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09:53.31VajbMr_Pingu: my box is still building git clone :D 38h and im at 70% building deltas. So don't hold your breath at least yet.
09:55.35KotCzarnyvajb: told you to use --depth 1
09:56.08KotCzarnyvajb: a lot fewer items to compare
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10:45.58VajbKotCzarny: well u did, but machine was already on it so :/
10:46.35KotCzarnystill, for funsies you can do it in another dir for comparison, once the current clone finishes
10:46.55Vajbbtw i set the limits "kernel-config limits 250 250", but conky shows that cpu is at 500Mhz
10:48.03Vajbi know it adds to that, but i thought first that it was lowest and highest frequency
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10:49.11VajbKotCzarny: maybe i give it a go. I think that around 48 hours it should finnish. I should have done it via ssh tho since process completely stalls my pc...
10:49.43KotCzarnywhat is the command?
10:50.28Vajblook wiki devuan on n900
10:50.32Vajbfirst command
10:51.05KotCzarnythis one?  git --work-tree=../linux-4.10.8 checkout linux-4.10.y -- .
10:51.58KotCzarnyahm no.
10:52.06KotCzarnythis? git clone https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git
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10:54.16KotCzarnyhttps://pastebin.com/raw/AvV73u1s
10:54.22KotCzarnytook whole 88s
10:54.23KotCzarny;)
10:55.39Vajbhaha
10:55.53Vajbthings surely have changed a bit
10:56.02KotCzarnylinux has a long history, and without --depth you are checking WHOLE history
10:56.33Vajbso u did it with ur hint setting?
10:56.40KotCzarnysee pastebin
10:57.27Vajbyes seems so
10:57.33Vajb170ish mb
10:59.11MaxdamantusSeems like it shouldn't take 38h though, unless you're running it on an N900 or something.
10:59.31KotCzarnyhe said 'pc'
10:59.44MaxdamantusYeah, I noticed.
10:59.54KotCzarnylets see what is the clone size with all history
11:00.11Vajbwell it is 1.3ghz athlon tb
11:00.12MaxdamantusIt should be 2 GB or so.
11:00.29Maxdamantusor maybe 3
11:00.32Vajbso it is like two n900 connected hehe
11:00.52KotCzarnynah, x86 beats arm performance wise
11:00.54KotCzarnya lot
11:01.19KotCzarny6mln objects vs 64k objects
11:01.29KotCzarny100x more
11:02.01Vajbye
11:02.18KotCzarnyfor funsies i'm running full command too
11:02.18MaxdamantusThat doesn't mean it'll take 100x longer.
11:02.32KotCzarnymaxd: checking 6 mln files could take a while
11:02.46MaxdamantusIt shouldn't be checking 6 mln files.
11:02.48Vajbwell pc has time and i've planned that long time so im not in a rush
11:02.59MaxdamantusIt should be checking a couple of pack/idx files.
11:03.10KotCzarnyvajb: dont you have that shine new/old thinkpad?
11:03.30KotCzarny*shiny
11:03.37Vajbyup it's my daily machine with win 7
11:03.44KotCzarnyrun virtualbox on it?
11:03.48Vajbthis is just my storage with new devuan os
11:03.49KotCzarnywith linux inside
11:03.55Maxdamantusand maybe a couple of hundred or so small objects that have been added since the last gc
11:04.46Vajbi was thinking of running live distro on it, but haven't got that far yet
11:05.02KotCzarnynah, just install normal linux in vbox
11:05.17Vajbwell this says it has received 1.24GiB
11:05.18KotCzarnyupgrade memory to the max and have some fun
11:05.33KotCzarnyi'm doing it on mine
11:05.48Vajbit has 8gb mem. Should be enough?
11:06.00KotCzarny2 gigs for win7, and 6 for jessie64 for my android builds
11:06.16KotCzarnyyeah, 8 is plenty
11:06.35KotCzarnyunless you start cloning vms like rabbits ;)
11:06.52Vajbcould u provide any recommend "virtualbox for dummies" link?
11:07.03KotCzarnyum, it's VERY simple app
11:07.08KotCzarnyreally, just download and install
11:07.16Vajbah so it is an app
11:07.31KotCzarnyyup, windows style app, clicky clicky
11:10.11KotCzarnyfun, that git command eats ~1GB of mem during deltas resolve
11:10.20KotCzarnymost likely your pc is swapping like hell
11:12.34MaxdamantusThat could explain it.
11:13.23KotCzarnyyay, took whole 12:45 minutes
11:13.43KotCzarnyhttps://pastebin.com/raw/4kS0hqng
11:14.05Vajbyes probably. It has like .7Gb of memory...
11:14.13KotCzarnyi've cheated a bit by doing it on tmpfs
11:14.24MaxdamantusWhich is a lot less than 100× 1:28 minutes
11:14.37KotCzarnybut it's similar laptop to yours, t500, 8GB mem, core2duo@2.4ghz
11:14.45Vajboh well it'll be done before year end :)
11:15.12KotCzarnysetup vbox on win7, install debian64, work there ;)
11:15.21KotCzarnygive it 6gb of ram for a good measure
11:15.22Vajbhoho mine seems to pack a bit more punch ;)
11:15.31KotCzarnycore i5?
