IRC log for #maemo on 20171228

00:28.00timelesslooks for someone who understands systemd :-(
00:35.08varuhands timeless a pristine copy of goldie's 1995 album bearing their nick, a pie, a carton of eggs, several rolls of toilet paper, and poettering's home address
00:40.47timelessthanks...
00:41.09timelessgoes off to figure out why a directory that only needed 40GB on one volume needed 50+GB on another
00:41.43timelessoh
00:41.45timelessdoh.
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01:19.05*** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~lf (or ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher) sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet
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05:53.57vahehi #maemo https://bpaste.net/show/35bc10311fbf
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07:27.07sicelovahe[m]: what's that?
07:33.37vahesicelo: I wanted to know something, but not necessary now)
07:33.39vahethanks
07:34.04vahecan help to install matrix for pidgin? ))
07:35.02vahesicelo: https://bpaste.net/show/7d692109c7af )
07:39.40vaheor tell me how how to use the matrix https://matrix.org/
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08:51.37bencohvahe: pretty sure you already asked for that .... I even built the purple-matrix plugin back then ...
08:51.44bencohhttp://muarf.org/~bencoh/maemo/
08:52.07bencohno idea whether it should work, nor how
08:55.14vahebencoh: Yes you are right I asked but as if this thought gives me peace :(
09:04.38CatButtsinteresting, bencoh
09:04.39CatButtshttp://muarf.org/~bencoh/maemo/720p/hdcodecs/
09:04.50CatButtsdo I dare try them without instructions?
09:04.51CatButts:P
09:05.49bencohI think you can
09:22.32vahebencoh: sorry ,my friend, i did not understand a bit, what do you suggest?
09:23.23vahepurple-protocol-telegram_1.2.6-1_armel.deb I see there is a plugin for telegramm
09:23.36vahemaybe it's possible?
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10:17.21vahebencoh: you mean libmatrix:.so?
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10:35.19bencohvahe: yes, and it doesn't work
10:35.34bencoh(I tested it a few minutes ago)
10:35.55vaheaha thanks
10:37.25bencohjson-glib misses json_path_query on maemo
10:37.46bencohwhich leads to undefined reference when trying to load/bind the libhangouts.so plugin
10:38.35bencohfunny thing is all this stuff stayed open for months in a screen on my server :)
10:42.54vahe:D
10:43.41vahebencoh: can I ask you what repo are you using now?
10:43.51CatButtshey guise, I'm bored, what fun thing should I do to justify my N900's existence?
10:44.03CatButtshttp://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/watercolour_failbutts.PNG I tried drawing, but that didn't work out too well
10:44.09KotCzarnyor whatever it was called
10:44.24KotCzarnyn900-fly
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10:44.58CatButtslol
10:45.23CatButtsexpensive tossing brick :P
10:45.46bencohCatButts: some TMO user was pretty skilled with drawing on n900
10:46.02CatButtsyes, the myPaint thread
10:46.13CatButtsI am just a drawling at the moment
10:46.39CatButtsalso, I never got along with myPaint
10:46.55CatButtsso I have this butchered-up Shi-Painter
10:47.05bencohhmm, I was referring to the "look what I draw" thread
10:47.16CatButtsyes
10:47.19CatButtsthat one
10:47.35CatButtsI am going back in time in it
10:47.46CatButtsoh, that reminds me
10:47.54CatButtsis PenPen opensource?
10:48.43CatButtsit's an infinite canvas vector draw tool meant to replace N900's sketching app
10:49.11CatButtsit's cludgy, but I feel that with a few adjustmentations, it will become competent application
10:51.28CatButtsThere's also sheepdraw
10:51.47CatButtsbut it has sever offset problems for stylus input
10:52.04CatButtsI wonder if thread uploader still works
10:52.17CatButtsI'd like to necro the sheepdraw thread
10:52.27CatButtsfrom within the app
10:52.53CatButtsit will have been a crowning achievement
10:53.01CatButts*severe
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10:54.11vahetell me how to reinstall the OS without father data?
10:54.28KotCzarnyfather data?
10:54.34vahedon't want to lose photo video )
10:54.48KotCzarnyyou mean 'without losing user data' ?
10:54.52vaheaha yes
10:55.17KotCzarnyi think you flash vanill without emmc
10:55.27vaheI'm a little broke OS :D
10:55.46KotCzarnybut best is to just copy your data onto sdcard
10:55.53KotCzarnyor computer (via usb)
10:56.26vaheyeah, it's just not included the phone
10:56.59CatButtshttp://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/legwarmercat.PNG yeah, I don't think I am going to be posting in the 'look what I draw' thread anytime soon :P
10:57.15vaheKotCzarny: where you can now download OS?
10:58.53KotCzarny~flashing
10:58.54infobotit has been said that maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing
10:59.25vahethanks
10:59.54vahe<PROTECTED>
10:59.54infobotmethinks lazyflashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach
11:01.34vaheKotCzarny: that is, to install only vanilla?
11:01.54KotCzarnyas i've said, backup data to sdcard or computer to be sure
11:02.02KotCzarny(and it's always good to have a backup)
11:03.53vaheKotCzarny: and then I told you but if the phone is not included?:)
11:04.28vaheonly RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin yes?
11:04.29KotCzarnytry writing your original question in google translate then pasting the result of translation here
11:04.48KotCzarnybecause i didnt understand it
11:05.25vahedoes not turn on
11:05.32vahesorry )
11:05.47KotCzarnymaybe it's just flat battery?
11:06.36vaheno, I inadvertently ruined a reset kernel
11:07.47vaheI accidentally)
11:08.49KotCzarnymaybe then: http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#Flashing_only_the_kernel_from_a_FIASCO_image_.28expert_topic.21.29 ?
11:09.22KotCzarnybut that wont work if you had power kernel or cssu
11:09.48vahecool idea
11:15.24vahenow I'll try
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11:21.14vaheYES!
