| 00:03.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw it seems like for N900, busybox-power as system shell actually reduces availble free space on /, vs busybox('normal') and gnu utils on opt |
| 00:04.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | reason: system shell can't live on /opt. And busybox-power of course is larger than busybox-'normal' |
| 00:06.31 | Wizzup | 'huge busybox binary needs to get loaded' sounds kind of weird |
| 00:06.39 | Wizzup | It usually lives in the cache |
| 00:13.38 | Wizzup | and linux also doesn't need to load the whole binary either |
| 00:14.10 | Wizzup | that's usually loaded on demand |
| 00:14.41 | Wizzup | so I'm not sure how much that really matters. |
| 00:15.58 | Wizzup | #justtechnicalthings |
| 00:29.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not going to embarrass myself by answering with a quote |
| 00:33.55 | Juesto | its difficult to find a n900 nowdays |
| 00:33.56 | Juesto | derp |
| 00:34.38 | Juesto | how does busybox behaves on something like Mach |
| 00:34.40 | Juesto | or BSD? |
| 00:36.18 | Wizzup | busybox is for linux |
| 00:36.32 | Wizzup | actually, I am not sure about that |
| 00:37.04 | Wizzup | I know BSD was working on their own - http://landley.net/code/toybox/ |
| 00:37.42 | Wizzup | https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/busybox/ |
| 00:37.49 | Wizzup | there's your answer |
| 00:37.55 | Wizzup | the same as on most posix compliant OSes I guess |
| 00:40.09 | Juesto | hm |
| 00:43.01 | Wizzup | almost 3am. |
| 00:43.03 | Wizzup | ttyl |
| 00:52.44 | Oksana | Like Nokia N900, but without keyboard and FM transmitter, apparently. http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_s8500_wave-3146.php Also, capacitive touchscreen, not resistive. Similar processor, same 800x480 display resolution. |
| 00:53.44 | Oksana | Possible to change OS on it: https://www.sammobile.com/2012/06/26/android-port-for-the-samsung-wave-gt-s8500/ |
| 00:55.26 | Oksana | wonders whether it would be a nice porting target for Maemo 5... But let's check first if the Android port managed to get cellular to work. |
| 00:55.43 | Wizzup | why not droid4? |
| 00:59.06 | Oksana | Either I am very poor at search, or something, because I cannot find droid 4 on EBay |
| 00:59.19 | Oksana | Or Gumtree |
| 00:59.24 | Oksana | At the same time, https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/bonbeach/other-phones/samsung-wave-gt-s-8500-mobile-phone/1153376589 |
| 01:01.44 | Wizzup | motorola droid 4 |
| 01:02.58 | Oksana | Yes, I searched for motorola droid 4. Nice article in Wikipedia... |
| 01:04.43 | Wizzup | i got 4 from ebay, arriving tomorrow |
| 01:12.16 | Oksana | Nice :-) |
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| 01:41.28 | stryngs | Anyone at DEFCON this yr? |
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| 08:19.36 | buZz | dangit, knew i forgot something when i arrived home >_< |
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| 23:28.31 | mike727 | Has anyone heard of a 'rocker switch' failing? Got another n900. I'm guessing a setting was made to disable the 'rocker switch'. |
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| 23:37.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | volume? |
| 23:37.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | mapped to uurc F6/F7 of keyboard |
| 23:37.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc* |
| 23:38.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | it has different functions depending on if and which app has focus |
| 23:39.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | so "failing" is a tad fuzzy |
| 23:39.46 | mike727 | Oh yes, I'll test zoom with the browser |
| 23:50.14 | mike727 | Yes, zoom works; cancelling out hardware fault. Thanks. Will obviously flash it soon, there is ~100 installed apps to play with first. :) |