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| 05:32.49 | Vajb | wanted to give text based browsers a go. Links crashes in first page i try and lynx fails to even start |
| 05:32.56 | Vajb | nice going |
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| 05:43.38 | sicelo | i once used lynx from repos. it worked for me back then |
| 05:46.36 | Maxdamantus | uses elinks when he needs to use a text-based browser. |
| 05:47.10 | Vajb | fotr me it whines "can't access start file" |
| 05:47.33 | Vajb | Can't Access `file://localhost/usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html' |
| 05:47.50 | Maxdamantus | So maybe try visiting something else? |
| 05:47.54 | Vajb | i don't know why it is looking it from such place tho |
| 05:48.05 | Maxdamantus | press `g` and it should ask you for a URL. |
| 05:48.18 | Maxdamantus | or escape, file, open .. or something. |
| 05:48.20 | Vajb | yes i know |
| 05:50.20 | Vajb | oo something different. Now it complains it doesn't have ssl |
| 05:50.59 | Vajb | i wanted to read news headlines, but i guess i'll just open my laptop |
| 05:56.06 | Maxdamantus | Might be interesting to try making a text-based browser using headless Chromium or something. |
| 05:57.05 | Maxdamantus | So you know it supports practically any website that works in normal browsers, just as long as it can turn the DOM into some reasonable textual form. |
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| 06:01.04 | Vajb | would be cool to have a browser that just shows text and nothing else |
| 06:01.16 | Vajb | might be fast as well |
| 06:12.44 | sicelo | and might not be able to open other sites :-) |
| 06:13.03 | sicelo | esp. the JS-heavy ones |
| 06:13.36 | Maxdamantus | Well, JS-heavy sites should still work, because there isn't really anything that says you need to render the DOM to a physical screen. |
| 06:13.58 | Maxdamantus | and JS/DOM should work fine without a screen. |
| 06:14.55 | Maxdamantus | There might be some issues regarding things like `getBoundingClientRect` .. some code might depend on using things like that to determine dimension information, but that's still fairly independent of having to actually draw anything to a screen. |
| 06:15.05 | sicelo | i've found many sites that simply refuse to show anything with elinks. you just get maybe a top heading, and nothing else |
| 06:15.51 | Maxdamantus | Yeah, elinks doesn't support JS afaik, or if it does, I don't think my install does. |
| 06:16.00 | sicelo | even though, as you mention, even elinks supports JS to sum extent |
| 06:16.29 | sicelo | there is basic JS support, at least in some version(s) |
| 06:16.36 | Maxdamantus | and even if it does, I suspect it lacks support for a bunch of extra things on top of plain JS/DOM support, like XHR. |
| 06:17.23 | Vajb | ok got lynx to work as well and find out it wont work any better |
| 06:17.32 | Vajb | no ssl support in our version |
| 06:17.56 | Maxdamantus | When supporting things like XHR properly, you need to implement correct semantics for things like CORS. |
| 06:18.10 | sicelo | Vajb: become a maintainer and update it :) |
| 06:22.15 | Vajb | lynx works in my news headlines page |
| 06:22.27 | Vajb | well not my as mine but the one i use |
| 07:26.01 | KotCzarny | vajb, you can always compile your own version, it's not that hard (usually 2 commands) |
| 07:26.04 | KotCzarny | but most sites are simply broken when using js-less browser |
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| 07:46.42 | Vajb | yeah i guess |
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| 11:56.34 | sunshavi | Vajb: i use w3m on n900 |
| 11:57.25 | KotCzarny | btw. try dillo and midori too |
| 11:57.29 | KotCzarny | they are both lightweight |
| 11:58.18 | bencoh | dillo <3 |
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| 12:34.04 | ceene | midori works really well on n900 |
| 12:34.24 | ceene | i would say is the best browser for n900, in fact |
| 12:35.52 | KotCzarny | each of available browser have their strenghts and weaknesses |
| 12:35.55 | KotCzarny | and uses |
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| 12:44.49 | sicelo | how do midori & dillo on N900 handle https://www.softaculous.com/demos/HumHub ? |
| 12:47.02 | sicelo | and https://news.ycombinator.com |
| 12:49.20 | ceene | the midori version i used was the one from easydebian |
| 12:49.28 | ceene | i don't remember which version was it |
| 12:49.37 | ceene | but it was quite up to date and standards compliant |
| 12:53.53 | sicelo | regarding humhub, a friend has a site that i sometimes help him with. Opera Mobile freezes the N900, microb, as expected, can't render it at all, and only fennec allows me to use it. |
| 12:54.20 | sicelo | the hacker news page -only opera mobile can open - certificate issues |
| 13:00.12 | ceene | the only problem i've ever had with fennec is that it was too ram consuming |
| 13:00.27 | ceene | that's why i like midori more |
| 13:25.23 | KotCzarny | no repo yet |
| 13:25.27 | KotCzarny | whoops, wrong chan |
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