IRC log for #maemo on 20170831

01:15.58Oksana>> <KotCzarny> one can try different solutions,but when single photo can take tens of megabytes, it really sucks on low mem device << Large photographs are usually the ones user wants to see, in high resolution (though 800x480 may be enough). Small things are more annoying though. I do hope that web-browser doesn't load msapplication-square310x310l
01:15.58Oksanaogo image, and disregards all apple-touch-icons , too
01:28.50OksanaHow difficult to get this working on maemo? https://sourceforge.net/projects/lightfirefox/files/49rc/ GTK+ is 2.14.7 on Maemo 5 (right?), not 2.18. gLibc is confusing, too (do we have 2.17?). Other than that, dependencies are fine.
01:54.47*** join/#maemo Vajb (~Vajb@85-76-0-33-nat.elisa-mobile.fi)
02:29.45*** join/#maemo at1as (~at1as@kurios.r4780y.com)
03:39.25*** join/#maemo povbot (~supybot@office.pov.lt)
03:43.11*** join/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.81.26.157)
03:44.40*** join/#maemo bgl_ (~bgl@36.81.26.157)
03:44.55bgl_hello
03:45.00*** part/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.81.26.157)
03:45.22bgl_does somebody using double power battery on n900?
04:08.44sunshaviOksana: libc 2.5.1 on my device
04:10.16OksanagLibc and libc are the same thing? Then yes, it's a dependency problem, too
04:10.32Oksanabgl_ : not me
04:12.13bgl_how many days your phone will last with one charge ? Oksana
04:16.40OksanaUsually one day, recently lasted two days on one charged battery
04:18.56bgl_with normal usage or mostly idle ?
04:21.33OksanaNormal usage. As in, about one or two phone calls a day, half of the time connected to WiFi, checking email, browsing the web about an hour per day, cellular on all the time...
04:23.39OksanaAnd it's not the best uptime it's possible to get. I am sure that my huge (60MB el-v1.db) database of calls-and-SMS-and-IRC  plus 3k of images plus 600+ of photographs use a lot of RAM and make tracker fairly slow?
04:23.56Oksana600+ of audio files * ^
04:24.08Oksana3k of images (including photographs) ^^
04:25.14OksanaUse a lot of RAM => heavy swapping => probably drains battery, no idea if it is so
04:25.37Oksana~botsnack
04:25.37infobotthanks, Oksana
04:25.38bgl_do you use sd card to swap ?
04:25.54bgl_what kernel do you use?
04:26.47OksanaNo, I haven't set up any swapping and I don't have any microSD card inserted. This device in particular is pre-owned, so it came with power kernel
04:27.05Oksana2.6.28-10power52
04:39.49*** join/#maemo spiiroin (~spiiroin@194.157.27.2)
04:47.10*** join/#maemo rhn (~rhn@p4FD1D351.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
04:47.10*** join/#maemo rhn (~rhn@unaffiliated/rhn)
05:05.47*** join/#maemo bonggie_ (~bonggie@36.73.45.233)
05:17.49bgl_Hmm I think using microSD drain battery a little bit
05:18.15*** part/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.73.45.233)
05:18.29*** join/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.73.45.233)
05:18.36*** part/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.73.45.233)
05:18.47*** join/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.73.45.233)
05:19.49*** part/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.73.45.233)
05:20.10bgl_Oksana do you use cssu ?
05:20.25*** join/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.73.45.233)
05:20.48*** part/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.73.45.233)
05:20.59*** join/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.73.45.233)
05:21.06*** part/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.73.45.233)
05:25.47*** join/#maemo jonwil (~jonwil@27-33-80-219.tpgi.com.au)
05:29.56OksanaYes
05:30.09OksanaCSSU-thumb
05:32.28*** join/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.73.45.233)
05:32.37*** part/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.73.45.233)
05:33.31*** join/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.73.45.233)
05:35.06bgl_on the battery meter, how much mAh on full charge ?
05:35.10*** part/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.73.45.233)
05:37.24OksanaCurrently, it says 832/1277 mAh. But does it make any sense when I have half a dozen of different batteries? How does it know the capacity of the battery?
