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| 07:13.32 | Vajb | ok. Stuck with joy2key so i tried somehing else. As i told earlier I noticed that /dev/input/keypad is ln -s to dev/input/event1 and that when js0 appears even4 gets created. So i ln -s js0 to event4, but that is still missing something |
| 07:15.10 | Vajb | guess i need something to listen to event4 and passing that to keypad presses, but no idea where to look at |
| 07:16.39 | Vajb | in joy2key the problem is that it can't find the window to direct keypresses to -X doesn't work as an argument and anything else i tried wont work either. |
| 07:17.18 | KotCzarny | ho hum. you might try wmctrl to list the windows then pass the proper window to j2k |
| 07:18.05 | KotCzarny | there is also --scancodes option which might be doing something low level |
| 07:18.44 | Vajb | drnoksnes says it is wm class drnoksnes_startup, but j2k doesn't seem to accept anything but plain -X as window argument |
| 07:20.56 | KotCzarny | what does wmctrl -l says? |
| 07:21.29 | Vajb | wait me to install it first |
| 07:24.03 | Vajb | hildon-status-menu, desktop, lots of hildon-home, 6 times sticky notes widget, 9 times kuvat (pictures in english) and three time x terminal |
| 07:24.15 | KotCzarny | i meant with that emu running |
| 07:24.55 | Vajb | DrNokSnes |
| 07:25.09 | KotCzarny | try to copy paste it into j2k param |
| 07:25.20 | KotCzarny | keep in mind it might need to be the first param |
| 07:25.29 | Vajb | u mean while line? |
| 07:25.34 | Vajb | whole* |
| 07:25.36 | KotCzarny | no, just Dr.. |
| 07:25.40 | Vajb | k |
| 07:25.41 | KotCzarny | but case might matter |
| 07:26.36 | Vajb | but there is minor problem. I can't launch wmctrl -l when actual game is running coz it gets killed when ever i unfocus it |
| 07:26.47 | KotCzarny | use ssh? |
| 07:27.03 | Maxdamantus | `ln -s js0 event4` probably isn't useful. |
| 07:27.03 | KotCzarny | for now i would like to just try to make it work |
| 07:27.04 | Vajb | bah :) |
| 07:27.11 | Maxdamantus | js* and event* use different protocols. |
| 07:27.12 | KotCzarny | it could be made into script later |
| 07:27.32 | Maxdamantus | event* is a stream of `struct input_event`s .. js* is something else. |
| 07:28.11 | Vajb | ok i'll try and report back. Now im on my way so can't make any ssh stuff |
| 07:28.54 | Vajb | should i try -X Dr.... or -Dr...? |
| 07:29.04 | Vajb | or even X_Dr |
| 07:29.16 | KotCzarny | just joy2key "DrNokSnes" -someparams |
| 07:29.42 | Maxdamantus | js* is a stream of `struct js_event`s. |
| 07:30.55 | Maxdamantus | So unless some program figures out (by resolving the link, or figuring out the major/minor numbers of the open fd), it's just going to be interpreting nonsense if it opens a "js*" device when expecting an "event*" device or vice-versa. |
| 07:31.27 | Vajb | Maxdamantus: i just tried to copy what somethign which works, does :) |
| 07:32.01 | Maxdamantus | If you're not getting a "js*" device, it'll be because there's nothing in the kernel to create a js device from the input device. |
| 07:32.14 | Vajb | btw isn't gamepad with buttons kinda event device? |
| 07:32.24 | KotCzarny | yes, but js events |
| 07:32.47 | Maxdamantus | Yes, that's why there's usually an event device created as well as a js device. |
| 07:32.51 | Vajb | hmm so i might be missing something from the kernel too? |
| 07:33.06 | Maxdamantus | Different applications can interpret the data from different devices. |
| 07:35.34 | Vajb | when i connect that gamepad it creates js0 and event4 and when i do cat js0 i got jibberish when i press buttons so it works in some level |
| 07:36.34 | Maxdamantus | Okay. If you want a similar thing without jibberish, I suspect `jstest` should be in the maemo repositories .. I think it's part of some SDL package. |
| 07:37.49 | Maxdamantus | Hm, maybe not. |
| 07:37.55 | Vajb | yeah i have it. Failed to make it work and forgot it :D |
| 07:38.14 | Vajb | it is package joystick |
| 07:38.23 | Vajb | and it works with command jstest |
| 07:38.42 | Maxdamantus | Okay, guess my package lists are probably out of date. |
| 07:38.54 | Vajb | i installed and tried to figure how to fire it up, but i was already lost when i typed joy and hit tab |
| 07:39.10 | Maxdamantus | jstest /dev/input/js0 |
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| 07:39.24 | Maxdamantus | and it should just keep printing the state of the joystick to stdout. |