11:15.34KotCzarnyeven better
11:15.44Vajbi5 yes
11:16.00Vajb2540 i beleive
11:16.01KotCzarnyyou probably finish faster on it than poor athlon
11:16.30Vajbshame im on a rush so can't get on to it today...
11:17.13Vajbbut it is getting all more likely that i'll have to retire him soon. Athlon i mean...
11:17.41KotCzarnyyup, even electricity wise that laptop uses fraction of pc watts
11:18.06KotCzarnyif you need screen estate connect external monitor
11:18.28Vajboh yeah that reminds. Are there any power batteries for sale for thinkpads?
11:18.40KotCzarnywhat's power battery?
11:18.59Vajbthe one which had juice for 8h for example
11:19.05Vajbhas*
11:19.05KotCzarnyhmm
11:19.12KotCzarnyis your 8cell or smaller?
11:19.25Vajbi think 8cell
11:19.49KotCzarnyis it old? what does thinkpad battery monitor say?
11:21.48KotCzarnythough in normal office work laptop uses ~20-25Watt
11:21.57KotCzarnyand 8 cell is ~60-70Wh
11:22.46KotCzarnyerm. 84Wh
11:23.14KotCzarny6 cell is ~56Wh
11:24.44KotCzarnyi guess you could get some external powerbank for laptops
11:25.35Vajbmonitor says it is at good health
11:26.21KotCzarnyyou can also try finding 30W solar panel ;)
11:26.28KotCzarny30W@20V
11:26.35KotCzarnybut it could be quite big
11:27.20KotCzarnyor... just get car accu and some voltage regulator ;)
11:28.26KotCzarny60Ah@12V means ~720Wh
11:30.06KotCzarnydrat
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14:14.35Vajbhah @ solar panel. Would work neatly inside :p
14:15.01KotCzarnyhow about mobile wind turbine then? :P
14:16.28Vajblol
14:16.41Vajbi hope ac is over the top then
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15:33.19freemangordonanybody can help with glib signal/marshallers? as I think I found a nasty bug in hildon-plugins-notify-sv, but I need confirmation
15:34.15freemangordonthere is a dbus service nsv-decoder-service, which has gobject of type NsvDecoderService
15:34.31freemangordonin its clas init function it registers 2 signals
15:34.35freemangordon*class
15:34.57freemangordon"decoded" and "error-decoding"
15:35.35freemangordonsee https://pastebin.com/kD5urRzy
15:36.47freemangordonnow, the first signal has 2 parameters of type G_TYPE_STRING and returns void, but the marshaller is nsv_marshal_VOID__STRING_STRING_STRING. similar for the second signal
15:37.10freemangordonPali: ^^^?
15:42.47DocScrutinizer05how I hate it >:-(  every second website rises such shite lately  http://wstaw.org/m/2017/08/12/plasma-desktopkJ2346.png
15:43.36Palido not know
15:44.22freemangordonI asked on #gtk+, lets see
15:44.30DocScrutinizer05BS website X embeds even worse BS SSL ads with expired cert
15:44.38freemangordonhowever, if anybody here knows the answer :)...
15:46.55DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: simple yes/no answer. Is this mashalling stuff about dbus proxy that loads and runs the real receiving process only when some signal or message on dbus is addressed towards receiver?
15:48.43freemangordonno. it is "definition" of a signal of a GObjectClass successor
15:49.03freemangordonтхоугх дбус проьъ хас марсхаллинг стуфф ас велл
15:49.06freemangordonsorry
15:49.19freemangordonthough dbus proxy has marshalling stuff as well
15:49.22DocScrutinizer05btw same above pastebin URL also made konqueror allocate ~6GB RAM and counting with 100% CPU, until I killed it
15:49.36freemangordonfix your browser
15:49.51DocScrutinizer05JS bullshit in ads
15:50.10freemangordonmozilla with uBlock origin has no problems with it
15:50.16DocScrutinizer05sure
15:51.11DocScrutinizer05konqueror JS is old crap. However it's way too easy to write shite in JS that does such rogue stuff unless the JS engine and hosting browser takes special care to avoid it
15:51.35freemangordonyeah, web 2, you know :(
15:51.41DocScrutinizer05indeed
15:52.00freemangordontrash clients' browsers, who cares
15:52.14freemangordonput all the nodejs and whatnot shit on it
15:55.32DocScrutinizer05they didn't think one second about safeguards of any kind in their JS definition, and they should get shot with owl dung because they didn't
15:58.18DocScrutinizer05"open new windows, sure let's implement that, sounds great" - this sort of brainfart. Everybody with one working ganglion vould see you want limit that in a few reasonable ways, like "not more than 5 per instance. Not allowed for subprocesses that already are a window opened by that function" or whatever
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16:00.00DocScrutinizer05they didn't and the result was fun with a bazillion advertisment windows spammed over your desktop, you couldn't close them as fast as they open
16:00.31DocScrutinizer05then they wend "oh, we might want to add something to stop that" - and failed again, in some other way
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