11:21.26vaheKotCzarny: https://bpaste.net/show/8b08341744c5 thanks man
11:21.37KotCzarnynow make those backups
11:22.05vahethat's for sure
11:22.06vahe)]
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13:42.45vahehttp://maemo.cloud-7.de/ sacred place for owners of Maemo :D
13:43.06vahelook at all interesting )
13:43.19CatButtsrubs his eyes
13:43.24KotCzarnyno, you think about everything on maemo.org
13:43.42KotCzarnytalk.maemo.org, wiki.maemo.org
13:57.32vaherescueOS what is this OS?
13:59.17sixwheeledbeast~rescueOS
13:59.17infobotrescueos is probably http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/
14:00.26sixwheeledbeastMaybe this is more informative https://github.com/quitesimpleorg/N900_RescueOS/blob/master/documentation.txt
14:02.40vaheno(
14:03.48vahesixwheeledbeast: thanks) rescue solution? anyone have a screenshot of the video ?
14:08.43vaheI have 2 N900-one want to do a clean LinuxOSis it possible? without chroot, direct connection , that's why they are interested in rescueOS
14:09.17KotCzarnyyes, but you will have problems with gsm(voice) part
14:09.20sixwheeledbeast"clean LinuxOS"?
14:09.41KotCzarnyswb: i suspect he wants some generic distro without maemo
14:12.55vahesixwheeledbeast: for example debian os
14:12.59vahegentoo os
14:13.37vaheI'm a fan of Maemo, but I have 2 and I want to do with Linux
14:13.47vaheI'm also a fan of gentoo
14:14.07sixwheeledbeastclosed blobs on the device make it difficult to have full functionality
14:14.07vahehttp://maemo.cloud-7.de/NIN101_N900_rescue_os/nin101.uni.cx/n900-new/206.253.166.96/N900/debian/setup.txt
14:15.01vahesixwheeledbeast: well, at least some , for example I need only wifi and OS
14:15.59vaheit is clear that completely impossible, but I need to surprise friends :D so I will limit myself to at least half of the functionality
14:16.17vahethis link is working as you think?
14:16.51sixwheeledbeastIt's possible look at https://github.com/dderby/debian900 as one example.
14:18.38vaheThanks sixwheeledbeast , and thanks to all who helped me) I today goal day test my knowledge and phone
14:18.52vaheonce even almost killed the phone )
14:19.59vahethere is a good community , good luck to all )
14:22.42CatButtshttp://maemo.org/packages/view/penpen/ so close, yet so fart
14:25.04CatButtshttp://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/PenPen_testbutt.png NSFLWIDT
14:25.21CatButtsusable if you don't plan on ever erasing any stroke
14:34.45bencohvahe: you can run devuan with a mainline kernel
14:35.01bencohthere's a wiki page about it
14:35.58vahehttps://wiki.maemo.org/Devuan_on_N900
14:36.15vaheaha thanks bencoh i need read that
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14:39.44vahebencoh: console only ?
14:41.10bencohI suppose you can use Xorg with omapfb or omapdrm as well
14:41.26bencohI think it should work
14:42.43vaheaha ok
14:43.11vaheI have a stupid question ) for example
14:43.20vahe`I first cloned mainline (or rather stable) kernel: '
14:43.51vahethis process is done in the phone ? or on my PC
14:43.59vahebencoh: * :)
14:44.17bencohpc
15:40.43freemangordonvahe: there is devuan jessie n900 image
15:42.10freemangordonhttps://devuan.org/index.html#download
15:43.44CatButtsmemory tels me it is CLI only, yes?
15:44.10freemangordonyes, but repos are enabled so you can easily install lxde or xfce or whatever
15:44.27freemangordonor leste ;)
15:45.10CatButtsinteresting
15:45.23vaheI was hard for all of this , I don't understand how it all works
15:45.49CatButtsis it usable by chroot switch or do I have to do the... errrrr... what was that thing called
15:45.50freemangordonvahe: just grab the devuan image and write it to uSD card
15:45.54vaheI don't understand, where or what to copy
15:45.57CatButtsrescue OS?
15:46.23freemangordonvahe: https://mirror.leaseweb.com/devuan/devuan_jessie/embedded/devuan_jessie_1.0.0_armhf_n900.img.xz
15:46.43vaheokay, I have a 2GB SD card, free phone for testing
15:47.15freemangordonhmm, not sure if 2GB will be enough, don;t remember the image size
15:47.23freemangordonbut it might be
15:47.47freemangordonvahe: you would need to install u-boot on n900 (in maemo) as well
15:47.52vaheand my operating system of my laptop is funtoo OS  (gentoo)
15:47.56vahehow it can be installed directly in 32GB Nokia? :D
15:48.10vahesay direct connect
15:48.19freemangordonvahe: should not matter, any modern OS should be capable of writing image to uSD
15:48.31vaheok :)
15:48.59freemangordonvahe: you can't install it to 32GB internal flash
15:49.16freemangordonat least not easlily
15:49.27vaheready downloaded
15:49.32freemangordonit is prepared to boot from uSD
15:49.49freemangordonok, boot your n900 in maemo and install u-boot (from Application Manager)
15:50.05freemangordonin the meanwhile write that image to uSD card
15:50.15vahei want try 2GB if not 4GB buy tomorrow
15:50.16vahe:)
15:50.26vaheu-boot, done
15:50.34CatButtswhat is size requirement for the image?
15:50.37CatButtsI have 2gm
15:50.40CatButts*2gb
15:50.42freemangordoncan;t remember :)
15:50.55freemangordonshould suffice
15:50.56vahe155mb
15:51.03CatButtscan it be mounted as an image file directly?
15:51.05freemangordonno, it is 155MB compressed
15:51.09CatButtswithout writing to SD?
15:51.13freemangordonyes
15:51.30vahe162
15:51.34vahe162mb :)
15:51.47freemangordonit has partition table, etc, so it can be mounted as loopback device
15:51.58freemangordonvahe: this is compressed size
15:52.14vaheno
15:52.17freemangordonuncompress it to see the real image size
15:52.27vaheuncompress 162.3mb
15:52.27KotCzarnydecompressing xz on n900 isnt fun, so use your pc
15:52.42freemangordonyes, on the pc
15:52.58freemangordonis downloading the image
15:53.21vaheimage done
15:53.27vahenext?