| 07:39.28 | Vajb | yes i know now :) |
| 07:40.00 | Vajb | but on my way to school so wont be able to test yet |
| 07:40.44 | Vajb | will report back in an 6 hours or so |
| 07:41.58 | Vajb | would be neat to make this work to prevent me of doing something usefull ;) |
| 07:43.05 | KotCzarny | hehe |
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| 07:51.33 | Vajb | oh now that i remember. Maemo pdf readers, which i've used, lack one key feature. They don't remember the page were reading |
| 07:52.08 | Vajb | i kinda like the way iPod does that |
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| 08:55.03 | Wikiwide | Why did C FM radio parrot back sounds it heard in microphone, instead of providing radio? Is it because of the headphones having a microphone? |
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| 10:26.16 | CatButts | patiently waits for CSSU Testing to become installable again |
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| 10:38.04 | sixwheeledbeast | Why is it not installable? |
| 10:39.18 | CatButts | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2017-11-30.log.html#t2017-11-30T23:24:37-2 |
| 10:39.24 | CatButts | probably starting from here |
| 10:39.43 | CatButts | it tells me that cssu enabler is not found |
| 10:39.57 | CatButts | when using one-click install |
| 10:40.28 | m14ed | There is life on this channel ? |
| 10:40.41 | KotCzarny | define life |
| 10:41.13 | CatButts | meow |
| 10:41.18 | m14ed | I pass on that |
| 10:41.30 | m14ed | define life that is |
| 10:41.39 | CatButts | you should try ##symbian m14ed :P |
| 10:42.08 | CatButts | sorry, I mean #symbian |
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| 10:42.46 | CatButts | damned freenode and its double hash fetish |
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| 10:44.31 | sixwheeledbeast | I was aware of issues with thumb and curl but not that. Was the update tested before release like it normally is? |
| 10:45.08 | CatButts | I tested it :P |
| 10:46.13 | sixwheeledbeast | like a couple of people install it from an alternative repo before it's officially released to iron out problems? |
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| 12:45.19 | Vajb | is curl issue still waiting for me to try to update first curla and then cssu? |
| 12:45.28 | Vajb | curl* |
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| 13:19.03 | Vajb | ok it seems that jstest gives me sensible data |
| 13:19.21 | Vajb | now i have button values to fill reasonable to j2k |
| 13:23.34 | Wizzup | Vajb: re: curl, try it, and let me know :) |
| 13:24.00 | Vajb | haha ;) |
| 13:24.46 | Vajb | ok and j2k still fails with "error cant find window to send events to" |
| 13:29.26 | KotCzarny | vajb: even with adding window param? |
| 13:29.40 | Vajb | yes |
| 13:29.48 | KotCzarny | weird |
| 13:30.03 | Vajb | actually there r four new things with drnoksnes running rom |
| 13:30.03 | KotCzarny | you might also try su - user before |
| 13:30.24 | Vajb | nokia-n900 drnoksnes |
| 13:30.57 | Vajb | then n/a drnoksnes - pinball dreams < twice |
| 13:31.12 | Vajb | and n/a sd1_haa window |
| 13:39.35 | Vajb | i am starting to think that i wont be solving this |
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| 13:54.16 | KotCzarny | ho hum. n900 doesnt support wifi-n |
| 13:54.19 | KotCzarny | bummer. |
| 13:59.13 | drathir | bg i guess its normal for that time, and rare the power of device... |
| 14:00.55 | KotCzarny | The IEEE has approved the amendment, and it was published in October 2009 |
| 14:01.00 | KotCzarny | missed by a year, eh |
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| 14:37.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, since latest CSSU-T I have audio dropout (reproducible, identical) during charger-plugin-swoosh |
| 14:38.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | not that this was a big issue by itself, but it points to a more generic problem |
| 14:41.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | recaler totally roins audio since quite some time already. I wonder if something re PolypAudio changed that's causing all this |
| 14:42.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | recaller totally ruins* |
| 14:45.57 | Vajb | \o/ i got it to register keypresses! |
| 14:46.14 | Vajb | installing x11-utils was the key |
| 14:46.30 | Vajb | now it works via hexid of the window |
| 14:47.19 | Vajb | now remains to be solved, how to figure out which is the spawning window id when i start rom... |
