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| 14:17.11 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~lf ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
| 14:17.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~useless |
| 14:17.17 | infobot | ACTION starts crying and hides from docscrutinizer05 in the darkest corner of the room. :( |
| 14:17.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | wonders what Tim Riker does on that server |
| 14:17.50 | sicelo | ~dumb |
| 14:17.51 | infobot | ACTION thinks that sumone is drunk, idiotic or a robot abuser. |
| 14:18.35 | sixwheeledbeast^ | sumone? |
| 14:18.45 | sixwheeledbeast^ | ~sumone |
| 14:18.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo dumb |
| 14:18.45 | infobot | dumb -- created by BZFlag <timr@rikers.org> at Sat Nov 23 18:25:37 2002 (5323 days); it has been requested 21 times, last by sicelo, 55s ago. |
| 14:18.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | LOL |
| 14:19.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | blame Tim |
| 14:19.19 | sixwheeledbeast^ | ~blametim |
| 14:19.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~timriker's pager |
| 14:19.39 | infobot | hmm... timriker's pager is mailto:Tim@Rikers.org |
| 14:19.59 | sicelo | :-) |
| 14:21.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~blame TimRiker |
| 14:21.27 | infobot | ACTION blames TimRiker (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 14:21.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
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| 14:33.37 | Wikiwide | ShadowJK: crop does accept four parameters, it turns out. "crop=w:h:left:top" |
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| 14:39.10 | Wikiwide | Does hildon-welcome video have to be an avi, or can it be an mp4? Bootscreen manager accepts only avi, for whatever reason? |
| 14:41.17 | KotCzarny | did you try renaming mp4 to avi? |
| 14:41.36 | Wikiwide | Shall try. |
| 14:43.28 | freemangordon | Wikiwide: https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-welcome/blob/master/src/main.c |
| 14:43.50 | Wikiwide | And, Media Player starts saying media format not supported to videos it previously played fine. What bug is it, and how to get it working again? Except reboot (which will help, I know, but I do not want to have to do it right now) |
| 14:44.15 | Wikiwide | freemangordon: opening |
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| 15:06.24 | Wikiwide | Okay, so as long as it is playable, file format doesn't matter. It could be ogg, it would still play it? |
| 15:07.30 | KotCzarny | probably it's just passing name to video player |
| 15:07.41 | KotCzarny | want to play nokia dongle? ;) |
| 15:08.04 | Wizzup | KotCzarny: you interested in helping out w/ devuan+fremantle/maemo on top of it? |
| 15:08.12 | Wikiwide | What is dongle? And if I remember correctly, h264 codec is recommended because it's sort of native format, less likely to stutter during decoding. |
| 15:08.29 | KotCzarny | wikiwide: sorry, i meant 'jingle' |
| 15:08.37 | KotCzarny | wizzup: how? |
| 15:08.58 | Wikiwide | Nokia Tune? |
| 15:09.28 | KotCzarny | wikiwide: yeah, turudumdum, turudumdum, turudumdum dum dum |
| 15:09.51 | Wikiwide | One of my goals with boot-up video is making it quiet, akin to growing grass, so that I would not have to silence my N900 just because I am changing battery. |
| 15:10.18 | KotCzarny | just remove initial video |
| 15:10.27 | KotCzarny | no point to have it at all |
| 15:11.08 | Wikiwide | Videoless is boring. By the way, does the video slow down the boot-up process, or does it just eat the blinking dots? |
| 15:11.35 | KotCzarny | most likely it's played using dsp, so mostly eating your battery a little |
| 15:11.45 | Wikiwide | Because the hands video is 4 seconds, and the mp4 I am feeding to it is 30 seconds at least. |
| 15:12.12 | Wizzup | KotCzarny: build packages, make sure packages build, install it on a n900, etc |
| 15:12.36 | KotCzarny | wizzup: so testing? |
| 15:12.45 | Wizzup | also development I guess |
| 15:12.51 | freemangordon | Wizzup: why n900? |
| 15:12.56 | Wizzup | ok, not just n900 |
| 15:13.02 | Wizzup | sorry, I didn't mean to limit the scope :) |
| 15:13.15 | freemangordon | x86-64 VM would be less way easier |
| 15:13.28 | Wizzup | fair enough |
| 15:13.31 | freemangordon | or 32bit should not matter |
| 15:13.33 | Wikiwide | If I remember correctly, by the time video begins, the user can black out the screen. Which may help with conserving the battery. |
| 15:14.11 | freemangordon | bencoh: hi. are you going to package libplayback or you won;t have time to do it? |