15:53.30vahedd?
15:53.31freemangordonhow bit it is?
15:53.40vahe162mb uncompress
15:53.44CatButts1.3gb
15:53.56freemangordonvahe: don't you have GUI on that PC?
15:54.05vaheyes mate-desktop
15:54.22freemangordonthere is a tool called "disk image writer" under ubuntu
15:54.34CatButtswhat precautions should I take with u-boot?
15:54.35freemangordoncan't help with gentoo or whatever it is :)
15:54.38KotCzarnyetcher
15:54.47freemangordonCatButts: ?!?
15:54.49vaheI can write with dd
15:54.52CatButtsI have cssu-testing and power kernel installed
15:54.53KotCzarnyit's nice because it also verifies writes
15:55.09CatButts*precautions with installing u-boot
15:55.10freemangordonKotCzarny: not really good idea for uSD writes
15:55.27freemangordonCatButts: usual, don;t if you have no clue :)
15:55.36KotCzarnyfmg: you should talk to tkaiser one day, would be fun :>
15:55.38CatButtsTOO LATE
15:55.47freemangordonKotCzarny: about?
15:56.07KotCzarnyabout etcher, and i guess embedded in general
15:56.14freemangordon~etcher
15:56.17vahedd if=devuan_jessie_1.0.0_armhf_n900.img of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=64K ; sync
15:56.23vahesame
15:56.38KotCzarnydon't mind me, it's humorous (he is very vocal expressing his views)
15:56.39freemangordonshould do the job I guess
15:57.07KotCzarnyin armbian they have had lots of people with sh*tty sd card and sd writers
15:57.16freemangordonKotCzarny: I vaguely remember seeing that nick, but can't really recall in what regard
15:57.26KotCzarnythat's why he is stuck on etcher vs dd
15:57.39freemangordonah
15:58.28freemangordonwell, I tend to always buy expensive (and presumably quality) cards and expect the others to behave like that :)
15:58.51KotCzarnyhehe, try kingston class 4 one day, or some fake ;)
15:59.10freemangordonI doubt I will buy kingston for the next 10 years
15:59.15freemangordon;)
15:59.27freemangordonsammy or sandisk only
15:59.33KotCzarnyyup
15:59.41freemangordonand even then you should be careful
15:59.43KotCzarnya1/a2 class are interesting nowadays
15:59.49KotCzarnyfor running os from sd
16:00.11KotCzarnysequential read often suck, but random io isnt bad
16:00.29freemangordonwhich is better than the opposite ;)
16:01.25KotCzarnyhttp://31.135.195.151:20280/notes/iozone-benchmarks/sandisk-ultra-16gb-squar-thinkpad-x40-usb2-reader.txt
16:01.38KotCzarnythis is benchmark of ~12usd sandisk a1
16:01.41KotCzarny16gb
16:01.51KotCzarnysee 4k random writes
16:02.21freemangordonyeah, not bad
16:03.23CatButtshmmm
16:03.28CatButtscan't install uboot
16:03.44freemangordonCatButts: why?
16:04.05CatButts"!!!U-Boot with kernel 2.6.28-omap1 breaks the 3rd party package policy"
16:04.13vahehttps://spyurk.am/posts/4d574170edf6013484f0746d04923301 :D my phones
16:05.09freemangordonCatButts: install u-boot for kernel-power
16:05.27freemangordonchecks
16:06.32freemangordonCatButts: install kernel-power-bootimg first
16:06.41CatButtsdid
16:06.54freemangordonand u-boot still refuses to install?
16:07.25CatButtsyes
16:07.33CatButtsmaybe I need reboot
16:07.36freemangordontry with apt-get -s install u-boot-flasher u-boot-tools and pastebin the result
16:07.57freemangordonh,, where is Pali
16:08.01freemangordon~seen Pali
16:08.03infobotpali <~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 57d 18h 36m 36s ago, saying: 'ok'.
16:08.11freemangordonwhat?!?
16:08.19KotCzarnytime flies..
16:08.34freemangordon:(
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16:10.40MaemoButtsmeow
16:12.34MaemoButtshttps://pastebin.com/vXTQshXZ
16:12.53MaemoButtsresluts
16:13.20freemangordonI don;t see a problem here
16:13.27freemangordonare you sure you're on kernel-power?
16:13.37freemangordonmay I have your uname -a output?
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16:14.42MaemoButtsuname -a
16:15.36CatButtserrrr
16:15.41CatButtsI think that misspasted
16:15.43CatButtslol
16:16.07CatButtsuname -a\nYada yada yada
16:16.45MaemoButtsLinux Nokia-N900 2.6.28.10-power53 #1 PREEMPT Wed Dec 10 13:52:39 UTC 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux
16:17.02freemangordonlooks ok
16:17.18CatButtsso why is package yelling at me?
16:17.20freemangordoncould you try to install it again from HAM and pastebin HAM log?
16:17.39CatButtshow do I get hold of HAM log?
16:17.47freemangordonfrom HAM menu
16:18.13freemangordonthere is "Log" in there
16:18.29CatButtsgot it
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16:20.47CatButtshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgWn7zbgxZ4&t=38s hold this while I tinker
16:22.07CatButtsthere's not much to it
16:22.43CatButtsapt-worker: u-boot-flasher breaks 3rd party dependencies policy:
16:24.02freemangordonand...?
16:24.07freemangordonwhat next
16:24.42CatButtsdoesn't say anything after that line
16:25.16freemangordondid you have uninstalled stock kernel modules by chance?
16:25.25freemangordon*uninstall
16:26.02freemangordonhowever (re perfect tense)
16:26.33CatButtsscratches head
16:26.45freemangordoncheck in /lib/modules
16:27.00CatButtswhat am I looking for?
16:27.01freemangordonor dpkg -l | grep kernel
16:27.06freemangordonomap1
16:29.08freemangordonCatButts: do you have kernel-modules installed?
