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| 01:38.48 | jonwil | ok, finally, I have built everything from CSSU git that makes sense to build and that will compile on my dev VM, now to figure out what to do with all these debs and which ones I should install :) |
| 01:39.28 | jonwil | Or maybe I will just go ahead and install CSSU properly :P |
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| 02:17.11 | jonwil | Time to install CSSU :) |
| 03:10.55 | jonwil | This is taking longer than I thought :P |
| 03:37.15 | jonwil | Finally, I am now running CSSU I hope :) |
| 04:00.51 | jonwil | Yeah CSSU is great |
| 04:01.06 | jonwil | Much better than running some random set of self-built packages' |
| 04:01.17 | jonwil | Now I need to update to CSSU-devel and then update a few packages on top of that |
| 04:01.37 | jonwil | I want to live on the bleeding edge of N900 development (and possibly beyond that in some cases :P |
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| 06:49.55 | KotCzarny | https://www.cnx-software.com/2017/10/10/purism-librem-5-open-source-linux-smartphone-meets-its-1-5-million-dollars-funding-target/ |
| 06:50.25 | KotCzarny | wtf. no kb thing gets funding |
| 06:54.12 | KotCzarny | lol, 80usd shipping |
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| 07:38.16 | jonwil | I think I might have found that rare case where a N900 is screwed beyond being fixable. Something somehow in the process of installing cssu or something has caused my phone to go into a bootloop (the kind that even backupmenu cant get past). That alone I can fix. But now my USB port wont work at all and I cant talk to the phone via flasher. |
| 07:38.24 | jonwil | That second thing means I am screwed |
| 07:39.15 | KotCzarny | whatever you did, as long battery and usb is physically ok, you should be able to boot rescueos |
| 07:39.21 | KotCzarny | so check your battery maybe? |
| 07:39.27 | jonwil | Note "USB port wont work at all" |
| 07:39.42 | KotCzarny | so, you broke the port? |
| 07:39.43 | jonwil | i.e. flasher-3.5 wont see the phone |
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| 07:40.02 | jonwil | These things are weak and it probably finally had one too many replugs |
| 07:40.13 | KotCzarny | ho hum |
| 07:40.15 | jonwil | When I plug in the data cable from my PC into my N900, it comes up with a Nokia logo on a dark screen with a USB sign in the corner for about 5 seconds |
| 07:40.25 | Wizzup | that indicates that usb works though |
| 07:40.26 | jonwil | less than 5 seconds actually |
| 07:40.29 | jonwil | then that logo goes away |
| 07:40.33 | Wizzup | hm. |
| 07:40.36 | jonwil | and it bootloops |
| 07:40.43 | KotCzarny | can you try bootloop-low-battery-fix ? |
| 07:40.44 | Wizzup | it might be fixable with some soldering skills still, if it is the usb port |
| 07:41.45 | jonwil | ~bootloop-low-battery-fix |
| 07:41.55 | jonwil | What's bootloop-low-battery-fix? |
| 07:42.01 | jonwil | I dont have soldering skills or the tools to solder |
| 07:42.27 | jonwil | and I dont know anyone I can go visit who does have the tools/skills for soldering |
| 07:42.35 | KotCzarny | just charge the battery somehow |
| 07:43.00 | KotCzarny | afair once it's under 30% or something flasher wont see the device |
| 07:43.19 | jonwil | I have no way to charge the battery |
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| 07:45.06 | jonwil | Although everything I know says there is juice in at least one of the 2 batteries I have here in front of me |
| 07:45.24 | jonwil | My gut says its one of those cases where some pins of the USB port aren't making contact and others are |
| 07:45.32 | jonwil | Hence the brief USB logo |
| 07:45.39 | KotCzarny | did you try flasher on both? |
| 07:46.01 | jonwil | yep, neither one gets it to recognize |
| 07:46.40 | jonwil | my gut is telling me my USB port is busted and I am screwed |
| 07:47.06 | jonwil | even if I could charge the battery to 100% (or get one that was charged to 100%) I dont think it would get this thing to be recognized by flasher |
| 07:47.33 | jonwil | I have no clue what the hell to do now |
| 07:48.10 | KotCzarny | get cheap device with broken lcd? :) |
| 07:48.13 | Wizzup | order another n900, or a n900 battery charger |
| 07:48.35 | jonwil | I dont think the battery will help |
| 07:48.39 | jonwil | I think I need a new N900 |
| 07:48.46 | jonwil | one with a USB port that isn't stuffed |
| 07:49.01 | jonwil | trust me when I say no amount of battery juice is likely to get this phone going again |
| 07:49.41 | jonwil | and of course I have a backupmenu backup but its sitting on my EMMC since I dont have a microsd |
| 07:50.44 | jonwil | I am fairly sure I am 100% screwed |
| 07:51.19 | Wizzup | you can try to gently push the cable a bit and see if it makes contact then. then it might be fixable still. |
| 07:51.29 | Wizzup | (with a steady hand and soldering iron) |
| 07:51.35 | jonwil | Tried that several times, no juice |
| 07:52.00 | jonwil | I dont have a soldering iron, a steady hand or the tools to take apart a N900 |
| 07:52.07 | jonwil | I am fairly sure I am screwed |
| 07:52.12 | jonwil | at this point |
| 07:52.39 | jonwil | unless I can find someone in Brisbane, Australia that can do the kind of deep board level repair work likely to be necessary to fix this |
| 07:53.34 | jonwil | and in the short term I have no phone at all |
| 07:53.54 | jonwil | and no way for important people to get in touch with me whilst I figure this out |
| 07:54.09 | jonwil | I think the best next step is to buy the cheapest possible phone so I can talk to people again |
| 07:54.33 | jonwil | and then from there figure out what to do with my precious N900 |
| 07:56.42 | KotCzarny | used phones are often offered for free on classifieds sites |
| 07:56.56 | KotCzarny | ie. local sell/buy/give away for free boards |