| 15:15.01 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: your allwinner is a perfect target :) |
| 15:16.39 | Wikiwide | Interesting : ffmpeg doesn't have to decode-encode when time-cutting videos. Hence, media player doesn't have to eat CPU when display is blacked out: it either pauses the video, or walks through frames without actually decoding them. |
| 15:17.30 | Wikiwide | Samsung NX300 is interesting in the sense of having 800x480 display and Tizen OS (aka relatively open firmware?) |
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| 15:21.03 | KotCzarny | wizzup, ask me tomorrow ~10am (cet time) |
| 15:21.35 | Wikiwide | Also, what's the difference between Devuan and AntiX? |
| 15:23.33 | freemangordon | Wizzup: while we are at it, what all those mails on devuan-dev re amprolla actually mean? I was unable to understand :) |
| 15:23.53 | freemangordon | xes_: what has happened with maemo-developers ML? |
| 15:24.52 | Wizzup | freemangordon: mostly same here. I think there are one or two open questions on how to get jenkins (their builder) to use the new amprolla-merged repos. parazyd told me it should not be a lot of work |
| 15:25.02 | Wizzup | let's hope it doesn't drag on for too long |
| 15:25.16 | parazyd | knowing them, it could |
| 15:25.53 | Wizzup | so your suggestion was to start upping more packages to the gitlab, right, parazyd ? |
| 15:26.07 | parazyd | if you have nothing better to do |
| 15:26.19 | freemangordon | parazyd: you mean it could take long? |
| 15:26.50 | Wizzup | parazyd: can we have jaromil apply pressure? :P |
| 15:27.08 | parazyd | freemangordon: as you see, nobody is replying coherently, and Centurion_Dan (who is in charge of all that) is now gone for a few days |
| 15:27.18 | parazyd | asked me to discuss, and i answer, and he just disappears |
| 15:27.43 | freemangordon | maybe switch the discussion to #devuan? |
| 15:27.47 | parazyd | Wizzup: i don't see it happening |
| 15:28.28 | parazyd | freemangordon: in #devuan only more people will see it, but nobody can do a thing |
| 15:28.36 | parazyd | well, except put pressure :) |
| 15:28.51 | freemangordon | sure |
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| 15:29.30 | parazyd | freemangordon: there is #devuan-dev |
| 15:29.48 | parazyd | you should rather drop in there, Wizzup also idles |
| 15:29.55 | freemangordon | parazyd: ah, well, will join there |
| 15:30.22 | parazyd | Pali: you might or might not want to do it as well (join #devuan-dev) |
| 15:30.29 | Wizzup | ps |
| 15:30.36 | Wizzup | I really don't want to get -too- involved in devuan stuff |
| 15:30.39 | Wizzup | need to keep focus :) |
| 15:30.43 | parazyd | exactly |
| 15:32.21 | freemangordon | Wizzup: sure, but I think we should make some noise to at least understand what needs to be done and who is in charge. we can always switch to plan B and put the builder on maemo servers, but lets first try to do it as it should be |
| 15:32.32 | Wizzup | agreed |
| 15:40.39 | bencoh | freemangordon: err didn't have much time lately :/ |
| 15:41.16 | freemangordon | bencoh: sure :), my question is rather - "will you have time soon" |
| 15:42.06 | bencoh | on friday maybe, dunno yet |
| 15:42.13 | freemangordon | ok |
| 15:42.25 | bencoh | sorry about that :/ |
| 15:42.31 | freemangordon | ah, np |
| 15:43.11 | bencoh | I haven't done much computer-related stuff apart from work for the past weeks tbh |
| 15:45.00 | freemangordon | Pali: BTW, are you going to help with that devuan-fremantle thingie? I think this is our best chance to revive maemo. |
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| 15:46.38 | freemangordon | I really think those who still care should make a final effort on that one, with a hope once we have something to be shown more devs will join |
| 15:49.30 | Wikiwide | Yo, sure. Bringing Maemo to newer kernel, reducing the time-gap between mobile and laptop, would make it easier to develop and maintain things. |
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| 16:11.47 | Enrico_Menotti | freemangordon Hello. I'd just wanna ask whether you had a look at the problems I found when trying to build the gtk+ with your patches for Hildon. I didn't try since two or three weeks. Don't want to be insistent, just please let me know if you find something wrong from my side, and if others have been able to build the gtk+. |
| 16:13.16 | freemangordon | Enrico_Menotti: sorry, didn't have time, will see what's going on ASAP, hopefully till the end of the week |
| 16:13.34 | Enrico_Menotti | Ok, thanks a lot. |
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