16:30.23MaemoButtshttps://pastebin.com/7kN4hsDT
16:31.37MaemoButtsI do
16:32.18freemangordonMaemoButts: hmm, it is weird that you have kernel-flasher installed, I don;t have it on my device
16:32.53freemangordonalso, I don't have "kernel" package
16:33.05MaemoButtsit is a mistery
16:33.22freemangordonmaybe because I have kernel-cssu installed
16:33.37freemangordonand iirc it replaces kernel
16:33.37KotCzarnynot a mystery, you did bad things to your device and the result is unstable
16:33.49MaemoButtsmeow
16:33.53KotCzarnyextras-devel and cssu-devel come to mind
16:34.16MaemoButtsI have both enabled
16:34.23MaemoButtshides
16:35.25freemangordonMaemoButts: well, byte the bullet and install with apt-get
16:35.33KotCzarny'bite'
16:35.40freemangordonah, yes :D
16:35.44MaemoButtsI am tempted to go ahead with uboot ins... read my mind
16:36.52freemangordonKotCzarny: I guess this is some kind of developer's weirdness, dealing with bytes all the day (and most of the night) :)
16:37.16KotCzarnyfmg, yeah, english is unnecesarily complicated
16:37.35MaemoButtsuboot flashed
16:38.10MaemoButtswish me luck on the reboot
16:38.33KotCzarnybets on him needing to reflash, anyone?
16:38.34KotCzarny;)
16:38.45freemangordonCatButts: did you set default kernel to KP?
16:39.17CatButtsdunno, will check
16:39.19freemangordonjust in case:
16:39.22freemangordon~flashing
16:39.23infobotmethinks maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing
16:39.26freemangordon:p
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16:40.59MaemoButtsmeow
16:41.02KotCzarnyshucks, he lives
16:41.20CatButtslooks like, curiosity didn't kill the cat
16:41.22CatButtsyet...
16:41.52CatButtshmmmm
16:42.02CatButtsdefaults to stock kernel
16:42.06CatButtsI need to fix this
16:42.26CatButtsso I installed 'power kernel' for uboot
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16:43.18vaheguys, so, I installed u-boot, kernel-power "linux-kernel for power" and  "linux kernel user (boot image for U-boot)"
16:43.33CatButtsuname -a
16:44.04freemangordonCatButts: yes, it defaults to stock, you need to tell it to use kp by symlinking something in /etc/bootmenu (or similar) as default
16:44.39vaheLinux Nokia-N900 2.6.28.10-power53 #1 PREEMPT Wed Dec 10 13:52:39 UTC 2014 armv7l unknown
16:44.45vaheCatButts: *
16:45.17freemangordonvahe: did you reboot after installing?
16:45.55vaheyes
16:47.14vahesomething wrong?
16:47.21vahefreemangordon: * :)
16:47.42freemangordonok, power the device down, insert uSD card with devuan image, open the keyboard and poer it up
16:47.53freemangordonwhen you see u-boot menu, choose u-boot console
16:48.08freemangordonthen type "run sdboot"
16:48.08CatButts~uboot
16:48.08infobotN900 uBoot is a siamese twin binary [uBoot+stockMaemoKernel] that resides in kernel NAND partition /dev/mtd3 aka "kernel". You can't uninstall it, rather you'll nuke it when you flash/install another kernel like stock maemo kernel or powerkernel. To start other than stock maemo kernel via uBoot, you have to provide the according kernel image files, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81613
16:48.15CatButtsmmmm, siamese
16:49.42CatButtshttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81613 found the fucker
16:49.57CatButtsln -s /etc/bootmenu.d/20-Maemo5-kernel-power-2.6.28.10-power51.item /etc/default/bootmenu.item
16:49.58vahefreemangordon: power button and up? together?
16:50.19freemangordonvahe: no
16:50.26freemangordonjust power it
16:50.38freemangordonCatButts: yep, that one
16:50.49vahejust turn on Maemo
16:50.58freemangordonyes, but with keyboard open
16:51.07freemangordonyou should see u-boot menu
16:52.40vahestrange still turns on Maemo
16:52.55freemangordonthen you don;t have u-boot installed correctly
16:53.11freemangordonor rather - at all
16:53.23vaheaha possible
16:55.10CatButtswtf
16:55.15CatButtsmy date reset
16:55.53freemangordonCatButts: removed battery?
16:56.06CatButtsdon't remember doing so
16:57.30freemangordonvahe: how it is going?
17:00.54vahedon't know yet :D
17:01.14vaheright now, I'll try again
17:01.47vahefreemangordon: maybe img is not correct , but still should appear a menu right?
17:01.54freemangordonyes
17:03.53CatButtsfucker is still booting stock
17:04.40freemangordonCatButts: you should execute u-boot-update-bootmenu
17:04.46vahekilled OS :D
17:04.57freemangordonvahe: hmm?
17:05.00vahetoday for the second time
17:05.02vahe:D
17:05.14freemangordonwhat has happened?
17:05.55vaheno matter I have already copied to the computer
17:06.43vaheI removed the kernel and rebooted ) I'm an idiot :D
17:06.48CatButtswhat kernel version is this denuvan?
17:07.02freemangordon4.10 iirc
17:07.06vahethought stores stock :D
17:07.16CatButtsnice
17:07.43freemangordonCatButts: for sure it is 4.x, might be 4.8 or 4.9
17:07.45vahehehe
17:08.05freemangordonvahe: do you see u-boot menu?
17:08.10CatButtswhat's missing in terms of hardware support?
17:08.38vaheI killed the operating system has reinstalled the OS
17:08.51freemangordonCatButts: not sure, however, in upstream almost everything works, besides bluetooth, DSP and cameras
17:09.07CatButtsDSP?
17:09.14freemangordon~DSP
17:09.14infobotdsp is, like, (Digital Signal Processor) A DSP is a microprocessor designed to work with analog signals such as video or audio that have been digitally encoded. The DSP then takes these digital representations and performs operations on them. DSPs are used in video, sound, and modem technology. Intel's MMX instruction set is basically an attempt to make the Pentium processor line capable of DSP operations. This follows Intel's theory of putting all the ...
17:09.15CatButtsdoes that mean sound output?
