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06:43.39Enrico_MenottiAre the Maemo kernel sources available? There was http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta2/free/k/kernel/, which now is obviously dead. Also, I have found that the complete PR1.3 sources were available as a cdrom image, right? I have seen there is something on DocScrutinizer05 's site, but things are stored in the N9 directory. What for N900?
06:47.19bencohkernel-power is availabe in extras (including sources)
06:47.34Enrico_MenottiAnd the stock kernel?
06:48.07bencohI don't remember ... sdk maybe
06:49.35Enrico_MenottiInteresting page: http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Maemo.
06:53.55Enrico_MenottiWhere is the sdk? I can't find it on muarf.
06:59.00bencohthat's because it's hosted on repository.maemo.org
06:59.20Enrico_MenottiYes, it's on repository.maemo.org. But can't find the kernel. Was it available?
07:02.43Enrico_MenottiFound it! It's in the repositories for Maemo SDKs, in the free components.
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07:04.43Enrico_MenottiUseful info: http://natisbad.org/N900/n900-custom-kernel.html.
07:06.45Enrico_MenottiOk, time to work now. Back on the game in the evening. bencoh : thanks for pointing me to the sdk.
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10:31.45DocScrutinizer05/topic
10:32.04DocScrutinizer05~sb
10:32.04infobotsomebody said scratchbox was a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB
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19:04.47DocScrutinizer05off-topic: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/et_al/S60-bulging/
19:05.25DocScrutinizer05all of a sudden, unnoticed, during 30min while I had a walk with device on my belt
19:05.47KotCzarnyboom?
19:05.53DocScrutinizer05nothing
19:06.05DocScrutinizer05"just" pregnant
19:06.14DocScrutinizer059 months in 30 min
19:06.26KotCzarnyit's an oldtimer twist on bending phones fad
19:06.47KotCzarnyit's an internal short
19:06.50freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: how old is that device?
19:07.01KotCzarnycrystal pierced insulator, started gassing
19:07.02DocScrutinizer05<24 months, rather 14
19:07.08freemangordonomg
19:07.22freemangordonmy GF has the same
19:07.43freemangordonit is less than 6 months old
19:07.45DocScrutinizer05Cat-S60, Do they use same shit like Samsung?
19:07.54KotCzarnyLOL
19:07.58KotCzarnyit's that cat phone?
19:08.05freemangordonyes, cat s60
19:08.11KotCzarnythe one that were meant to be hardened?
19:08.14DocScrutinizer05https://www.catphones.com/de-de/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/s60-feature-4.jpg
19:08.14freemangordonmhm
19:08.19KotCzarny...
19:08.47DocScrutinizer05THIS one isn't waterproof anymore ;-P
19:08.58freemangordondoes it still work?
19:09.04KotCzarnyLOL
19:09.05DocScrutinizer05YES! :-D
19:09.13KotCzarnydischarge it
19:09.21freemangordonBTW, that "hardened" device lost is backcover paint in less than 2 months
19:09.36DocScrutinizer05yeah, placed it outdoors, in a plastic sack
19:09.45DocScrutinizer05left it powered up
19:10.18DocScrutinizer05no paint here, mere plastic with fake carbon fibre optics
19:10.45KotCzarnymaybe it was a store refurb
19:10.51freemangordonyes, this is what I am talking about, it mimics carbon fibre but is paint
19:10.51DocScrutinizer05nfc
19:11.41DocScrutinizer05anyway great to receive a reploacement (I *hope* so, since the display already has sufered pressure damage - a thumb fingerprint sized blueish dot in white display
19:11.44freemangordonKotCzarny: no, brand new
19:12.35DocScrutinizer05also I heard they are selling a modified cwersion now, with less flimsy covers for the receptacles, with better seals etc
19:12.54DocScrutinizer05s/cwersion/verison/
19:13.04freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: BTW, have you ever had problems with proximity sensor (or its SW) on that device?
19:13.17freemangordonas it seems the screen unlocks randomli in a call
19:13.23freemangordon*randomly
19:13.28KotCzarnyat this rate i suspect cheapo 'myphone hammer' would fare better
19:13.35DocScrutinizer05errr, I don't even know if it HAS a proximity sensor. I never used that device as a phone
19:13.58freemangordonah. what for than, hammer? :D
19:14.02freemangordon*then
19:14.19DocScrutinizer05hm?
19:14.27APicHm.
19:14.51freemangordonwhat did you use that device for if not as a phone?
19:15.00DocScrutinizer05I used this device for "MEH android, I know I jate it" and for the awesome FLIR
19:15.12freemangordonyeah, FLIR
19:15.27DocScrutinizer05*occasionally* I used offline google maps navigation
19:16.54freemangordonyeah, it managed to get me almost lost in Greece a couple of times (google navigation)
19:17.04DocScrutinizer05but honestly the FLIR is the only reason to really use it. It's sooooo awesome. Just yesterday I strked the table with my cigarette and the glowing spot went off and flee *somewhere*. With FLOR it was a matter of seconds to spot it and verify there's no pending doom from it
19:17.34DocScrutinizer05fell*
19:17.43freemangordonfor some reason it tells you "turn left" 100 meters before you really have to
19:17.52DocScrutinizer05yeah sire
19:17.55DocScrutinizer05sure
19:18.21DocScrutinizer05I still have a look at the route at laerge before I start driving
19:18.48freemangordonafter that experience I always have sygic on n900 running in parallel :)
19:19.35DocScrutinizer05I got a good feeling for not taking a turn into a tiny way when it tells me to turn, when there's a huge street within vicinity. Until I approach my destination and small streets make sense
19:20.05freemangordonyeah, I know that feeling :)
19:21.03DocScrutinizer05anyway, this SHIT DAMN battery in S60, THANK YOU for giving me option for warranty replacement, just in time when they *finally* rooted that crappgone-S60
19:21.35DocScrutinizer05I'm so happy I didn't root it last week already
19:21.57DocScrutinizer05https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/help/cat-s60-snapdragon-617-rootable-t3433018/post73310026#post73310026
19:23.11DocScrutinizer05glares at those ridiculous tiny plastic chips. Called uSD and micro-SIM
19:32.20DocScrutinizer05http://maemo.cloud-7.de/et_al/S60-bulging/DSCF2712.JPG
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20:37.14freemangordonhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1534009#post1534009
20:37.27freemangordonprogress on fremantle porting to devuan
20:38.02freemangordonWizzup: parazyd: ^^^
20:39.41parazyd<3
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20:45.26parazydtomorrow Wizzup and i will continue a bit on our side with the packaging stuff
20:45.39parazydwe got quite far i'd say
20:49.47freemangordonI am waiting for arm builds to install it on my tablet :)
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20:51.28parazydyep!
20:52.19parazydbtw, how does the environment start? is there a login manager of some sort in place?
20:52.52freemangordonno login manager
20:53.11freemangordonuser is hardcoded in maemo - "user"
20:53.36freemangordonstartup process is still to be fixed, I have hard time with upstart
20:53.46parazydi see
20:54.20freemangordonhalf of the stuff is started via upstart, the other via Xsession.d
20:54.43freemangordonbut for sure there is lots of worc for /etc/init
20:54.46freemangordon*work
20:55.00parazydyeah... devuan plans for openrc eventually, so keep that in mind
20:55.07freemangordonalso, I think i am hitting some upstream bug as it seems dbus doesnt get started on bootup
20:55.35freemangordonI will, but I will need help with that one when it comes to it
20:55.57parazydopenrc is something i can help with :)
20:56.03freemangordoncool
20:56.04parazydprobably more of us here too
20:57.06freemangordonso far I fixed it to the point - "does it start somehow? YES, cool. leave it that way" :)
20:57.55parazyd:D
20:58.11KotCzarnygood enough tech [tm]
21:01.42freemangordonBTW, isn;t upstart supposed to start sysvrc scripts?
21:02.49parazydnever used upstart knowingly
21:03.09parazydsysvinit isn't doing it for you?
21:03.28freemangordonit is upstart that does the booting
21:04.45freemangordonhowever, enough for today, night
21:05.01parazydnight
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22:36.07Wizzupfreemangordon: loving the demo video
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