*** join/#maemo Sigyn (sigyn@freenode/utility-bot/sigyn)
15:15.59*** part/#maemo Sigyn (sigyn@freenode/utility-bot/sigyn)
15:16.04DocScrutinizer51maybe because too many users invited her without actual need
15:16.15DocScrutinizer51likie you just did
15:17.08KotCzarnyand it is probably lagged to hell
15:17.24KotCzarnysee my guess about channel limit
15:17.27DocScrutinizer51actually she should leave chan now if she was in here.
15:17.58DocScrutinizer51I don't see a guess about chan limit
15:18.07DocScrutinizer51and sigyn doesn't lag
15:18.52CatButtssigyn is a she?
15:18.53DocScrutinizer51her resource demand is 'like that one pixel upper left on your screen', as another user worded it
15:19.03mquinCatButts: yes, she's a norse deity
15:19.07DocScrutinizer51all bots are female on irc
15:19.27sixwheeledbeast~botsnack
15:19.27infobotsixwheeledbeast: thanks
15:19.36CatButtsdeadly fembots!
15:20.01DocScrutinizer51yeah infobot sometimes lags but that's Tim's uplink
15:20.51DocScrutinizer51hi mquin :)
15:22.43DocScrutinizer51mquin: I wondered if sigyn could get attached/merged into ChanServ
15:23.24DocScrutinizer51but I understand ChanServ is set +D(eaf) to reduce load?
15:23.27mquinprobably not, ChanServ is in a lot more channels that Sigyn is, and can be only becasuse it's deaf (+D) and doesn't see channel messages
15:23.43DocScrutinizer51?nod?
15:23.51DocScrutinizer51:nod? even
15:23.53KotCzarnyso yeah, my guess is right
15:24.01DocScrutinizer51damn
15:24.06CatButtsimagines a hoarde of Iron Maidens roaming around IRC
15:24.07CatButtshttp://ledzep.tastyspleen.net/images/quake2/monsterdb/bitch.png
15:24.14KotCzarnysygin is chan limited becaise parsing so many channels might take it down
15:24.22DocScrutinizer51no
15:24.32DocScrutinizer51chan limit is per user
15:24.35KotCzarny*sigyn
15:24.52KotCzarnyChanServ is in a lot more channels that Sigyn is, and can be only becasuse it's deaf
15:25.13DocScrutinizer51parrots not needed ;)
15:26.14KotCzarnymquin: am i right or there is another reason that sigyn is not staying?
15:26.25DocScrutinizer51ChanServ has special permissions to be in so many channels, unlike normal users like sigyn
15:26.32mquinKotCzarny: I don't know
15:26.59DocScrutinizer51...or infobot
15:27.42DocScrutinizer51mquin: is the 120 limit per nick or per account?
15:27.51mquinDocScrutinizer51: per connection
15:27.54DocScrutinizer51or per IP?
15:27.57DocScrutinizer51aah
15:29.22DocScrutinizer51wonders if its a coiincidence that infobot is in exactly 120 chan with THREE nicks and supposedly THREE connections
15:29.39DocScrutinizer51~+chaninfo
15:29.39infobot120/120 channels, 2885 users, 2080 unique: #kde/628, #devuan/242, #gsoc/231, #asterisk/180, #maemo/139, #wowuidev/118, #oe/113, #neo900/90, #wowace/83, #arm-netbook/53, #bzflag/46, #harmattan/45, #elinux/45, #asterisk-dev/42, #qi-hardware/41, #curseforge/41, #cubieboard/40, #openmoko/39, #utah/37, #meego/37, #maemo-ssu/33, #wowhead/31, #openmoko-cdevel/31, #webos-internals/28, #brlcad/24, #slug/21, #uphpu/20, ##lds/16, #debianppc/15, #gllug/14, ...
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15:30.27DocScrutinizer51nicks are infobot, apt, purl
15:32.26DocScrutinizer51~+chanset autojoin
15:32.26infobotShowing autojoin values on all channels...
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15:32.54DocScrutinizer51mquin: ^
15:33.05mquinwhat am I looking at?
15:33.39DocScrutinizer51infobot in 120 channels despite 3 connections
15:34.08DocScrutinizer51mquin: could you check?
15:37.19DocScrutinizer51mquin: either it's coincidence, or Tim messed up his bot so it's not using 3 connections, or the info 'per connection' doesn't apply for infobot
15:38.20DocScrutinizer51mquin: would it help diagnose when I make infobot join a 121st chan?
15:38.30mquinDocScrutinizer51: /whois those nicks
15:38.54DocScrutinizer51I did a 1000 times
15:39.03DocScrutinizer51what should I look for?
15:39.41DocScrutinizer51I don't see connections, Im not staff ;)
15:39.55mquinnone of them are in anywhere near 120 channels
15:40.03DocScrutinizer51yep
15:40.09DocScrutinizer51thats my point
15:40.32mquinso it's either conincidental, or the bot has it's own limit that's been set to 120 as well
15:40.32DocScrutinizer51but in total they are exactly 120
15:40.50DocScrutinizer51ok many thanks
15:40.54DocScrutinizer51:)
15:43.12DocScrutinizer51~join #testtst
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15:43.34*** part/#maemo Sigyn (sigyn@freenode/utility-bot/sigyn)
15:43.51DocScrutinizer51~+chaninfo
15:43.51infobot121/121 channels, 2890 users, 2083 unique: #kde/627, #devuan/241, #gsoc/232, #asterisk/180, #maemo/140, #wowuidev/118, #oe/114, #neo900/90, #wowace/83, #arm-netbook/53, #harmattan/46, #bzflag/46, #elinux/45, #qi-hardware/42, #asterisk-dev/42, #cubieboard/41, #curseforge/41, #openmoko/39, #meego/37, #utah/37, #maemo-ssu/33, #openmoko-cdevel/31, #wowhead/31, #webos-internals/28, #brlcad/24, #slug/21, #uphpu/20, ##lds/16, #debianppc/15, #gllug/14, ...