17:09.33freemangordonDSP is DSP
17:09.39freemangordonit means DSP
17:10.35freemangordonCatButts: in omap3 DSP is http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/C64x%2B
17:10.50CatButtsno, I mean
17:11.07CatButtslack of support for it doesn't exclude sound output, yes?
17:11.20freemangordonyes, those are independent
17:11.24CatButtsgood
17:11.34CatButtssoftFP or hardFP?
17:11.57freemangordonthis is about userspace, not the kernel itself
17:12.06CatButtsyes
17:12.15CatButtsthe above denuvan
17:12.20freemangordonhardfp
17:12.34freemangordonBTW, it is "devuan" ;)
17:12.35CatButtsbueno
17:12.45CatButtsdevuvuan
17:13.18CatButtsmethinks 2gb will be woefully little for anything
17:13.52CatButtsI need a beefier SD
17:13.57freemangordonCatButts: you can use arm-sdk to build your own image
17:14.47freemangordonCatButts: https://github.com/dyne/arm-sdk
17:15.33CatButtsnot that hard into DIY yet
17:15.35CatButtslol
17:15.41CatButtsI am a windows peasant
17:15.47freemangordonah, poor you
17:16.17freemangordonactually building image with arm-sdk needs time only
17:16.29freemangordonotherwise it is a matter of 3 shell commands
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17:23.52bencohtelephony doesnt exactly work, it ... "works"
17:24.09bencoh(well, the kernel part works at least)
17:24.21freemangordonbencoh: yes, the question was about the kernel
17:24.24vaheI'm going to sleep the night will continue tomorrow)
17:24.43vahethanks freemangordon
17:25.13vahethanks all
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17:25.44CatButtswhoops
17:35.52CatButtsI think I've sorted everything
17:36.39CatButtsso, 2gb card will probably, somewhat maybe perhaps be usable for above devuan distro
17:40.19CatButtsso I just dd partition file into SDcard and pray I dd-ed to the right device
17:40.23CatButtsyes?
17:41.04freemangordonyes, though it is not a partition file, but disk image
17:46.09CatButtsmkay, I'mma go the lazy way without loopfiles
17:46.21CatButtswhat format is the partition in?
17:46.26CatButtswhich ext
17:46.52freemangordonCatButts: toldya, it is not a partition
17:47.08CatButtsoh
17:47.09CatButtsderp
17:47.12freemangordonit is a disk image containing too partitions
17:47.21freemangordon*two
17:47.33CatButtsis one swap?
17:47.41freemangordonno, it is FAT
17:47.49CatButtsand the other?
17:47.57freemangordonext3 or ext4
17:48.02freemangordonmost probably ext4
17:48.18CatButtsah, not gonna be accessible by my tool, then :P
17:48.25CatButtsI mean
17:48.34CatButtsaccessible by my driver in windows
17:48.39freemangordonyeah
17:50.10CatButtsthen I can run some decent applications, finally
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18:32.36CatButtswhere do I write my hdd image with dd?
18:34.08CatButtsdd if=myimage.img of=*********
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18:45.20CatButts/dev/mmcblk1p1
18:45.41CatButtswith a bit of luck
18:45.52CatButtsI didn't set fire to anything :P
18:48.03freemangordonCatButts: not /dev/mmcblk1p1, but /dev/mmcblk1, assuming it is the correct device
18:48.24CatButtshmmmmmm
18:48.31CatButtsoh shit
18:48.36CatButtsso I stop it now?
18:49.16CatButtsright
18:49.33CatButtsstarting over
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18:57.41CatButtsdoes maemo have pv?
18:57.52CatButtscan't check now, sadly
18:58.40CatButtsshould have piped dd into pv
18:58.51CatButtsso I can see progress
18:58.56KotCzarnykillall -USR1 dd
18:59.05CatButtsno way
18:59.13KotCzarnydo it.
18:59.17CatButtswhy?
18:59.28KotCzarnyjust do it.
18:59.35sicelo:-)
18:59.58CatButtsI demand an explanation
19:00.11KotCzarnyrtfm.
19:00.15siceloit will do what you want
19:00.20varuprints a progress bar, put it in a while loop with 'sleep 1' and enjoy
19:00.31CatButtsah, derp
19:00.41CatButtsstops dd
19:00.53varu....why?
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19:01.00siceloso i take it the devuan image contains the kernel within itself?
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19:05.53CatButtsE: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
19:06.24CatButtsE: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
19:06.29CatButtshmmmmm
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19:22.13CatButtsno 'pv', no fun
19:22.27CatButts[20:59] <KotCzarny> killall -USR1 dd
19:22.30CatButtsdidn't work
19:22.38CatButtsor I used it improperly
19:25.09CatButtsah, I see
19:25.23CatButtsit requires a 2nd terminal
19:25.56varuyeah, output spits out in the one where dd's running
19:29.37CatButtsah, so it does that WITHOUT killing dd
19:31.17varuhttp://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Miscellaneous-Signals.html
19:32.01CatButtsI see it meow
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19:34.52Wikiwidehildon-mime-summon is an interesting project. It has source code and Makefile, auto-builder didn't fail it, and yet compiled package contains only documentation, not the binary itself. Could some Makefile knowing person take a look at it?
19:34.57Wikiwidehttp://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/source/h/hildon-mime-summon/hildon-mime-summon_1.0-1.tar.gz
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19:35.58WikiwideIt could be something as simple as "failed to put binary into /usr/bin/" or something
19:38.16WikiwideOr "didn't put make into list of builddepends". I am too rusty to actually figure out the problem with http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/source/h/hildon-mime-summon/hildon-mime-summon_1.0-1.tar.gz
19:42.22WikiwideActually, even source package does contain binary file in weird snx subdirectory, so here I go...
19:44.30WikiwideYay, it works! Works!
