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00:12.16_axonN9pp_hello good evening, i wrote a python script for my n900. is there a way how i can create an icon for it in the app menu?
00:13.14_axonN9pp_I am using it multiple times per day and it is a bit annoying to enter the terminal go to the directory and start it ...
00:22.23sixwheeledbeastoh, yes there is...
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10:51.28DocScrutinizer05N=MyLeeteApp echo -e "[Desktop Entry]\nEncoding=UTF-8\nVersion=1.0\nType=Application\nName=$N\nExec=/opt/$N/bin/$N.py\nIcon=$N\nX-Osso-Type=application/x-executable\nTerminal=false" >/usr/share/applications/hildon/$N.desktop
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10:55.21DocScrutinizer05KotCzarny: please don't suggest thumb to newbies
10:55.37KotCzarnythere are newbies and newbies
10:59.11WizzupUnable to update 'Maemo 5 Community SSU Package'. Conflict with application packages: curl (7.26.0-1maemo1+0cssu1+thumb1)
10:59.41WizzupNot sure if I want to remove the currently installed curl ;)
11:01.47DocScrutinizer05pkyes, you can upgrade from CSSU-stable to CSSU-testing any time
11:02.35DocScrutinizer05and it's "officially" supported even
11:07.47KotCzarnydocs: the more people using it, the higher chance of spotting bugs. and no, i wont suggest it for complete green ones. only those that look like can be useful
11:08.52DocScrutinizer05Wizzup: that's nasty
11:14.04DocScrutinizer05hmmm  >>libcurl3 (>= 7.26.0-1maemo1+0cssu3)   * curl: Fixes - cve-2013-0249, cve-2013-1944, cve-2013-2174, #705783, #719300, cve-2013-4545, #729965, cve-2013-6422,                  cve-2014-0015, cve-2014-0138, cve-2014-0139, cve-2014-3613, cve-2014-3620, cve-2014-3707, cve-2014-8150,                  cve-2015-3143, cve-2015-3148, cve-2016-5419, cve-2016-5420, cve-2016-7141, cve-2016-7167, cve-2016-8615                  cve-2016-8616, cve-
11:14.06DocScrutinizer052016-8617, cve-2016-8618, cve-2016-8619, cve-2016-8621, cve-2016-8622, cve-2016-8623                  cve-2016-8624 and cve-2016-9586 <<
11:14.50DocScrutinizer05the joy of thumb
11:18.47MaxdamantusThe first rule of thumb is: don't talk about thumb.
11:19.26sicelohaha Maxdamantus :)
11:20.45CatButtspull my thumb
11:22.22DocScrutinizer05\o/  \o/  \o/  \o/  \o/  \o/    * status-area-applet-battery: When charging, reflect charge status in icon (e.g. battery half full: only upper half of icon animated);
11:23.04DocScrutinizer05WOOOOOW!!!  Add gconf key for spawning application on click
11:23.08CatButtsabout bloody time
11:24.16DocScrutinizer05:-(((  MCE still not fixed??? still invisible status LED on full brighness in the sun?
11:27.48DocScrutinizer05I guess it's about time I provide a *decent* app to call when clicking battery icon
11:28.34DocScrutinizer05zenity will indeed come in handy
11:29.37sicelothe gconf key  is for what?
11:29.43DocScrutinizer05I hate all this GUI gibberish forcing me to leave bash scripting
11:30.01DocScrutinizer05Add gconf key for spawning application on click of battery icon in status bar
11:30.12DocScrutinizer05s/bar/menu/
11:31.18sicelowhat application?
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11:31.44DocScrutinizer05~cssu
11:31.44infobothmm... cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update)
11:32.10DocScrutinizer05http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog#Tmaemo12
11:32.38CatButtsoh, CSSU update, nice
11:32.44DocScrutinizer05>>Add gconf key for spawning application on click /apps/osso/status-area-applet-battery/exec_application<<
11:32.55CatButtsanything I should do before triggering the update?
11:33.01DocScrutinizer05yes!!!
11:33.05CatButtsperhaps turning certain repos off?
11:33.05DocScrutinizer05BM backup
11:33.11DocScrutinizer05that too
11:34.01CatButtsths is out for thumb, too, yes?
11:34.13DocScrutinizer05no
11:34.17CatButtsbummer
11:35.01DocScrutinizer05thumb...
11:35.09DocScrutinizer05you've been warned
11:35.56CatButtsso I guess thumb cssu will be a bit behind other CSSU flavours
11:38.27DocScrutinizer05sure
11:38.59DocScrutinizer05though you can safely install CSSU-testing over CSSU-thumb
11:39.41DocScrutinizer05you'll just lose those apps that are updated in testing
11:39.41KotCzarnyisnt cssu-testing more unsafe than cssu-thumb?
11:39.49DocScrutinizer05noway!!
11:40.07KotCzarnyunsafe in the way of more chance of packages having bugs
11:40.14DocScrutinizer05what makes you think so?
11:40.19KotCzarny'testing'
11:40.31KotCzarnythumb seems more or less stable
11:40.40sicelothey are both testing, afaik.
11:40.48DocScrutinizer05afaik thumb is based on testing
11:41.01DocScrutinizer05just with a compiler option
11:41.07KotCzarnyhmm
11:41.53KotCzarnyoh well, gotta run.