05:46.14jonwilUpdating the root CA certificates is easy :)
05:47.14*** join/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.73.45.233)
05:48.17bonggieTutorial please :)
05:48.41*** part/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.73.45.233)
05:50.02bgl_Oksana i'm using BNF apps to check capacity battery. But the value is different from CSSU battery. From BNF I got 2000mAh but from CSSU battery only 12xxmAh
05:50.38bgl_I tried to calibrate but still don't work, and sadly, now my battery detected as 15xxmAh
05:50.48*** join/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.73.45.233)
05:51.00*** part/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.73.45.233)
05:51.26jonwilUpdating the root CA certificates is easy :)
06:33.48*** join/#maemo dmth|intevation (~dmth|inte@2001:470:747a:2a:6af7:28ff:fe64:1ded)
06:34.54*** join/#maemo Kabouik (~kabouik@2a01:e35:2fd3:5030:e142:c406:c878:1d89)
06:35.46*** join/#maemo crazyguy` (~user@2a02:a450:2b18:1:721e:30e0:4b75:71cc)
06:36.01*** join/#maemo err0r3o3 (~err0r3o3@178.165.131.127.wireless.dyn.drei.com)
06:36.33*** join/#maemo Pali (~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali)
06:39.26*** join/#maemo ceene (~ceene@collins.gmr.ssr.upm.es)
06:47.51*** join/#maemo xorly (~xorly@ip-86-49-24-93.net.upcbroadband.cz)
07:23.01*** join/#maemo freemangordon_ (~ivo@195.128.225.2)
07:43.33*** join/#maemo geaaru (~geaaru@host170-152-static.43-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it)
08:04.47*** join/#maemo err0r3o3 (~err0r3o3@178.165.131.127.wireless.dyn.drei.com)
08:04.51*** join/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.73.45.233)
08:09.27buZz05:08:48 < antonok[m]> yeah, why don't we all just throw away our old android devices and get N900s instead :D
08:09.32buZzfrom #postmarketos
08:09.33buZz^_^
08:09.56KotCzarnywhat android devices? i only have 3 n900s and one n9
08:09.57WizzupN900s - is that the small version of the N900?
08:10.26KotCzarnybuzz, i'm still remembering about you, pity my self organization sucks
08:12.28KotCzarny*still remember
08:17.13*** join/#maemo jskarvad (jskarvad@nat/redhat/x-fuhcozibffhdyedf)
08:17.13*** join/#maemo jskarvad (jskarvad@redhat/jskarvad)
08:20.20buZz^_^
08:20.22buZzno rush
08:20.38buZzalthough my main n900 recently died in a cocacola bath ;(
08:20.57KotCzarnyi've misread as 'cocaine bath' and was wtf?
08:21.56buZz:)
08:21.56bencoh:/
08:27.24*** join/#maemo bgl_ (~bgl@36.81.26.157)
09:12.30*** join/#maemo err0r3o3 (~err0r3o3@178.115.129.136.wireless.dyn.drei.com)
09:19.21sicelo(gpsrecorder works very well for what i wanted to do in connection with my question yesterday)
09:45.37ceenehi guys!
09:45.42ceenei'm back from holydays :)
09:45.50KotCzarny'holidays'
09:45.54KotCzarnyand hi
09:45.55ceenei consider them holy
09:45.59bonggieHello
09:46.13ceenethere's anything holier than being on vacation :P
09:46.22KotCzarnydid you make the sacrifice?
09:46.23bonggieSleeping?
09:47.20ceenei sacrificed my well being by coming back to work
09:52.39bencohwelcome back :)
09:54.44ceenethanks! :)
09:54.49ceenehow's everything?
09:54.58ceeneanything interesting this last month?