19:44.34CatButtshttps://imgur.com/jb0Uw7A this is hot
19:45.16Wikiwidehttps://i.imgur.com/jb0Uw7A.jpg
19:45.53CatButts[21:44] <shibiZdn>  Figure 2.2 shows variation of tensile strength for solder thickness in a
19:45.53CatButts[21:44] <shibiZdn> standard butt joint. Interestingly tensile strength of butt joints is greater than
19:45.53CatButts[21:44] <shibiZdn> that of bulk solder (3.5 kgf mm-2), also shown on the graph for reference
19:48.03Wikiwide/me objects to "solder a wire to PCB" on principle. Have seen it torn out way too many times, painful to connect back. Better to have some kind of reusable connection.
19:48.50WikiwideAlso, don't just chrome paint a metal, it doesn't last. Green rust grows, chrome paint peels off...
19:54.41CatButtshmmmmm
19:55.01CatButtsmy phone appears to have locked up during dd operation
19:55.45Wikiwide/me doesn't consider dd to be a routine operation
19:55.57WikiwideCan you ssh into it?
19:56.45WikiwideSometimes, GUI freezes, but everything else works. But there are many different kinds of lock-up...
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20:03.23CatButtscan't ssh into it
20:03.31CatButtsbecaue it's not connected
20:10.12CatButtsrebooted, lettuce try once more
20:19.57CatButtshopefully, on 5th try, I will have whole damned thing written to SD
20:20.21CatButtsinb4 I've written to wrong MMC
20:20.22CatButtslol
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20:39.20CatButtsyeeeeeeeeee
20:39.32CatButtsthe fucker finally finished writing to SD
20:45.07CatButtsgot into it
20:45.12CatButts>devuan login
20:45.30CatButtsis it blank or is it a specific password?
20:47.22CatButts~devuan
20:47.23infobotdevuan  https://devuan.org literally mirrors debian in realtime ("all the same") except replacing packages with systemd-dependencies, and it introduces its own themes and branding. Also see factoid (~/!)amprolla
20:48.55CatButtsI am a butt lost here
20:55.10Enrico_MenottiCatButts Hello, I wasn't reading until right now. I just happened to step here. I see >devuan login. Are you trying Devuan on the N900?
20:55.31CatButtsyes
20:55.45CatButtsI fired it up through uboot
20:56.07Enrico_MenottiOh did you follow the instructions on the Wiki on maemo.org? If you use uboot, maybe not.
20:56.35CatButtsI followed this chat here and my intuition
20:56.47CatButtsnow I am staring dumbly at a login prompt
20:57.04CatButtswhat's default usee and pass?
20:57.08CatButts*user
20:57.19Enrico_MenottiOk, that's perfectly fine. If you want, there's a page on the Wiki where some months ago I tried to report my trials with Devuan.
20:57.25Enrico_MenottiAnyway, try root/toor.
20:58.08CatButtsthere we go
20:58.17CatButtsbut, being root all the time
20:58.19CatButtseh
20:58.46CatButtsdoes it come with an unrooted user account?
20:58.53Enrico_MenottiI don't think so.
20:59.07CatButtsmkay
20:59.13Enrico_MenottiYou may try to ask on #devuan.
20:59.26Enrico_MenottiWhere did you get the system image?
20:59.30Enrico_MenottiAnd the kernel?
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21:00.26CatButtshttps://devuan.org/index.html#download
21:00.31CatButtsfrom here
21:00.43CatButtsthe embeded n900 one
21:01.23Enrico_MenottiOk, probably the reference person for that is parazyd .
21:01.32CatButtswrong
21:01.45Enrico_Menotti?
21:01.53CatButts[17:40] <freemangordon> vahe: there is devuan jessie n900 image
21:02.37CatButtswell, my first step is to get apt running
21:02.48CatButtsthen install a graphical interface
21:02.52Enrico_MenottiSo? freemangordon, as far as I know, was working on porting some Maemo things to Devuan. It was parazyd who was building system images.
21:03.10CatButtsshrugs
21:03.15Enrico_MenottiBut it's some time since I've been here. Things may have changed.
21:04.16Enrico_MenottiAbout apt, I don't remember whether I reported something related on the Wiki page, but I suggest you have a quick look at it. There's a lot of useful info.
21:04.45Enrico_MenottiAbout the graphical interface, this actually was taken care of by freemangordon , as far as I remember.
21:05.00Enrico_MenottiHe was porting the Hildon to Devuan, if I'm right.
21:07.19CatButtswhoops
21:07.28CatButtsI first need to connect to Internet
21:07.34CatButtsvia wireless
21:09.17Enrico_MenottiAgain, read the Wiki. Lots of info about this, if I'm right.
21:11.45Enrico_Menottihttps://wiki.maemo.org/Devuan_on_N900
21:14.12CatButts>apt-get install firmware-ti-connectivity
21:14.16CatButtsha
21:14.18CatButtsbut
21:14.23CatButtshow to download
21:14.29CatButtswithout internet1
21:14.31CatButts!
21:17.53CatButtshey Enrico_Menotti
21:18.02CatButtshow do I Internet?
21:18.32varumanually download the package, usb it over & and dpkg -i it in?
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21:19.18CatButtshmmmmm
21:19.26CatButtswindow
21:19.27CatButtss
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21:19.53CatButtsare you speaking from experience, varu?
21:20.08varuin terms of manually installing packages on debian-based systems before, yes lol
21:20.18CatButtsdoes this image have n900 stuff already prepared?
21:20.25varuwith the n900 you have quite a few ways to get the package on there too
21:20.37varui haven't tried devuan on the n900 though if that's what you're asking
21:20.49CatButtsah, bummer
21:21.52varun900 shenanigans on my end are put on hold until i get around to properly soldering that usb port back on.. the job i did didn't hold, need better tools or a better approach
21:22.30WikiwideHow do I tell ls to display not just filename, but full path to file?
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21:33.02Enrico_MenottiCatButts You can boot to Maemo, right?
21:33.17CatButtssure
21:33.54CatButtsfrom uboot to either Maemo or Devuan
21:35.30Enrico_MenottiSo I think the easiest thing is to boot Maemo, download the package, put it in some shared place, boot to Devuan, and installa the package.
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21:36.04CatButtsI have to ask first
21:36.13CatButtsis it already on there or not?
21:36.19CatButtson the image
21:36.26CatButtshow do I check
21:36.34CatButtswhat package to check for?
