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| 00:53.50 | Oksanaa | X depends on Y. I do 'apt-get purge Y'. Does it remove or purge X? |
| 00:54.27 | RST38h | it does not |
| 00:56.18 | RST38h | do autoremove afterwards |
| 00:58.17 | Oksanaa | Is there an autopurge? |
| 00:58.32 | Oksanaa | Ah, no, you misread the question. |
| 00:58.50 | Oksanaa | It's X depending on Y, not Y depending on X. |
| 00:59.31 | Oksanaa | But still, would 'apt-get autopurge' or 'apt-get autoremove --purge' work? |
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| 03:00.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | never NEVER do autoremove |
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| 03:26.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~fapman |
| 03:26.25 | infobot | rumour has it, fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam |
| 03:27.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~hamvsfam |
| 03:27.34 | infobot | well, hamvsfam is https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93227 |
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| 05:38.12 | CatButts | hmmmm |
| 05:40.29 | CatButts | what's the standby time of a nokia n900? |
| 05:40.40 | CatButts | I think my battery is whack |
| 05:40.55 | KotCzarny | install battery-eye |
| 05:41.06 | KotCzarny | normal power draw should be 8-10mA |
| 05:41.20 | KotCzarny | if its higher, you have something wrong with your device |
| 05:41.43 | KotCzarny | statistics will show after a week or two, so keep that in mind |
| 05:42.11 | KotCzarny | but you can still estimate how much it draws from the slope of the plot |
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| 05:43.11 | KotCzarny | oksanaa: yes, autoremove --purge does its job |
| 05:59.07 | KotCzarny | but you have to watch out, on maemo autoremove might bootloop your device |
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| 07:11.39 | CatButts | >Unfortunately Maemo has a very snappish watchdog that reboots your phone if it thinks it hangs due to a runaway process. |
| 07:12.00 | CatButts | well, that explains why it chokes on lzma with large files |
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| 07:24.10 | Maxdamantus | It's not *that* snappish. |
| 07:24.28 | Maxdamantus | The reason it would cause it with lzma is mostly likely that lzma is using too much memory. |
| 07:24.59 | Maxdamantus | so everything is in swap. |
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| 09:29.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | autoremove *WILL* wreck your system, even when you don't get bootloop right away. Subtle dysfunctions detected after weeks or months are even worse than bootloop |
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| 09:55.45 | sixwheeledbeast | a battery monitor would use a little extra battery power while your using it too. |
| 09:56.23 | KotCzarny | swb: from my observations it only gather data at user activity points anyway |
| 09:56.44 | KotCzarny | ie. enabling/disabling screen, charger connect/disconnect etc |
| 09:56.51 | KotCzarny | *gathers |
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| 10:20.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | one of the battery monitoring apps was rather a battery capacity tester doing fast discharge |
| 10:22.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | that said, if the app gathers data only while visible or on activity points then it's absolutely fine. I also dodn't see any negative effects from a `bq27200.sh 30` loop, nota bene as long as displaying to a xterm, untested are effects of redirecting output to a file |
| 10:25.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | and for the generic question of standby time I think I've seen before: the device stays up a 10 days in locked mode without wlan and SIM |
| 10:26.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | on WLAN with ssh session and GSM in standby, my device still does several days, mayve 3 maybe 7, not tested it for long time |
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| 12:41.21 | CatButts | https://wiki.maemo.org/N9QTweak so many oportunities to tweak, so many to brick :P |
| 12:42.11 | CatButts | I just want to reduce UI element size |
| 12:43.36 | Vajb | easiest would be to just use binoculars backwards ;) |
| 12:44.34 | bencoh | CatButts: did you get a n9 as well? |
| 12:46.51 | CatButts | oh wait |
| 12:46.54 | CatButts | derp |
| 12:47.02 | CatButts | n9, not n900 |
| 12:48.17 | CatButts | I am really not paying attention today |
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| 13:48.04 | CatButts | I am liking the chroot linux thing on the n900 |
| 13:48.31 | CatButts | what would it take to roll own linux image? |
| 13:48.51 | CatButts | and how far can I get |
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| 14:06.46 | freemangordon | CatButts: there is already devuan n900 image |
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