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| 14:57.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | huh? |
| 14:58.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | KotCzarny: even today _many_ devices have no 5GHz WLAN, only 2.4GHz |
| 14:59.30 | Vajb | DocScrutinizer05: i've been playing with gamepad settings on n900... |
| 15:05.18 | teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05: 2.4Ghz should be considered dead, though. |
| 15:05.29 | CatButts | why |
| 15:05.43 | teotwaki | Too much interference to get any kind of decent bandwidth. |
| 15:05.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: dead? nah, overcrowded |
| 15:06.04 | teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05: That's what I meant |
| 15:07.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm pretty happy with everybody and their dog and cat going 2.4, the less mess on 5 |
| 15:07.21 | CatButts | meow |
| 15:09.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | for your convenience (CSSU-T12): gconftool -s /apps/osso/status-area-applet-battery/show_charge_charging -t bool true |
| 15:17.27 | teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05: that's the whole point of 5, though. Everyone can use it like crazy, but the shorter spread means you're not as affected. |
| 15:19.06 | KotCzarny | the problem is not bandwidth, but human stupidity |
| 15:19.30 | KotCzarny | make something free, get it thrashed |
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| 16:39.28 | pkill9 | hmm i'd like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZc5gUKcRZA |
| 16:39.55 | pkill9 | using orange pi instead of raspberry pi for extra power |
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| 17:01.53 | Wikiwide | Tired. |
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| 17:37.29 | CatButts | does TV out on the n900 activate automagically when plugged in? |
| 17:37.40 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 17:37.49 | KotCzarny | in clone mode |
| 17:37.53 | CatButts | then my cable is less than automagic |
| 17:38.07 | CatButts | I solder doohickey |
| 17:38.14 | KotCzarny | see pinout |
| 17:38.19 | CatButts | http://pinouts.ru/visual/gen/nokia_n95_tvout.jpg |
| 17:38.40 | KotCzarny | seems ok |
| 17:38.50 | KotCzarny | check for continuity |
| 17:39.57 | KotCzarny | also if you dont have any shorts |
| 17:41.41 | CatButts | seems ok |
| 17:41.57 | CatButts | better put on some shorts :P |
| 17:43.01 | KotCzarny | btw. orange pi uses same av cable pinout |
| 17:54.34 | CatButts | does any symbol appear when TV-out is engaged? |
| 17:55.21 | KotCzarny | dont remember, let me check |
| 17:59.54 | KotCzarny | no symbol, but if you click on systray area (clock) it will have tv item |
| 18:00.06 | KotCzarny | and will say 'tv enabled' |
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| 18:02.03 | KotCzarny | but it will only show when you plug the yellow cable somewhere |
| 18:03.16 | CatButts | can I plug only yellow cable? |
| 18:03.22 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 18:03.36 | CatButts | I'll short it to see what happan |
| 18:03.46 | KotCzarny | it was enough to plug the yellow one in the usb grabber, doesnt have to be plugged to pc |
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| 18:05.56 | CatButts | shorting yellow cable gives me headset symbol |
| 18:06.20 | KotCzarny | plug it into some grabber card? |
| 18:06.44 | CatButts | plugged it into TV |
| 18:06.50 | CatButts | nada on AV |
| 18:07.12 | pkill9 | CatButts: you need to plug the TV out cable into TV first, then plug into n900 |
| 18:07.35 | CatButts | did as well |
| 18:07.40 | pkill9 | ok |
| 18:07.47 | pkill9 | just checking :P |
| 18:19.01 | CatButts | oh wait |
| 18:19.06 | CatButts | TV says |
| 18:19.27 | CatButts | Video | L Audio R |
| 18:19.29 | CatButts | OUT |
| 18:19.36 | CatButts | not IN |
| 18:19.40 | CatButts | fun |
| 18:19.45 | KotCzarny | you suck? ;) |
| 18:19.59 | KotCzarny | pray you didnt fry anything |
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| 18:21.17 | CatButts | covers his willy in tin foil and sticks it in the mains outlet |
| 18:21.47 | kalin | hi all :) |
| 18:21.55 | CatButts | uh, hello |
| 18:22.31 | kalin | did someone help me to install boot menu on my N900 pr1.3 |
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| 18:35.15 | CatButts | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DP7P6g2VwAAoEG1.jpg:orig unrelated |