21:36.49Enrico_Menottiapt-cache policy firmware-ti-connectivity, maybe?
21:37.50CatButtsinstalled
21:38.05CatButtshow do I Internet
21:38.14CatButts*connect to Internet
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21:44.54Enrico_MenottiOk, so that package is installed, right?
21:45.11CatButtsyes
21:45.13Enrico_MenottiNow try to look the Wiki page. Many details to check.
21:47.26Enrico_MenottiTry lsmod first.
21:47.43Enrico_MenottiThis should show the loaded kernel modules.
21:48.19Enrico_MenottiThe required kernel module should be wl1251_spi.
21:50.04CatButts>can't type pipe symbol
21:50.06CatButtsrip
21:50.28CatButtsI wanted to try less
21:50.43Enrico_MenottiHa, that's a problem, actually.
21:51.25CatButtsholy shit, I found it
21:52.01Enrico_MenottiAh, ok. On the Wiki there's also some info about how to setup properly the keyboard for your national layout.
21:53.18Enrico_MenottiSo could you check the kernel module?
21:53.30CatButtstell me a command that outputs lots of text
21:53.49Enrico_MenottiSorry?
21:53.58CatButtsa few pages
21:54.14CatButtsI have vague feeling less is not working
21:54.39CatButtsoh, I've got nano
21:54.42CatButtsthat's good
21:54.51Enrico_MenottiDid you try lsmod?
21:54.58CatButtsfuck it, I'm gonna pipe lsmod to a text file
21:55.10Enrico_MenottiOk.
21:55.47Enrico_MenottiBut less should be working. You're on Devuan console, right? So it's bash, right?
21:56.20Enrico_MenottiAnd more? Is that working?
21:56.30CatButtsbashes head
21:58.42Enrico_Menotti?
22:00.22CatButtspipes less' output into more
22:00.31CatButtsI think I need to reboot
22:00.32CatButts:P
22:00.50CatButtsLESS IS MORE, YES BABY
22:01.45Enrico_MenottiSorry, I'm not sure what you're doing. Did you do a less|more?
22:01.53CatButtsyis
22:01.57Enrico_Menotti:)
22:02.03Enrico_Menottilsmod|more
22:02.14CatButtsor was it more|less
22:02.17CatButtsmore or less...
22:02.26Enrico_MenottiApproximately.
22:02.45CatButtsI need to exit more
22:02.57CatButtsfor I cannot take anymore
22:03.08CatButtsless patience
22:03.43Enrico_MenottiOk, but in the end, what's the situation?
22:04.44CatButtsit's like this
22:04.47CatButts~
22:04.55CatButts(END)
22:05.51CatButtsmore or less
22:05.55CatButtswhichever
22:06.36CatButtsI escaped!
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22:06.38CatButtsq
22:07.44CatButtsyes Enrico_Menotti
22:07.49CatButtsI have the module
22:07.58Enrico_MenottiOk, fine.
22:08.05CatButtswl1251_spi
22:08.43Enrico_MenottiNow you have your local LAN router, right?
22:08.44Enrico_Menotti(Wireless Access Point, right?)
22:09.08CatButtsI have my trusty PC playing AP
22:09.20CatButtsstraight from its dong
22:09.25CatButts...dongle
22:09.39Enrico_MenottiAnd how is the PC connected to Internet?
22:09.53CatButtsdoes it matter?
22:10.02Enrico_MenottiIt's just to figure out the situation.
22:10.24CatButtsinternet - wired router - PC - usb dongle Access Point
22:10.33CatButtsAP is WPA2 encrypted
22:10.52Enrico_MenottiOk, this is the important thing.
22:11.43Enrico_MenottiI'm not completely sure I remember right the names of the various protocols for Wireless Access, but I think WPA2 is exactly what I have at home.
22:12.08Enrico_MenottiIf things are this way, you can set up the wpa-psk protocol.
22:12.56CatButtsI'm scared, hold me tight
22:13.06Enrico_Menotti?
22:13.13CatButtsno homo
22:15.08Enrico_MenottiSorry, I don't understand what you're saying.
22:15.16CatButtsI was joking
22:15.33CatButts[00:12] <Enrico_Menotti> If things are this way, you can set up the wpa-psk protocol.
22:16.00CatButtsI am scared and I wish to hold you to feel reassured that nothing bad will happen
22:16.13CatButtsalso, no homosexuality is implied
22:16.43Enrico_MenottiHope so.
22:16.44Enrico_Menotti:)
22:16.53Enrico_MenottiNothing that difficult to do.
22:17.00Enrico_MenottiDon't fear.
22:17.35Enrico_MenottiTry apt-cache policy wpasupplicant.
22:17.57CatButtswhat I don't like about that wiki page is that it details steps from 0 to final
22:18.04CatButts0 being the sourcecode
22:18.19CatButtswhereas what we have here is readymade distro
22:18.52Enrico_MenottiYeah, I can understand.
22:19.08Enrico_MenottiI wrote that page to collect all info about what I did.
22:19.10CatButtswpasupplicant is in place
22:19.49Enrico_MenottiOk, for what follows it's better if you get into the relevant part of the Wiki page, so we see the same thing.
22:20.13CatButtsI am thinking of making another page
22:20.26CatButtsthat details steps from ready-made image
22:20.39CatButtsshall I collect steps?
22:22.21Enrico_MenottiIf you wish to, please do. Please consider asking DocScrutinizer05 for advice about how to organize things - is it better to create a new page or to re-organize mine?
22:23.00Enrico_MenottiAnyway, let's try to end the setup.
22:23.44Enrico_MenottiYou need the psk for your AP. It's a very long sequence, so it's not wise to write it by hand.
22:23.56Enrico_MenottiI think at this point the best thing is to boot Maemo.
22:29.31CatButtsI will write it in notepad
22:30.22CatButtshttp://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/devuan_steps.txt
22:30.39CatButtsthis is what I have so far
22:33.28Enrico_MenottiOk, fine. Yes, a quick guide for booting Devuan without building it from scratch is a nice thing, very useful.
22:33.47CatButtsso, what do I do meow?