10:15.16*** join/#maemo xy2_ (~xy2_@94.239.177.175)
10:18.37*** join/#maemo NotKit (~nekit@85-95-179-111.saransk.ru)
10:25.40*** join/#maemo drcode (~drcode@5.29.192.15)
10:34.29*** part/#maemo vahe[m] (vahediaspi@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-zkxpxttsoayqsomy)
10:50.34*** join/#maemo guerby (~guerby@april/board/guerby)
11:05.35*** join/#maemo xy2_ (~xy2_@94.239.253.5)
11:10.32*** join/#maemo florian_kc (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian)
11:14.42DocScrutinizer05ceene: well, you missed a bit around neo900
11:42.19*** join/#maemo dafox (~dafox@2a02:a448:c25a:1:7061:3b2a:37df:ded3)
11:42.29*** join/#maemo at1as (~at1as@kurios.r4780y.com)
11:46.16*** join/#maemo RzR (~RzR@82.236.136.171)
11:46.16*** join/#maemo N-Mi (~nicolas@adsl.n-mi.com)
11:46.17*** join/#maemo N-Mi (~nicolas@calvix/staff/N-Mi)
11:47.10*** join/#maemo spiiroin (~spiiroin@37-136-81-109.rev.dnainternet.fi)
12:07.17*** join/#maemo RzR (~RzR@82.236.136.171)
12:09.33*** join/#maemo jkepler (~Thunderbi@7a.3e.32a9.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com)
12:10.01*** join/#maemo Konsieur (~kabouik@2a01:e35:2fd3:5030:e142:c406:c878:1d89)
12:10.39*** join/#maemo Konsieur (~kabouik@2a01:e35:2fd3:5030:e142:c406:c878:1d89)
12:22.53*** join/#maemo err0r3o3 (~err0r3o3@178.115.129.136.wireless.dyn.drei.com)
12:26.20*** join/#maemo Wizzup (~Wizzup@a82-161-36-93.adsl.xs4all.nl)
12:45.56*** join/#maemo xy2_ (~xy2_@94.239.253.5)
12:49.38ceeneoh!
12:49.40ceenewhat happened?
13:44.19*** join/#maemo xy2_ (~xy2_@94.239.253.5)
14:25.22*** join/#maemo Tr4sK (~tr4sk@tony.biboum.fr)
14:25.37Tr4sKHey here :)
14:26.11Tr4sKJust got N900 back into my hand. Some of you are still playing with it?
14:26.21KotCzarnyall the time
14:27.18Tr4sKNice. I got really nostalgic about it few month ago. Decided to get some back
14:27.35KotCzarnyyou know the flashing drill or need reminding?
14:27.42DocScrutinizer05I'd not call it "playing"
14:28.47DocScrutinizer05~lf
14:28.47infobot[#maemo lazyflashing] http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach
14:29.46KotCzarnyyou could've waited for the answer before barging over
14:31.33bencohTr4sK: welcome back then :)
14:32.10bencohfreemangordon: have you tried hildon-desktop with llvmpipe?
14:32.14bencoh(on arm, that is)
14:33.07Tr4sKAfter upgrading the system I got a bootloop on my n900…
14:33.28KotCzarnyhow did you do it?
14:33.48Tr4sKapt-get update&& apt-get upgrade&& reboot
14:33.57KotCzarnynever do that
14:34.04Tr4sK:)
14:34.11KotCzarnyupdates should be always done via app manager
14:34.23KotCzarnyanyway, reflash and go into cssu
14:34.24bencohalthough upgrade (as opposed to dist-upgrade) might work
14:34.50KotCzarnybencoh, depends, as we saw, it's tricky ;)
14:34.50Tr4sKshould I run the lazyflashing?
14:34.53KotCzarnyyup
14:34.54*** join/#maemo at1as (~at1as@47-50-82-42.static.aldl.mi.charter.com)
14:35.02KotCzarnythen:
14:35.04KotCzarny~cssu
14:35.04infobotmethinks cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update)
14:35.23DocScrutinizer05~tell Tr4sKabout jrtools
14:35.31DocScrutinizer05~tell Tr4sK about jrtools
14:36.36bencohTr4sK: assuming you don't care about the data
14:36.48KotCzarnyhe/she said it's new one
14:42.05Tr4sKyep
14:42.37Tr4sKAny other distro than maemo still available?