| 19:21.12 | kalin | i have installed boot menu |
| 19:21.38 | kalin | but i have no option to boot from sd card |
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| 19:34.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | let me put it this way: noot menu doesn't create options, it provides the options you configured |
| 19:34.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | boot menu* |
| 19:35.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | also actually boot menu isn't to select different boot systems. You use uBoot for that |
| 19:37.51 | CatButts | does uBoot make BootMenu redundant? |
| 19:38.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | alas uBoot comes with a wizard that creates uBoot boot entries from bootmenu file tree structure entries, which makes uBoot look like it was related to bootmenu, which it absolutely isn't |
| 19:38.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | CatButts: no, botmenu is *after* kernel booted, just vefore "init" starts |
| 19:39.26 | kalin | i installed Fanoush BootMenu |
| 19:39.30 | CatButts | I mean, if you have uBoot, would you even need BootMenu? |
| 19:40.02 | kalin | uBoot does'nt rise in app manager |
| 19:40.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | so bootmenu is pretty much the first regular program that runs *after* boot, while uBoot is a boot manager running to load kernel |
| 19:41.01 | kalin | so what i can do to boot from sd card? |
| 19:45.01 | pkill9 | bootmenu is the thing that backs up your rootfs + optfs right? |
| 19:45.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | basically yes. bootmenu starts backupmenu |
| 19:46.12 | pkill9 | uboot lets you load different kernels, whereas bootmenu is kinda attached to the main kernel |
| 19:46.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | kalin: learn how to create a uBoot entry pointing to your kernel and rootgs on uSD |
| 19:46.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | roofs even |
| 19:46.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh |
| 19:47.32 | CatButts | card must be formated in ext2/3 yes? |
| 19:47.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | nfc |
| 19:47.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd think yes |
| 19:48.00 | kalin | DocScrutinizer05, i have no uBoot in app manager |
| 19:48.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | at least one of the partitions |
| 19:48.19 | pkill9 | if you have correct version of uboot, it can be formatted to ext4 |
| 19:48.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | kalin: you probably won't install uBoot from app manager |
| 19:49.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~uboot |
| 19:49.11 | infobot | N900 uBoot is a siamese twin binary [uBoot+stockMaemoKernel] that resides in kernel NAND partition /dev/mtd3 aka "kernel". You can't uninstall it, rather you'll nuke it when you flash/install another kernel like stock maemo kernel or powerkernel. To start other than stock maemo kernel via uBoot, you have to provide the according kernel image files, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81613 |
| 19:49.45 | CatButts | I like siamese |
| 19:50.12 | kalin | ok |
| 19:50.48 | kalin | did someone booted ubuntu mobile or arc linux from sd? |
| 19:51.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm pretty sure, yes |
| 19:51.23 | CatButts | drivers are probably main caveat |
| 19:51.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, sure |
| 19:51.55 | kalin | now i put kubuntu image with dd to sd card |
| 19:52.07 | kalin | but never try this |
| 20:01.28 | pkill9 | yeah i have kalin |
| 20:01.38 | pkill9 | i documented all the issues i encountered |
| 20:02.16 | pkill9 | if you're interested kalin https://github.com/pkillnine/n900-ALarm/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed |
| 20:03.29 | pkill9 | i don't use it tho, i switched back to CSSU maemo |
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| 20:43.51 | ilew | DocScrutinizer51: ping |
| 20:45.09 | ilew | merlin1991: ping |
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| 20:49.00 | ilew | Are you able to update the file: 'http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/community-testing-fremantle.install' and change the package line to 'package = community-ssu-enabler-testing'? doing that will fix the problem CatButts' is having. |