22:34.17Enrico_MenottiYou need the psk.
22:34.30CatButtswhat's a psk?
22:34.43Enrico_MenottiI got it from a Devuan computer connected to the AP.
22:35.03CatButtsoh, pre-shared key
22:35.10Enrico_MenottiYes.
22:35.17CatButtsis it the password I gave my API?
22:35.20CatButts*AP
22:35.21Enrico_MenottiNo.
22:35.25CatButtsdang
22:36.01Enrico_MenottiI got it for my AP from a PC running Devuan.
22:36.08CatButtslet's assume for a second the psk is 'putpenisincat'
22:36.13Enrico_MenottiIt was connected to the AP.
22:36.13CatButtswhat meow?
22:37.23CatButtsI don't use WPS
22:37.35CatButtsthe fancy one-click setup
22:38.38CatButtsinb4 someone from #maemo wardrives to my home and connects to my AP :P
22:38.54CatButtsit's named Drunken Bitch
22:39.01CatButtslitteral bitch
22:39.02CatButts:P
22:39.18Enrico_MenottiThe psk comes from wpa_passphrase. You add the ssid of your AP, enter the passphrase (this is the password you gave to the API), and the command returns some info, among which the psk.
22:39.35Enrico_MenottiThis is why I think it's best to boot Maemo.
22:39.48Enrico_MenottiI hope wpa_passphrase is available in Maemo...
22:39.59CatButtslettuce see
22:40.43Enrico_MenottiIn busybox, actually.
22:44.56CatButtsno wpa_passphrase
22:45.20CatButtswhat meow
22:47.19CatButtsso you are saying the preshared key is not the same as the password I gave it
22:49.24CatButtsso, what do I do once I have the psk
22:51.03Enrico_MenottiAt that point it's quite simple.
22:51.10Enrico_MenottiYou just need a configuration file.
22:51.20Enrico_MenottiFor the wlan interface.
22:51.42Enrico_MenottiThat's detailed in the wiki, it's easier if you look there.
22:51.57Enrico_MenottiI think it's clearer there than it could be if I write here.
22:52.38CatButtswpa-ssid
22:52.50CatButtswhat does this look like?
22:55.21CatButtsis it an name
22:55.27CatButtsor some fancy string?
22:59.36Enrico_MenottiJust a minute, I have a doubt.
22:59.53Enrico_MenottiRight now my N900 is not handy, nor the Devuan PC, so I can't check my config file.
23:00.02Enrico_MenottiI'm looking over the Internet.
23:04.00Enrico_MenottiOk, I'm not sure I ever knew where the "ssid" acronym comes from. But the ssid should be simply the name of the network. See e.g. http://support.bell.ca/Internet/Connection-help/What-do-SSID-and-WPA2-mean. So I think in your case the ssid is "Drunken Bitch".
23:05.00Enrico_MenottiAlthough I'm feeling a bit uncomfortable with the space in the middle.
23:06.43CatButtsCateaua Beata
23:06.52CatButts:P
23:07.42CatButtshttps://learn.adafruit.com/adafruits-raspberry-pi-lesson-3-network-setup/setting-up-wifi-with-occidentalis
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23:13.28CatButtsok, so I have written this file, Enrico_Menotti
23:13.40CatButts/etc/network/interfaces.d/wlan0
23:14.02Enrico_MenottiOk, but we need a way to get the psk.
23:14.51CatButtsso it is not the password?
23:15.28WikiwideLooking for clamav for N900. Because 6yo brother is interested in viruses and antiviruses after seeing Windows XP laptop and hearing that it cannot be connected to Internet.
23:15.51CatButtsbullshit
23:15.57CatButtsI have win XP :P
23:16.48WikiwideYo, and how are you sure that viruses don't jump onto it?
23:17.19CatButtscommon sense, blocked ports
23:18.08CatButtsso, assuming I configured the wlan0 correctly
23:18.16CatButtshow do I connect
23:20.57WikiwideCommon sense, sure. Most websites have ads by now, and ads may include viruses... /etc/hosts blacklisting may help, and so may updated for WinXP-embedded-edition, but it's not a guarantee...
23:21.06Wikiwideupdates *
23:21.24CatButtsyeah well, I use POSReady 2009
23:21.40Enrico_MenottiCatButts If I remember correctly (and I'm quite sure it is so), there are: 1. SSID (the network name); 2. passphrase (the network password, usually quite short); 3. PSK. The PSK is quite long, up to 63 characters.
23:21.58CatButtsshit
23:22.43CatButtswell, let's run with original assumption
23:22.56CatButtshow do I connect with wlan0
23:22.59Enrico_MenottiAs I told you, I got the PSK from a separate device, connected to the AP, by the wpa_passphrase command, which takes as inputs the SSID and the passphrase, and gives info, among which the psk.
23:23.18Enrico_MenottiVery likely there are other means to find the psk.
23:23.42Enrico_MenottiProbably there's a way to find it on the PC where your dongle is located.
23:23.57Enrico_MenottiIn some configuration mask for the dongle.
23:24.09Enrico_MenottiBut I cannot help you here.
23:24.23Enrico_MenottiI was looking for a way to get the psk by using Maemo.
23:24.26CatButtsassuming I already know the psk
23:24.32CatButtshow do I connect
23:24.42Enrico_MenottiOk, a minute.
23:25.28Enrico_MenottiI did not report this in the Wiki, probably because the connection is automatic at boot.
23:25.50Enrico_MenottiIf you're already in, and you create the config file, try ifup wlan0.
23:27.27Enrico_MenottiYeah, I'm right, ifup wlan0. https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse.
23:27.42CatButtscannot read contents of yada yada wpa_supplicant.conf
23:29.19Enrico_MenottiWell, that is part of wpa_supplicant, I think.
23:29.33Enrico_MenottiSo it should be already ok.
23:29.45Enrico_MenottiTry pastebin this file somewhere. I can have a look.
23:30.06Enrico_MenottiAlthough it's getting late here and I'm starting to feel very sleepy.
23:34.48Enrico_MenottiCatButts Sorry, I really need to rest now. Maybe tomorrow I can help further.
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