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| 00:23.05 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~lf ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 14:37.40 | sicelo | Vajb & halftux .. the problem is not necessarily the changelog. :( |
| 14:38.35 | sicelo | actually the first perl-enabled irssi i built had a problem - the deb had source files too :p |
| 14:39.17 | sicelo | but that also meant the perl libs were packaged. now i'm building properly, and the perl libs are missing |
| 14:39.56 | sicelo | s/the changelog/those lines in the rules file/ |
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| 14:41.25 | sicelo | there is something that i'm missing which should also build the perl libs (destined for /usr/lib/perl/5.8) and have them included in the deb. unfortunately adding `--with-perl-lib=vendor` as irssi in debian has, doesn't help |
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| 14:55.32 | KotCzarny | for anyone loving systemd: http://www.securitynewspaper.com/2017/06/29/critical-flaw-allows-hacking-linux-machines-just-malicious-dns-response/ |
| 15:15.39 | Juesto | hmm |
| 15:17.48 | bencoh | KotCzarny: they forgot to mention that the vuln doesn't sit in the init process but in resolved, which should run unprivileged |
| 15:18.10 | bencoh | (well, they do mention that it's in resolved, tbh, but still) |
| 15:18.35 | L29Ah | so it can spread itself and mine bitcoin at least |
| 15:23.26 | bencoh | :] |
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| 16:03.59 | buZz | hinv: couple more ppl know about n900's in here, vs #zipit ;) |
| 16:04.37 | hinv | I suppose |
| 16:04.48 | hinv | I didn't know this existed |
| 16:05.24 | buZz | there is very slow progress porting maemo to newer linux distros |
| 16:05.47 | buZz | might not get finished ever though :P |
| 16:06.08 | buZz | hinv: but the 'neo900' project will use a newer linux aswell, most probably |
| 16:06.12 | bencoh | doh actually they might very well succeed |
| 16:06.15 | buZz | and that will get done eventually |
| 16:06.24 | buZz | bencoh: oh, yes, totally |
| 16:06.36 | buZz | we both said the exact same :P |
| 16:06.55 | buZz | might not is always the same as might |
| 16:07.01 | bencoh | :( |
| 16:07.52 | hinv | my n900 was the most useful phone I have ever used because of linux |
| 16:07.59 | hinv | android just doesn't cut it for me |
| 16:08.46 | hinv | shure would like n900 functionality with a lot more memory (3GB) and an octa-core processor though |
| 16:09.40 | joga | I still use my n900, but recently got a work phone with android, it's mighty powerful in comparison but dat touch keyboard...argh |
| 16:10.06 | buZz | hinv: how about a pyra? :D |
| 16:10.14 | bencoh | uh-uh |
| 16:10.19 | buZz | https://pyra-handheld.com/ |
| 16:12.09 | joga | that looks like... pandora |
| 16:12.13 | joga | oh, right, it is :) |
| 16:13.11 | Vajb | sicelo: no rush :) |
| 16:17.04 | buZz | joga: same ppl yeah |
| 16:17.19 | buZz | case is gonna get a redesign (using same innards) later on in productive lifespan |
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| 17:01.01 | Wizzup | buZz: got your pyra yet? |
| 17:03.43 | buZz | i'm not a dev, so no early prototype for me |
| 17:03.55 | buZz | i've played with some pyras already |
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| 17:31.22 | sicelo | Vajb: it sucks though .. pissing me off a bit haha |
| 17:32.15 | sicelo | i'm trying to understand debian's dh_perl .. that's where solution might lie as far as i can tell |
| 17:33.08 | sicelo | i really understand now why Max originally decided to not include support for perl in irssi |
