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| 04:12.36 | Boyeto | I don't know where the best place to ask is, but I can get a good price on an Xperia X right now |
| 04:12.42 | Boyeto | and I heard it's getting Sailfish OS |
| 04:12.54 | Boyeto | can I just buy any random Xperia X, and then flash Jolla's OS when the time comes? |
| 04:18.54 | Vajb | Boyeto: somehow i doubt this, but then again. What do I know? Nothing. |
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| 04:20.15 | Boyeto | thanks for replying at all Vajb |
| 04:20.21 | Boyeto | had you actually heard of this? https://blog.jolla.com/category/sony-xperia/ |
| 04:20.30 | Boyeto | and is there somewhere else I should be asking on IRC? |
| 04:20.48 | Boyeto | need to know pretty soon, and at work so can't open the browser for forums, etc |
| 04:22.26 | Boyeto | nvm, found the #sailfishos-porters channel |
| 04:27.02 | Vajb | no i haven't heard. My commont was fully based on what i have heard of Jolla beforehand. |
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| 04:28.37 | Boyeto | j #sailfishos-porters |
| 04:28.44 | Boyeto | sorry |
| 04:34.24 | Vajb | well so it seems, but tell me. Is it still true that users can't flash their jolla devices, if they break the os? |
| 04:35.18 | Vajb | if that is true. I find it kinda weird that they announce flashability for other device while theirs remain closed. |
| 04:35.55 | Vajb | some would argue, it is bad for business |
| 04:41.23 | Boyeto | I don't really know, never tried to flash my Jolla device |
| 04:45.42 | Vajb | I was planning to get one, when they announced it, but then i heard it wont have hw keyboard |
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| 05:24.29 | Boyeto | Yeah, I gave up the HW keyboard when I got the N9 |
| 05:24.43 | Boyeto | I get by with Swype now |
| 05:26.09 | Boyeto | p.s. I would argue that they probably don't care if you break your Sony/Nexus devices (not their problem), but if you brick your Jolla hardware, they have to support you |
| 05:26.27 | Boyeto | not that I like my Jolla hardware at all, it's too low-end |
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| 07:42.08 | sixwheeledbeast | before you rush into this, consider do you want an Xperia in the first place. |
| 07:50.44 | Boyeto | sixwheeledbeast: Yeah, I have an Xperia XZ Premium |
| 07:50.49 | Boyeto | and my last phone was an Xperia Z3 |
| 07:50.57 | Boyeto | prior to that, Xperia Z1 |
| 07:51.06 | Boyeto | I like Xperias / Sony, but I miss the N9 |
| 07:51.17 | Boyeto | 9 minutes before I have to make the purchase |
| 07:52.20 | sixwheeledbeast | ok, I haven't really used one but people tell me they break easily. |
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| 07:53.14 | Boyeto | Hmm... They seem pretty solid to me. I (foolishly) dropped my XZp while running, no case, and it's only got a minor rough texture in the bottom left corner |
| 07:53.37 | Boyeto | generally though, I can see how they'd break easily |
| 07:53.40 | Boyeto | slabs of glass |
| 07:54.07 | KotCzarny | phone on a leash |
| 07:54.11 | Boyeto | could always put a case on it, if it appears particularly vulnerable |
| 07:54.37 | Boyeto | I bought a Samsung S4 once, worst piece of hardware I ever purchased |
| 07:54.48 | Boyeto | that, and the Xperias, are my only Android experience |
| 07:55.03 | Boyeto | so this Sony partnership is perfect for me |
| 07:57.33 | Boyeto | I put NitDroid on my N9, custom roms on my Z1 and Z3. I think I'll be ok with putting Sailfish on the X, as long as it's plausible |
| 07:57.53 | Boyeto | 3 minutes left before I have to hit 'buy' lol |
| 08:01.28 | KotCzarny | and i use fremantle since 2009 |
| 08:01.37 | KotCzarny | not going to change for android |
| 08:06.03 | Boyeto | I changed because the hardware, etc got too slow |
| 08:06.10 | Boyeto | can't do what I need to do on the N9/N900 |
| 08:06.22 | KotCzarny | sure, that's when i take out my laptop |
| 08:06.26 | Boyeto | eg. Banking, bitcoin trading, etc |
| 08:06.52 | Boyeto | ah, if that works for you, awesome. I have to commute on packed trains with no seats and am time poor :) |
| 08:07.15 | Boyeto | anyway, purchase made, looking forward to using Sailfish on a proper phone |
| 08:17.13 | sixwheeledbeast | I agree, anything my N900 can't do it's time to break out something bigger. |
| 08:17.48 | sixwheeledbeast | From experience N900 is only as slow as the software you put on it. |
| 08:18.29 | sixwheeledbeast | If you install allsorts of stuff on there it has a huge effect on the UX. |
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| 13:11.52 | blap | or the website |
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| 16:57.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2017-09-21 Thu 18:44:31] <trippeh> OH NO! they are removing IRDA from the linux kernel :O |
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| 23:33.12 | Boyeto | sixwheeledbeast: There are things some of us do on a daily basis, in situations where pulling out a laptop isn't practical. Can you pay for things in cafes, etc with crypto on-the-go using your N900? Catch an Uber? |
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| 23:55.27 | jonwil | Dont know about crypto on-the-go but for Uber there is https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=99792 |