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| 11:19.25 | jonwil | hi |
| 11:24.26 | blap | o/ |
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| 11:43.01 | mike727 | Hi jonwil. Do you have any interest in Droid 4 ? |
| 11:45.31 | bencoh | btw, droid4 costs 50e including worldwide shipping from ebay (from the US) |
| 11:45.31 | mike727 | A lady in Australia emailed me about her's. ~$50 |
| 11:45.38 | bencoh | $50 |
| 11:45.54 | bencoh | (refurbished) |
| 11:46.09 | mike727 | "lightly used" |
| 11:47.04 | mike727 | It's tempting for me, but not sure about overcoming the android nuisance |
| 11:51.56 | bencoh | mike727: droid4 seems to be quite a good target for android-free software |
| 11:52.13 | bencoh | especially considering that some (known) kernel hackers/devs already picked it up |
| 11:52.28 | bencoh | and mainline status is getting pretty good already |
| 11:53.51 | blap | it's wonderful! |
| 11:54.10 | mike727 | Thanks. Some recent TMO posts sparked my interest. Apparantly common battery issues are solved by bending the flex connector. |
| 11:54.20 | bencoh | battery issues? |
| 11:54.36 | blap | keyboard is glorious |
| 11:54.39 | mike727 | I've read that charging can be intermittent |
| 11:55.09 | mike727 | blap: What do you run on it? |
| 11:55.15 | blap | sailfishOS |
| 11:57.31 | blap | keyboard map still needs some tweaking. sd card needs to mount to a consistent place (udev rules?) |
| 11:58.26 | mike727 | Is it limited to 32sd or can it be higher; like N900 ? |
| 11:58.50 | mike727 | *32GB microSD |
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| 12:05.20 | mike727 | Is CM11 or CM12 sw related? |
| 12:07.07 | blap | i don't know |
| 12:07.40 | blap | i think i have 16gb in there, plenty for the podcasts |
| 12:12.51 | mike727 | D4: Is the screen's viewing quality about the same or better than n900 ? |
| 12:14.50 | blap | about same, but larger |
| 12:15.01 | blap | i think it's pentile |
| 12:19.02 | blap | the hardware seems to work. gps, camera, video recording |
| 12:19.13 | blap | no hdmi out afaik |
| 12:19.44 | bencoh | blap: sw issues like "sdcard mounting point" are likely not related to hw, so ... :) |
| 12:20.24 | bencoh | droid4 does have hdmi out, it might not be supported on sfos though |
| 12:20.45 | blap | i have heard it is not |
| 12:22.05 | blap | the irc client is nicely done |
| 12:22.21 | blap | but with a custom keyboard i'll build irssi |
| 12:26.17 | bencoh | mike727: screen isn't transflective though |
| 12:26.20 | bencoh | which is quite a pity |
| 12:26.53 | bencoh | but I don't know many smartphones with a transflective screen anyway, let alone with a keyboard |
| 12:26.53 | blap | those seem to be rare now |
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| 12:38.24 | mike727 | Thanks. I suppose, I should just buy it. Might as well |
| 12:39.59 | bencoh | mike727: tbh I bought one, and I'm now waiting for usb connectors and ftdi stuff |
| 12:40.16 | bencoh | (more interested in mainline + devuan than sfos) |
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| 12:41.39 | mike727 | so same USB flaw as n900? |
| 12:42.40 | bencoh | no, that's completely unrelated |
| 12:42.42 | mike727 | *'usb port' falling off ? |
| 12:42.45 | bencoh | nope |
| 12:42.53 | bencoh | see http://elektranox.org/droid4/ :) |
| 12:44.07 | bencoh | uart is "muxed" with usb (you can get either of the two) |
| 12:44.42 | bencoh | RX/RX are connected to the D+/D- pins |
| 12:44.45 | bencoh | RX/TX* |
| 12:46.47 | mike727 | Is there some risk with hardware & /or terminal commands? |
| 12:48.10 | mike727 | Sorry for being a noob. I should give that a proper read tomorrow. |
| 12:49.31 | blap | i don't understand |
| 12:49.38 | blap | but i see hdmi support(?) |
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| 12:52.10 | mike727 | Is usb connectors and ftdi stuff from ebay? |
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| 12:56.40 | blap | what is that for? |
| 12:58.27 | mike727 | For making D4 have mainline linux (eg. Devuan) |
| 13:00.10 | mike727 | There is a guide (blog) about it, in the link |
| 13:02.38 | blap | ah well get one for every OS then :) |
| 13:02.50 | mike727 | Will you have to do soldering (usb connectors) or will you get ready-made? |
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| 13:20.12 | bencoh | mike727: I ordered parts from aliexpress |
| 13:20.46 | bencoh | (and there is no need to alter the phone itself) |
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| 14:30.46 | jonwil | I have zero interest in Droid 4 |
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