14:43.00Tr4sKI remember some pentesting distro, clean debian…
14:43.34DocScrutinizer05pawn900
14:43.41DocScrutinizer05not updated since ages
14:44.08DocScrutinizer05all the tools there are genuinely available for maemo too though, afaik
14:44.43DocScrutinizer05maemo basically _is_ "clean debian"
14:45.01DocScrutinizer05just with added goodies
14:45.11DocScrutinizer05and a slightly different init system
14:46.24Tr4sKGreat :)
14:47.12DocScrutinizer05pwnie express been the name
14:47.39DocScrutinizer05pr pwnphone
14:48.51DocScrutinizer05intriguing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzg3bsP-4Eg watch the procimity sensor flashing IR
14:49.45DocScrutinizer05shows the OS isn't optimized, shouldn't run as long as there's no point in knowing about proximity (when screen blanked anyway)
14:50.13DocScrutinizer05those are the little diffs between maemo5 and a generic debian/whatever distro
14:51.31DocScrutinizer05or maybe I'm mistaken on that one
14:57.03DocScrutinizer05meh, indeed N1540 optical switch aka proxy and N1530 aka ALS share a plain uncontrolled/unswitched V25 VCC
15:13.36*** join/#maemo err0r3o3 (~err0r3o3@194-166-171-34.adsl.highway.telekom.at)
15:22.26Tr4sKHey, so I flashed my first device without issue. The second one crashes on Finishing flashing... done
15:22.29Tr4sKProgramming CMT:   9%Sending request 0x12 failed: No such device
15:22.31Tr4sKsorry, flashing RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin (NOLO, rootfs, modem-fw) failed with errorcode 0
15:22.46KotCzarnyhuhu, bad flash by previous owner
15:22.53KotCzarnyor simply dead modem :/
15:23.04bencoh:/
15:23.12bencohdoesn't sound cool
15:23.28Tr4sKNope doesn’t
15:23.50KotCzarnyi think it should still work, just as a pda
15:24.05KotCzarnyor portable linux machine
15:24.13Tr4sKShould I try to boot ?
15:24.28Tr4sKI don’t plan to put any simcard inside for now
15:28.12*** join/#maemo ecc3g (~eccerr0r@2602:46:3913:b400:5054:ff:fe37:7e04)
15:35.17Tr4sKReboot worked
15:45.28*** join/#maemo Pali (~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali)
15:55.12Tr4sKI would like to do SSH on my N900 via USB
15:58.16sicelowhy not wifi?
15:58.30siceloanyway USB possible too .. works fine. see wiki
16:54.17*** join/#maemo pagurus (~user@i59F7C90C.versanet.de)
17:17.21*** join/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.73.45.233)
17:32.01*** join/#maemo xy2_ (~xy2_@94.239.253.5)
18:07.25*** join/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.78.52.7)
18:11.31*** join/#maemo rhn (~rhn@p4FD1D351.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
18:11.31*** join/#maemo rhn (~rhn@unaffiliated/rhn)
18:13.44*** join/#maemo florian (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian)
18:22.56*** join/#maemo rhn_mk1 (~rhn@unaffiliated/rhn)
18:43.29*** join/#maemo pagurus (~user@i59F7CFA0.versanet.de)
18:47.38*** join/#maemo xy2_ (~xy2_@94.239.177.175)
18:49.43*** join/#maemo xy2_ (~xy2_@94.239.177.175)
19:00.52*** join/#maemo luke-jr (~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr)
19:40.20DocScrutinizer05>>failed with errorcode 0<<  is that a fsckup in my lazyflashing script?
19:40.45DocScrutinizer05I admit I didn't test the error cases
19:41.02KotCzarnytest flashing broken modem
19:42.27*** join/#maemo err0r3o3 (~err0r3o3@62-46-157-37.adsl.highway.telekom.at)
19:43.37DocScrutinizer05hmmm   http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir_v2/flash-it-all.sh
19:43.58DocScrutinizer05should practice more shellscript
19:44.54DocScrutinizer05bash should be a lil bit more like c
19:45.07KotCzarnythere are c-like shells
19:45.21KotCzarnysimplest example being csh
19:51.20*** join/#maemo jkepler (~Thunderbi@2a01:e35:2f37:400:f57d:7527:fb64:6741)
19:56.34*** join/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.78.52.7)
19:57.31*** join/#maemo Konsieur (~kabouik@2a01:e35:2fd3:5030:e142:c406:c878:1d89)
20:24.36*** join/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.78.52.7)
20:46.08*** join/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.78.52.7)
20:56.09*** join/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.78.52.7)
21:47.17*** join/#maemo r00t-home (~r00t@port-92-196-122-198.dynamic.qsc.de)
22:15.14*** join/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.78.52.7)
22:55.56*** join/#maemo luke-jr (~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr)
23:19.57*** join/#maemo pagurus` (~user@i5387B1E6.versanet.de)
23:45.52*** join/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.78.52.7)
23:58.23*** join/#maemo bonggie (~bonggie@36.73.76.231)
23:59.45*** join/#maemo Cor-Ai (~cor-ai@c-17d571d5.06-922-7570702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)

Generated by irclog2html.pl Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot.