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| 00:20.06 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~lf ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 08:38.14 | buZz | does anyone have a tip for a maemo gps logger/dashboard thingy? i need to monitor bicycle speed |
| 08:43.43 | buZz | or eh, maybe some gps navigatin with path logging or something? |
| 08:43.44 | buZz | hmm |
| 08:46.52 | buZz | ugliest mount ever https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:10079 |
| 08:47.26 | KotCzarny | but could be quite functional |
| 08:47.43 | KotCzarny | i bet you won't find any better |
| 08:47.45 | buZz | hey KotCzarny ;) |
| 08:48.03 | buZz | i havent thusfar, no :P although i could maybe use one of the universal mounts |
| 08:48.32 | KotCzarny | btw. i have that n900, just didnt manage to swap screens to check/confirm it yet |
| 08:48.43 | buZz | oooo |
| 08:48.47 | buZz | \o/ |
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| 10:42.28 | juiceme | freemangordon, pong |
| 10:43.06 | juiceme | yes I think devlist is OK, have to check it. maemo-community is the list with most traffic |
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| 13:05.39 | buZz | is there something i need to do on CSSU to get gps lock to work? |
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| 13:12.26 | koval | hello |
| 13:12.50 | sicelo | a-gps? or non-assisted? |
| 13:12.51 | sixwheeledbeast | buZz: It's not CSSU issue the supl servers cert had expired IIRC. |
| 13:12.59 | koval | any one have the idea of radsecproxy |
| 13:13.10 | buZz | i mean the 'real' gps without network assistance |
| 13:13.18 | buZz | or would it just take ~verylong ? |
| 13:13.36 | sixwheeledbeast | If you stand outside for 15 minutes you should get a lock without A-GPS |
| 13:13.43 | buZz | alright |
| 13:13.45 | sicelo | buZz: put in a SIM card. without a working SIM it will almost nver work |
| 13:13.48 | buZz | i'll try longer :) |
| 13:13.52 | buZz | sicelo: oh dangit |
| 13:14.12 | buZz | i'll try longer anyway, without sim |
| 13:14.15 | sicelo | don't need to have gprs on .. but the sim must work :-) |
| 13:14.26 | sicelo | you'll wait forever |
| 13:14.33 | buZz | i have a lot of time :P |
| 13:14.34 | sixwheeledbeast | I had no issues with A-GPS disabled it just takes it's time to get the data required for a lock |
| 13:15.03 | sicelo | if you don't have sim it's very bad even if you have wifi |
| 13:15.22 | sicelo | with a sim and no data - about 3 minutes |
| 13:15.31 | sicelo | koval: no idea |
| 13:15.59 | sicelo | ~rrlp |
| 13:15.59 | infobot | RRLP is the Radio Resource LCS (Location Service) Protocol as specified first in GSM TS 04.31, or http://osmocom.org/projects/security/wiki/RRLP |
| 13:16.06 | koval | help for the following |
| 13:16.08 | sicelo | buZz: ^^ |
| 13:16.31 | bencoh | sicelo: iirc "someone" renewed it lately |
| 13:16.45 | koval | ./configure âenable-fticks |
| 13:16.49 | sicelo | yes cert is renewed |
| 13:16.49 | bencoh | woops. sixwheeledbeast ^ |
| 13:16.53 | koval | configure: WARNING: you should use --build, --host, --target |
| 13:17.00 | koval | configure: WARNING: invalid host type: âenable-fticks |
| 13:17.07 | koval | checking build system type... Invalid configuration `âenable-fticks': machine `âenable' not recognized |
| 13:17.15 | koval | configure: error: /bin/sh ./config.sub âenable-fticks failed |
| 13:18.01 | sixwheeledbeast | There is still an issue, even if it has been renewed |
| 13:18.22 | sicelo | what issue? |
| 13:18.33 | buZz | sicelo: i so do not want this :P |
| 13:18.35 | buZz | > It allows the GSM network operator to obtain very precise location information about a mobile phone, |
| 13:18.39 | buZz | fuck them |
| 13:18.41 | buZz | :) |
| 13:19.49 | sixwheeledbeast | I certainly don't get a lock on a few N900's |
| 13:20.21 | sixwheeledbeast | Even after cert was suppose to be renewed |
| 13:22.38 | sicelo | do you have the updated certman packages? |
| 13:23.35 | sixwheeledbeast | buZz: From experience I could open modRana, drive for 4-5 minutes and get a lock without A-GPS consistently. |
| 13:24.09 | sixwheeledbeast | certman? how updated? |
| 13:26.45 | buZz | sixwheeledbeast: without a working sim card in it? |
| 13:27.02 | sicelo | see the tmo thread. unfortunately i can't check the link for you |
| 13:27.48 | sixwheeledbeast | No, but A-GPS was disabled and GSM locked to 2G |
| 13:28.06 | buZz | hmm well |
| 13:28.26 | buZz | i'll see how succesfull i get .. worstcase i could just dig up a BT GPS module i guess |
| 13:28.53 | sixwheeledbeast | I recall this thread http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90651&page=7 |
| 13:30.50 | sixwheeledbeast | My data is on prompt only as no password is saved, hence 2G only. |
| 13:31.04 | sicelo | yes bt gps is prolly your best bet without sim |
| 13:31.30 | buZz | i wonder how the gps would work in native linux on the n900? |
| 13:31.40 | buZz | would it have the same sim-card dependancy? |
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| 13:33.31 | sixwheeledbeast | let me check this |
| 13:33.33 | sicelo | prolly. the problem is how the modem is connected to cpu |
| 13:34.32 | buZz | wg #bathory-dungeon |
| 13:34.35 | buZz | kak |
| 13:38.20 | sicelo | anyway i'm not authority on this :-) |
| 13:38.43 | buZz | its cool, i appreciate your assistance even if not an expert :) |
| 13:45.47 | sixwheeledbeast | Ok so I have just tested with Wifi and SIM disabled and I have a lock in 10 minutes on an overcast day, not bad. |
| 13:54.33 | buZz | with sim removed? or just disabled |
| 13:54.43 | buZz | afaik disabled sims are still powered and active |
| 13:54.49 | buZz | just not exposed to user |
| 13:58.35 | Wizzup | sixwheeledbeast: without moving? |
| 14:00.27 | sixwheeledbeast | on window ledge without moving, disabled with set_radio false in terminal |
| 14:01.32 | sixwheeledbeast | I have now brought it back inside and lost GPS lock with wifi and 2G on, hence why I say A-GPS isn't working here |
| 14:18.55 | buZz | fyi , i got a fix! |
| 14:19.07 | buZz | with no sim , am inside , and no wifi |
| 14:20.08 | Wizzup | It can take a long time for me too, even with sim card in there. |
| 14:20.10 | sicelo | nice :-) |
| 14:20.16 | Wizzup | especially when I am walking. up to an hour |
| 14:20.20 | buZz | took ~15 minutes |
| 14:20.29 | buZz | guess i got lucky :) |
| 14:20.35 | sicelo | How long did it take? |
| 14:20.40 | sicelo | cool |
| 14:20.43 | buZz | now yay, i can record gps logs on my new bicycle \o |
| 14:20.55 | buZz | just need some mount for on steeringwheel |
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| 14:25.43 | Wizzup | buZz: well, I am in hong kong now, so perhaps that made it search for a longer time ... |
| 14:26.21 | buZz | :) next time bring your own gps sats! |
| 14:30.28 | Wizzup | I meant that it might assume a diff pos. but idk. |
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| 14:50.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | buZz: make sure your system time is correct, disable a-gps in settings |
| 14:55.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | buZz: 15 min is about right |
| 14:55.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | downloading almanach takes iirc 12 min |
| 14:58.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | luck is only involved in that as far as you need uninterupted reception for those 12+x minutes or it starts again (though there are 'smarter' schemes that can get a fix in ~40s without downloading almanach, and dropouts in alm-dl could as well get fixed by a second additive download filling in the gaps) |
| 14:59.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | SIM is about ~rrlp, as sicelo(?) already hinted at |
| 14:59.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | and of course about coarse location (country center) and correct time |
| 15:01.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | enabling a-gps while you actually don't have connectivity *may* cause the GPS system getting incorrect assistance data and never ever getting a fix |
| 15:09.44 | dreamer | kind of annoying that gsm assistance is needed for gps. I always thought it just wanted to download the maps |
| 15:11.03 | freemangordon | dreamer: it is not really needed, it just speeds things up |
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| 15:17.51 | freemangordon | bencoh: https://github.com/community-ssu/libplayback |
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| 15:30.08 | dreamer | freemangordon: well, I would've assumed that gps by itself would be fast already. 15 mins to get a lock is quite slow. I wonder how normal gps devices do this then |
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| 15:33.05 | freemangordon | Pali: we have REed libplayback :) |
| 15:33.43 | Pali | nice! |
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| 15:37.04 | fladnag900 | Evening |
| 15:37.33 | fladnag900 | Good evening |
| 15:37.36 | fladnag900 | :) |
| 15:38.00 | bencoh | freemangordon: yay :) |
| 15:39.52 | freemangordon | bencoh: yeah. it would be nice if you find time and will to package it, I had enough of it as of now :) |
| 15:40.34 | freemangordon | Pali: ohmd is FOSS, right? |
| 15:40.43 | fladnag900 | May i ask for help ..i just installed japari for my n900 and the icon to start the app does not show anywhere ... :( :) What can i do ?? My knowledge of linux console things is verylimited |
| 15:40.54 | sicelo | what does libplayback do for us? |
| 15:41.05 | sicelo | fladnag900: yappari is no more |
| 15:41.29 | Pali | freemangordon: yes, there are ohmd sources |
| 15:41.32 | Pali | and some plugins too |
| 15:41.39 | freemangordon | sicelo: one more step to having upstream rebased maemo if your question is "why did you RE it" |
| 15:41.54 | freemangordon | Pali: ok, thanks |
| 15:41.58 | fladnag900 | Wuuaaat ?? |
| 15:42.17 | sicelo | fladnag900: yes, a year ago i think :-) |
| 15:42.27 | fladnag900 | I could install it and restartet as statet ...there is just no icon ... |
| 15:42.51 | freemangordon | fladnag900: ask your service provider why they started to ban everyone not using their official client |
| 15:42.55 | sicelo | if you want whatsapp, buy a supported device. |
| 15:43.51 | fladnag900 | Canyou tellme something .. Imean why and what sense does it make that its inthe repos? |
| 15:43.59 | fladnag900 | Why isit nmore please ? |
| 15:44.28 | sicelo | people kept installing it after being told not to .. so that was one way to force them to stop :-) |
| 15:44.53 | sicelo | s/install/us/ |
| 15:46.58 | sicelo | freemangordon: i meant what is it used for? i guess somewhere in mediaplayer.. |
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| 15:47.47 | freemangordon | sicelo: http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Architecture/Multimedia_Domain#libplayback |
| 15:48.03 | sicelo | thank you |
| 15:48.28 | fladnag900 | Ok :( Thanks evryone .. :) So no fukinwhatsapp forme :) ..im veryhappy with the n900 sofar notinterested inandroid orsomeothersh. :P |
| 15:49.13 | fladnag900 | This irc rocks :) goodnight peaceout |
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| 22:16.30 | jonwil | hi |
| 22:18.25 | jonwil | freemangordon: Great job on libplayback so far |
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