15:45.57DocScrutinizer51~+part #testtst
15:46.27DocScrutinizer51~part #testtst
15:46.44DocScrutinizer51~+chaninfo
15:46.44infobot121/121 channels, 2889 users, 2083 unique: #kde/627, #devuan/241, #gsoc/232, #asterisk/180, #maemo/140, #wowuidev/118, #oe/114, #neo900/90, #wowace/83, #arm-netbook/53, #harmattan/46, #bzflag/46, #elinux/45, #asterisk-dev/42, #qi-hardware/42, #curseforge/41, #cubieboard/41, #openmoko/39, #utah/37, #meego/37, #maemo-ssu/33, #openmoko-cdevel/31, #wowhead/31, #webos-internals/28, #brlcad/24, #slug/21, #uphpu/20, ##lds/16, #debianppc/15, #gllug/14, ...
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15:47.43DocScrutinizer51weird, she parted but still claims 121 chan
15:47.53DocScrutinizer51~+chaninfo
15:47.53infobot121/121 channels, 2890 users, 2082 unique: #kde/626, #devuan/240, #gsoc/232, #asterisk/180, #maemo/141, #wowuidev/118, #oe/114, #neo900/91, #wowace/83, #arm-netbook/53, #harmattan/47, #bzflag/46, #elinux/45, #qi-hardware/42, #asterisk-dev/42, #cubieboard/41, #curseforge/41, #openmoko/39, #utah/37, #meego/37, #maemo-ssu/33, #openmoko-cdevel/31, #wowhead/31, #webos-internals/28, #brlcad/24, #slug/21, #uphpu/20, ##lds/16, #debianppc/15, #gllug/14, ...
15:48.15DocScrutinizer51~useless
15:48.15infobotACTION starts crying and hides from docscrutinizer51 in the darkest corner of the room. :(
15:48.35DocScrutinizer51cheers, I'm afk
15:49.24DocScrutinizer51mquin: many thanks again
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16:01.11DocScrutinizer51mquin: re sigyn - if she would auto-part after e.g. 10min any channels she got /invited, that might help a lot making her available when needed aka when a spam attack in a channel
16:14.03DocScrutinizer51<PROTECTED>
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16:53.37CatButtscautiously pokes Sigyn
16:54.11SigynCatButts: 01110001001001
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16:58.14CatButtswhat do I even decode that to?
16:58.36CatButtsthere's barely enough bits to go in a short
16:59.12CatButtsunless you are telling me to put on my shorts
17:10.28siceloare you able to access mobile.twitter.com from your N900?
17:15.30CatButtswhy, is it doing fancy eliptic curve ssl?
17:15.59siceloi wish i knew.
17:17.06CatButts>RSA
17:17.12CatButtsdoesn't look like it
17:17.33siceloor problem is with ISP, i really have no idea. that's why i'd be obliged if you could test on yours
17:17.58CatButtsa'ight, I'll give it a go
17:18.21sicelothank you very much
17:18.54CatButtswhat browser are you using?
17:19.02CatButtsis it default MicroB?
17:20.42sicelomicrob, opera mobile, and fennec
17:21.00CatButtsI will only try former 2
17:21.19sicelosure
17:21.20CatButtsBOOT DAMNIT, BOOT
17:24.11CatButtswhat are your symptoms for accessing the page, sicelo
17:24.56sicelonothing happens :-)
17:25.05sixwheeledbeast7241?
17:25.05sicelono error, nothing at all
17:25.24CatButtsWEARING NOTHING AT ALL
17:26.02CatButtsin MicroB, I am greeted with login page
17:28.05sicelothanks CatButts. must be ISP then
17:28.16sicelowill try ssh tunnel
17:29.49CatButtsOpera Mobile passes as well
17:31.21siceloyes! works fine via ssh tunnel. weird ISP
17:43.41CatButtsput penis in ISP
17:44.16Vajbcould you be more specific CatButts?
17:44.55Vajbor isp is yet another slang term for something :)
17:45.05CatButtsunzips pants with his fly out and approaches sicelo's ISP with confidence
17:45.18CatButtsgets jailed for public indecency
17:45.22CatButtsah, that
17:45.32CatButtsISP is Internet Service Provider
17:46.20CatButtsit's slang for "he who delivers you Internet access if you pay them"
17:46.40Vajbyes. Im having hard (in lag of better word) time figuring how that would happen...
17:47.23Vajbhmm maybe it boils down to manager of the providing company then
17:48.42siceloit also doesn't make sense to me ... maybe a glitch or something
17:48.42CatButts[19:46] <Vajb> yes. Im having hard (in lag of better word)
17:48.46CatButtshehe, lag
17:51.09CatButtsI should feel bad for writing Java to use on my n900 :p
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