| 17:34.40 | ceene | debian packagin is insanely complex, i guess because building software written in a insane number of differente languages and building systems is insane in itself :) |
| 17:34.44 | ceene | hi! :) |
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| 17:37.00 | sicelo | hi hi ceene :-) |
| 17:37.36 | ceene | i saw maemo mail yesterday, I see you're to be a councilman! |
| 17:39.12 | sicelo | because you were not available .. you'd have made a great one |
| 17:39.27 | sicelo | :) |
| 17:39.59 | sicelo | ceene: do you understand my problem with building? maybe you have better idea |
| 17:40.26 | ceene | i haven't read much, what is it that is blocking you? |
| 17:42.30 | sicelo | building irssi with perl - in addition to building all the files for irssi, it should also build perl libs that should get saved to /usr/lib/perl/5.8. it seems these actually get built, but for some weird reason, when the deb gets created, these are not included |
| 17:45.34 | ceene | no idea, sorry |
| 17:46.13 | ceene | i guess you're working directly with irssi from maemo repos, aren't you? |
| 17:50.14 | sicelo | that one doesn't have perl support. |
| 17:50.52 | sicelo | i have very bad Internet too - guess i should continue with this later |
| 17:50.57 | ceene | only because it is disabled |
| 17:51.09 | ceene | # dh_perl |
| 17:51.44 | sicelo | i removed that in SB now - same situation. that's why i am looking into what exactly dh_perl does |
| 17:52.03 | ceene | you also need to modify another thingy |
| 17:52.25 | sicelo | which :) |
| 17:52.34 | ceene | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:52.41 | sicelo | i do think so - but can't yet figure out what it should be |
| 17:52.56 | ceene | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:53.02 | sicelo | mmm, that's handled in ./configure |
| 17:53.08 | sicelo | i did that too |
| 17:53.12 | ceene | but defined on debian/rules |
| 17:53.26 | sicelo | yes, that's where i did it |
| 17:53.30 | ceene | oh, ok |
| 17:53.47 | ceene | then maybe, instead of --with-perl-lib=vendor maybe you need --with-perl-lib=site ? |
| 17:53.56 | ceene | this thing doesn't build for me |
| 17:53.57 | ceene | /scratchbox/tools/lib/perl5/5.8.4/i686-linux-thread-multi/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a: could not read symbols: File in wrong format |
| 17:54.10 | ceene | but it can be because my scratchbox could be too fucked up |
| 17:54.22 | sicelo | no it's not :) |
| 17:55.13 | ceene | [sbox-FREMANTLE_ARMEL: /tmp/neo/tt] > ar x /scratchbox/tools/lib/perl5/5.8.4/i686-linux-thread-multi/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a |
| 17:55.16 | ceene | [sbox-FREMANTLE_ARMEL: /tmp/neo/tt] > ls |
| 17:55.17 | sicelo | you need an SBOX_REDIRECT_IGNORE directive |
| 17:55.19 | ceene | DynaLoader.o irssi-0.8.14 irssi_0.8.14-6.dsc irssi_0.8.14-6.tar.gz |
| 17:55.21 | ceene | [sbox-FREMANTLE_ARMEL: /tmp/neo/tt] > file DynaLoader.o |
| 17:55.24 | ceene | DynaLoader.o: ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped |
| 17:55.35 | sicelo | how are you building? |
| 17:55.51 | ceene | simply running dpkg-buildpackage |
| 17:56.12 | sicelo | ah yes .. you're building the non-perl one |
| 17:56.31 | sicelo | get an updated rules file |
| 17:56.46 | sicelo | can edit the one in 0.8.21-2 |
| 17:57.00 | ceene | this is overtly complex |
| 17:57.19 | sicelo | mainly you need some SBOX_REDIRECT_IGNORE lines |
| 17:57.53 | sicelo | Max saved himself a lot of headache for sure :) |
| 18:00.25 | ceene | yep, this is insanely frustrating |
| 18:01.33 | sicelo | maybe halftux will chime in. |
| 18:01.40 | sicelo | i'll keep trying too |
| 18:03.47 | sicelo | going offline now due to crazy network |
| 18:03.57 | ceene | cya! |
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