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| 08:00.58 | jonwil | That sort of stuff doesn't happen so much in Australia because of the "we buy any phone no matter how old" type mobs that give maybe $5 for even the crappiest of phones (and the big recycling effort where people dispose of their phones in an e-waste recycling bin) |
| 08:01.10 | KotCzarny | o.O |
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| 08:05.09 | jonwil | right now though I will head out to the nearest payphone and phone some people who will get very worried if they cant contact me |
| 08:05.57 | jonwil | since otherwise they might think I am in real trouble |
| 08:08.45 | Wizzup | jonwil: I can usually get a n900 for 50 euros around here |
| 08:08.57 | Wizzup | if you want I can do that and send one your way. have to check shipping. |
| 08:13.51 | KotCzarny | oh wow, letter up to 350g to australia is ~4usd |
| 08:13.57 | KotCzarny | up to 500g is ~10usd |
| 08:14.44 | KotCzarny | jonwil, i can try to get device with broken screen cheap here and send you |
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| 09:03.12 | jonwil | $70 later I have a cheap crap phone that is covered in Google, LG and Vodafone logos and that has successfully connected to TPG (my network is a Vodafone MVNO hence why I went for a Vodafone phone) so at least I can contact the people that I need to contact. |
| 09:03.17 | jonwil | Or rather I have done that |
| 09:03.27 | jonwil | let the family know I am ok and what has happened |
| 09:03.38 | jonwil | So that's got the immediate need for a device that can act as a phone sorted |
| 09:05.04 | jonwil | Now I can take a bit of time to figure out whether I go for a repair of my current phone somehow, a new-to-me N900 or something else. |
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| 11:29.21 | mike727 | jonwil, I had 2 people in Brisbane who responded to my wanted 'N900' ad. A moth ago, I offered $20; no reply, probably waiting for a higher offer. |
| 11:29.54 | mike727 | *month |
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| 11:49.16 | mike727 | Anyone here from Melbourne? There is this ambiguous ad, *might* be worth looking at gumtree.com.au/s-ad/1162113650 |
| 11:51.05 | mike727 | Heck, I bought my first N900 from asking, "Anyone want to sell me their Nokia N900?", on the Australian (reddit?) IRC channel. |
| 11:55.45 | jonwil | I haven't decided what I am going to do yet. Its entirely possible there is some way I can get the USB port on my N900 replaced somehow and get my own phone back again. |
| 12:01.42 | jonwil | In fact I am sure its probably fixable since there are thousands of posts on TMO about people who had broken USB ports but dont anymore. Its just a question of whether someone who has the skills to fix it exists in a location where they would be useful to me... |
| 12:02.49 | jonwil | and how much fixing it would cost |
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| 13:55.01 | sicelo | and i fixed the usb ports on my two n900 with zero smd soldering experience. i believe you can do it jonwil |
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| 14:21.56 | KotCzarny | sicelo: lol |
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| 14:32.04 | jonwil | Its not just the experience, I dont have any of the tools required to do it |
| 14:32.34 | KotCzarny | send it to sicelo |
| 14:32.35 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 14:32.37 | jonwil | And I suspect getting the tools for fine SMD soldering work (and all the other things required to make it happen) wouldn't be cheap. |
| 14:35.45 | KotCzarny | i think he did it without |
| 14:40.03 | jonwil | I would need either skills I dont have, tools I dont have or both in order to try and fix my N900 |
| 14:40.07 | jonwil | unforuntely |
| 14:40.20 | jonwil | and that's not me underestimating my capabilities |
| 14:40.40 | jonwil | I definitely need a soldering iron (even the cheapest suitable one would be expensive) |
| 14:40.53 | jonwil | and I need some tiny screwdrivers for the tiny screws |
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| 15:13.03 | sicelo | yes, i had no sm station, just a regular electronics soldering iron |
| 15:13.45 | sicelo | what android phone did you get? |
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| 15:15.27 | jonwil | I bought a $70 cheap LG thingo |
| 15:15.34 | jonwil | Just something that would let me make calls and crap |
| 15:15.51 | jonwil | It was the cheapest phone I could find that I could be sure would work with my carrier |
| 15:17.18 | jonwil | I just needed something to keep me going until I figure out what to do (fix my N900, new N900, some other phone) |
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| 20:15.00 | Vajb | is it me or did wikipedia articles menus stop working in opera @ n900? |
| 20:16.47 | Vajb | i mean if there is longer article it is first shown in "collapsed" view and before today i was able to click those and read the sub menus. |
| 20:18.00 | sicelo | use microb :) |
| 20:20.53 | Vajb | i don't like it. It is slow :/ |
| 20:22.46 | sicelo | use Opera 12 maybe? |
| 20:25.59 | Vajb | it had annoying features in facebook |
| 20:26.08 | Vajb | im picky, i know :) |
| 20:26.49 | Vajb | but good call, I have version 11 installed |
| 20:28.41 | Vajb | I can confirm that wikipedia works as expected on microb |
| 20:30.57 | sicelo | ;-) |
| 21:36.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | sicelo: did you talk about the group reg issue? |
| 21:38.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | - on a totally unrelated sidenote - considers making money as a youtube IKEA assembly instruction video provider |
| 21:39.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | dman, those PAX slide doors are a bitch to assemble |
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