11:41.54DocScrutinizer05though it seems freemangordon added some secuity patches just in time that only came in to testing with recent update, see curl above
11:43.11DocScrutinizer05thumb: curl (7.26.0-1maemo1+0cssu1+thumb1)   T12: libcurl3 (>= 7.26.0-1maemo1+0cssu3
11:43.11CatButtschecks out what flavour he installed
11:45.28DocScrutinizer05apt-cache policy mp-fremantle-community-pr
11:45.53DocScrutinizer05apt-cache show 'mp-fremantle-community-pr' |less
11:46.55DocScrutinizer05ponders to "fix" apt-cache show to filter out those idiotic icon base64 deserts
11:54.43WizzupMaxdamantus: why, wrt thumb?
11:59.30siceloi think it was just a pun :)
12:05.57pkill9DocScrutinizer05: by 'BM' do you mean 'backupmenu'?
12:06.31DocScrutinizer05~bm
12:06.31infoboti guess backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975, or one-click install handling dependency issues: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/BM.install
12:07.07pkill9what's the proper way to update to new CSSU version?
12:07.46DocScrutinizer05click the blinking "!" in status bar
12:08.38pkill9ah ok, i don't see it so i assume the new update is only for CSSU-testing
12:09.06DocScrutinizer05note that there is a CSSU update, reboot and do a BM backup. reboot and then do update
12:09.16DocScrutinizer05yes
12:11.19MaxdamantusWizzup: was just making a pun out of doc's statement, “please don't suggest thumb to newbies”
12:12.36WizzupMaxdamantus: oh, got him on ignore, so missed the context. ;)
12:13.51MaxdamantusMm .. /me generally dislikes the idea of ignoring messages on IRC channels.
12:14.11MaxdamantusIf someone really deserves to be ignored, they should probably just be banned from the channel.
12:14.26MaxdamantusThough on a related note, I'm ignored by doc.
12:15.26Maxdamantussleeps.
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12:55.51CatButtsignorance is bliss
13:01.20CatButtshttp://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb this changelog make catbutts sad
13:02.42CatButtswith last release in 2014
13:08.34CatButtsI am half tempted to ditch thumb in favour of vanilla testing :p
13:12.33CatButtsI assume this means reflashing
13:22.04pkill9can you use the extras-testign repo with CSSU-stable?
13:22.14pkill9or do you need CSSU-testing to do that?
13:33.49CatButtstries CSSU installer over already installed CSSU
13:33.54CatButtswish me luck!
13:34.04pkill9goodluck!
13:34.36CatButtsdon't try this at home!
13:52.56KotCzarnyi think changelog might need updating
13:53.22KotCzarnyotoh, dont forget to add notes about switching cssu flavours to wiki
13:59.13pkill9hmm, i think theme-customizer, cssu-features, tweakr and shortcutd would be good to be merged into one configuration application
14:09.57pkill9what is the FMTX applet?
14:16.00KotCzarnyfm transmitter enabler?
14:18.42pkill9i think it's the statusbar
14:41.30Vajbawww can't install cssu update because of unmet dependencies
14:58.39siceloFMTX applet is a widget that makes it easier to select/adjust frequenccy for your fmtx. it also allows you to adjust RDS text, make SMS display on RDS, etc.
14:58.43sicelopkill9: ^
14:59.12sicelohowever, i think it has memory leaks and can misbehave. ymm
14:59.14pkill9ah thx
14:59.27siceloymmv, :)
14:59.48pkill9i wondered cos showing it all the time is an option in the CSSU-features application
15:00.14siceloit works good, when it does. i've used it lots of times .. but if you notice strange things happening with your hildon -deskotp, suspect it
15:04.26Vajbcssu update whines that it can't be installed because of curl. Should i upgrade curl manually by apt and then try cssu update from ham?
15:04.44Vajbapt shows that there is newer version available
15:05.05VajbInstalled: 7.26.0-1maemo1+0cssu1
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17:04.12pkill9is there a proper way to register a shortcut with hildon, instead of adding a .desktop file to either .local/share/applications/hildon or /usr/share/applications/hildon? I find it often crashes my n900 if i add or remove a .desktop file from either of those directories
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18:23.53DocScrutinizer05yes
18:24.36DocScrutinizer05what, it crashes your system? that shouldn't happen
18:25.21DocScrutinizer05there's however a command you should run to update the icon cache - I can't recall from top of my head right now
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19:05.36pkill9is python => 2.7 not stable on maemo?
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20:25.15DocScrutinizer05is it in maemo-extras?
20:25.32DocScrutinizer05then it should be stable
20:26.15DocScrutinizer05the whole purpose of extras-devl, extras-testing and extras is to make sure packages in extras are stable
20:27.49pkill9DocScrutinizer05: it's not, but the last update was in november 2013
20:28.03pkill9i would have thought more people would use it, it's pretty common
20:28.24pkill9that's when version 2.7 was last updated
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23:08.54pkill9is it possible to put .desktop files in .local/share/applications/hildon on the desktop? It doesn't appear in the menu for adding shortcuts to the desktop when in there, but it does appear in that menu when the .desktop file is in /usr/share/applications/hildon
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