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| 01:19.24 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~lf (or ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher) sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 05:42.57 | Oksana | T9 keypad has some nice features which aren't usually available with qwerty keyboard. Such as, speed dial, besides obviously easy entering of a phone number; one-press switch to silent mode, or out of it... |
| 05:44.05 | Oksana | Qwerty is better for two-thumb text typing, I guess. And T9 for one-hand number-typing. |
| 05:44.21 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 05:45.35 | KotCzarny | there are more sophisticated one finger keyboards though already |
| 05:46.48 | Oksana | laments lack of truly pocketable mobile phones, especially smart ones, in the recent years. Flip form-factor protects display from scratches better, and there are better ways to notify about incoming call than just one notification LED-dot - light effects isn't something commonly used... |
| 05:47.31 | Oksana | More sophisticated one finger keyboards? Which ones? :curious: Because I find it clumsy how letters are alphabetically placed on T9 keypad. |
| 05:48.10 | KotCzarny | check out swiftkey (though it might be only for android/ios) |
| 05:48.17 | Oksana | ABC: just look at boat vs coat, bat vs cat... |
| 05:48.53 | KotCzarny | hrm |
| 05:48.55 | KotCzarny | wrong name |
| 05:50.19 | Oksana | This one is interesting, and was made open-source? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptxt |
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| 05:52.22 | KotCzarny | darn, cant remember the name, but it was a small box with letter flying predicted by some algo |
| 05:52.41 | Oksana | Multi-tap I know, it's good for typing abracadabra freely. Wonder what kind of predicting adaptxt does... |
| 06:16.06 | KotCzarny | hah, found it 'dasher' |
| 06:16.16 | KotCzarny | http://www.inference.org.uk/dasher/ |
| 06:17.03 | KotCzarny | and it's opensource too |
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| 07:49.53 | sicelo | that dasher looks interesting, and weird too :-) |
| 07:50.52 | KotCzarny | any takers to make frontcam+dasher input plugin for n900? ;) |
| 07:52.18 | sicelo | i vote for KotCzarny :) |
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| 08:06.12 | bencoh | KotCzarny: eyetracking with the front cam? good luck |
| 08:06.44 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 08:06.50 | KotCzarny | who said it has to be an eye |
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| 15:52.59 | kristianpaul | pocketchip owners around? |
| 15:54.53 | KotCzarny | /me looks at the topic.. now on the question.. now on the topic again.. no? |
| 15:55.22 | bencoh | KotCzarny: aww, pfff |
| 15:55.35 | KotCzarny | if it has allwinner chip just go to #linux-sunxi though |
| 15:59.26 | KotCzarny | funny thing is nokia built similar setup almost 7 years earlier, and it had more features and was more pocketable |
| 15:59.35 | KotCzarny | (yes, n900) |
| 15:59.48 | kristianpaul | i know what a n900 is, what is your point KotCzarny ? |
| 16:02.51 | KotCzarny | kristianpaul: that n900 is better device in my opinion than pocketchip |
| 16:03.00 | KotCzarny | (specs wise too) |
| 16:03.38 | KotCzarny | one thing that p-chip has is mainline support. but it's only thanks to the hard work of the community |
| 16:08.11 | kristianpaul | oh sure, (better specs) |
| 16:08.32 | kristianpaul | i always wanted a n900 back then, just couldnt affor it :( |
| 16:08.44 | KotCzarny | yes, a13 is single core |
| 16:08.56 | KotCzarny | and n900 is overclockable to a13's speeds |
| 16:08.57 | kristianpaul | yeah, and thats horrible |
| 16:09.33 | KotCzarny | now you can, i bought my spares for ~20-30usd each |
| 16:09.38 | KotCzarny | in working conditions |
| 16:09.40 | kristianpaul | oh |
| 16:09.48 | kristianpaul | ebay or ? |
| 16:09.59 | KotCzarny | local classifieds site |
| 16:10.32 | KotCzarny | it was quite popular here, so many of them are available |
| 16:12.05 | KotCzarny | if you are new to the allwinner, you should also read linux-sunxi.org wiki |
| 16:12.37 | KotCzarny | lots of useful info |
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| 16:14.52 | kristianpaul | I'm trying to get some real value from the pocketchip.. just tought maemo has a great env for that |
| 16:15.49 | KotCzarny | maemo is much more than just window manager and few themes |
| 16:16.33 | KotCzarny | and while there is opensourcing going on (ie. porting it to a33 based tablets and mainline in general), it's still far from plain user's usecase |
| 16:17.15 | KotCzarny | pocket makes great mobile hacking/devel thingy |
| 16:17.35 | KotCzarny | but you should first think what you want to do, not the other way round |
| 16:17.35 | kristianpaul | yeah |
| 16:19.14 | sicelo | has just the chip sbc. haven't found enough time to play with it though |
| 16:19.35 | KotCzarny | sicelo: h3 or other? |
| 16:19.56 | sicelo | the $9 one, C.H.I.P |
| 16:20.06 | KotCzarny | ahm, c.h.i.p. not chip |
| 16:20.07 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 16:20.44 | sicelo | afaik pocketchip is C.H.I.P with just keyboard and display integrated? |
| 16:21.01 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 16:21.04 | KotCzarny | and i think battery |
| 16:22.32 | kristianpaul | ^ |
| 16:22.34 | kristianpaul | yes |
| 16:31.31 | bencoh | kristianpaul: battery-wise I understood back then that they still have to work on power management |
| 16:32.09 | bencoh | ie the thing is a real guzzler in idle |
| 16:32.37 | bencoh | (but I suspect it's a software issue) |
| 16:32.40 | kristianpaul | lol yeah |
| 16:32.50 | KotCzarny | on allwinner they arent really power efficient |
| 16:32.59 | KotCzarny | expect 100mA in idle |
| 16:33.02 | KotCzarny | or more |
| 16:33.06 | kristianpaul | but i've have it on for 4 hour straight |
| 16:33.15 | kristianpaul | idle is not that bad tbh |
| 16:33.26 | KotCzarny | ho hum |
| 16:33.33 | KotCzarny | maybe a13 is frugal |
| 16:33.43 | KotCzarny | might be, it's cut down in all areas |
| 16:33.52 | bencoh | from what I remember they only wfi, without gating cpu/soc (or even downscaling pll) |
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| 19:36.31 | CatButts | my files seem to be magically vanishing |
| 19:36.45 | CatButts | ever since I formated MyDocs to ext3 |
| 19:37.24 | CatButts | very spoopy |
| 19:37.32 | KotCzarny | self inflicted failure? |
| 19:37.48 | KotCzarny | mount ext3 with better journal option? |
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| 20:34.55 | CatButts | 1. ext2fsd for win + ext3 |
| 20:35.06 | CatButts | 2. folder permissions on the n900 |
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