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| 01:19.27 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~lf (or ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher) sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 12:33.39 | brolin_empey | Apparently VC.COM (VisiCalc for PC-DOS 1.x from 1981) still runs on Windows 10 for x86-32 from 2015. :-D Yes, it is off-topic but I had to try it. |
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| 15:30.03 | vahe1 | KotCzarny: you can help? :) https://lut.im/1faQ2iRID2/U92kozXGLuwHoLjR.png I started Maemo SDK but I have not found terminal |
| 15:30.36 | KotCzarny | i think it's the emulator, not sdk itself |
| 15:30.53 | KotCzarny | ie. the thing you can test your app |
| 15:31.34 | KotCzarny | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo5_Final_Installation |
| 15:31.39 | KotCzarny | here are some docs |
| 15:32.00 | KotCzarny | since you are using vm probably you can skip installation parts |
| 15:35.20 | vahe1 | KotCzarny: I download what you gave yesterday, just launched that and Maemo5 SDK https://lut.im/3mg2PYAN9A/wfnMqnd0RJWckaUJ.png |
| 15:36.17 | KotCzarny | click on applications there? should have terminal |
| 15:36.54 | vahe1 | Yes the first screen , no terminal |
| 15:37.14 | KotCzarny | no, first screen is running xephyr (ie. device emulator) |
| 15:37.28 | KotCzarny | the system in vm (not emulator) is the sdk |
| 15:38.16 | vahe1 | https://youtu.be/LcL-2I7F_zc?t=37s about this situation |
| 15:39.00 | vahe1 | I ran it in VirtualBox |
| 15:39.08 | vahe1 | maemosdk_desktop_lucid-36-2.vmdk |
| 15:39.45 | vahe1 | sorry, I bad speak English , don't get angry :D |
| 15:40.02 | KotCzarny | btw. once you run terminal and run /scratchbox/login it's all set, dont run xephyr, unless you want to test your compiled package |
| 15:40.40 | KotCzarny | having [sbox-FREMANTLE_armel: ~] means you are ready to compile |
| 15:40.56 | KotCzarny | by default you compile for emulator, ie. FREMANTLE_X86 |
| 15:41.36 | KotCzarny | see terminal at 0:07s in your video |
| 15:41.43 | KotCzarny | dont start af-sb-init.sh |
| 15:41.57 | KotCzarny | unless as i've said, want to test things |
| 15:43.18 | vahe1 | Yes it will be difficult :D |
| 15:44.28 | vahe1 | KotCzarny: that is, I don't need to run it on VirtualBox? (maemosdk_desktop_lucid-36-2.vmdk) |
| 15:44.40 | KotCzarny | you do need to start it in vm |
| 15:44.50 | KotCzarny | just you dont need to run that emulator part |
| 15:45.07 | KotCzarny | ie. you only go to terminal and run /scratchbox/login |
| 15:50.12 | vahe1 | realized for the test I need scratchbox ok |
| 15:50.57 | KotCzarny | there are 2 things |
| 15:51.18 | KotCzarny | 1/ sb, 2/ emulator (visible as xephyr) |
| 15:51.28 | KotCzarny | you compile things in sb |
| 15:51.48 | KotCzarny | and if you dont want to copy them over to device to run, you can test them in 2 |
| 15:52.59 | vahe1 | ok ) |
| 15:59.29 | vahe1 | KotCzarny: I understand everything) thank you very good explain |
| 15:59.34 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 15:59.52 | vahe1 | now it remains the most difficult to compile))) |
| 16:00.07 | vahe1 | don't even know what to download :D |
| 16:00.07 | KotCzarny | just the same as on any other debian-like system |
| 16:00.22 | KotCzarny | so learn linux basics |
| 16:00.27 | KotCzarny | not specific to maemo |
| 16:00.42 | KotCzarny | maemo has few differences, but at first, learn the generics |
| 16:03.05 | vahe1 | ok ok thanks )) |
| 16:20.46 | vahe1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.46 | KotCzarny | remember, maemo is quite old |
| 16:24.23 | KotCzarny | having old kernel caps glibc version available, which in turn caps other libs |
| 16:24.39 | KotCzarny | usual solution is hacking source packages into something workable |
| 16:25.31 | KotCzarny | sometimes there are updated packages in extras-devel, but watch out for it, since it can contain untested software |
| 16:26.03 | KotCzarny | while it's not a big problem in vm, installing them on device might result in bootloop |
| 16:26.10 | KotCzarny | bbl |
| 16:29.23 | vahe1 | thanks ) |
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| 21:43.57 | sicelo | does anyone remember which /sys node tells you if N9000 detected a wall charger or USB cable? |
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| 21:52.33 | sicelo | found it |
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