| 20:50.10 | CatButts | ilew: pong |
| 20:51.12 | CatButts | I'll give that a spin |
| 20:52.03 | ilew | CatButts: Cheers |
| 20:53.56 | Maxdamantus | It's probably not going to just work putting a kubuntu image on the SD card. |
| 20:55.47 | Maxdamantus | You'd probably need to continue using your own kernel/modules, where you'd boot the system to the point where you can chroot/pivot_root and execv the desired init. |
| 20:58.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | ilew: I'm not in the position to do this. Plase ask merlin1991 |
| 20:58.34 | ilew | Wizzup: Vajb: Just tested on my dev device, running "apt-get install curl" will fix the dependency and allow you to do the CSSU update. |
| 20:59.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | or, in emergency, ask techstaff aka warfare, xes |
| 21:00.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | ilew: anyway, you should evaluate who's *responsible* for that domain |
| 21:01.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd assume resp edu-guess from URL that it's merlin1991 |
| 21:01.36 | ilew | DocScrutinizer05: I don't think being unable to install CSSU testing to be an emergency. So I'll just send merlin1991 an email. |
| 21:03.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | ilew: who prepared and published T12? |
| 21:04.36 | ilew | DocScrutinizer05: I prepared and pushed it, but merlin1991 ran the import process because I don't have access to the box. |
| 21:04.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | I see |
| 21:05.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | so it's basically you who's responsible |
| 21:05.36 | ilew | Yes, but no permission to do anything about it. |
| 21:05.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | should fix that |
| 21:06.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems there's an organizational issue |
| 21:06.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: ping |
| 21:06.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: are you aware of what's going on with responsibility for repo VM? |
| 21:07.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: should ilew have access to that VM? |
| 21:09.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | ilew: isn' |
| 21:09.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | t that a topic for #maemo-ssu? |
| 21:11.40 | ilew | DocScrutinizer05: People were reporting problems with CSSU updates/installs here, so I thought I'd mention it here just so people can see someone is working on it. |
| 21:12.35 | CatButts | ilew: it worked |
| 21:15.09 | ilew | CatButts: Great, enjoy the new update and thanks for confirming the fix. |
| 21:16.46 | pkill9 | i really need to setup maemo SDK |
| 21:17.06 | KotCzarny | just grab vm image of the sdk? |
| 21:20.42 | pkill9 | hmm yeah i will, i thought it would be a lot slower |
| 21:22.54 | KotCzarny | if you knew how and what, simple chroot fits in ~300MB |
| 21:23.10 | KotCzarny | i have pasted the link somewhere in t.m.o |
| 21:25.21 | pkill9 | i got scratchbox and ran the run_this_frst.sh and sbox_adduser.sh scripts |
| 21:25.24 | CatButts | is the battery indicator fix suppose to be turned on manually or does it come automagically with update? |
| 21:25.38 | pkill9 | but i didn't move it to a suitable directory, it's just in my downloads directory |
| 21:25.54 | pkill9 | i dunno if it registered that as the location somewhere |
| 21:26.22 | pkill9 | what's the battery indicator fix CatButts? |
| 21:27.37 | CatButts | >When charging, reflect charge status in icon (e.g. battery half full: only upper half of icon animated); |
| 21:27.49 | CatButts | oh yeah, needs manual enable |
| 21:36.55 | CatButts | oh, the AV cable is working fine, I was just putting it in the wrong holes :P |
| 21:37.18 | pkill9 | oh yeah that bothers me lol |
| 21:37.38 | CatButts | what's a gconf? |
| 21:38.48 | pkill9 | gnome's config system i think |
| 21:39.11 | CatButts | >Can be enabled/disabled with gconf key /apps/osso/status-area-applet-battery/show_charge_charging |
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| 21:59.09 | Wizzup | ilew: OK, will try that now |
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| 22:46.12 | Wizzup | ilew: upgrade completed |
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| 22:52.33 | ilew | Wizzup: Thanks for confirming. |
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