| 00:05.24 | Maxdamantus | doesn't still have* |
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| 00:23.06 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~lf ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 00:49.28 | Wikiwide | I didn't know Maemo 2 existed: http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo2.1/free/source/h/hello-world-app/ |
| 00:54.15 | Wikiwide | Question : what's the difference between maemopad 2.4 in Diablo and maemopad 2.6 in Fremantle? |
| 00:55.56 | Wikiwide | A large difference, according to dependencies. What is libhildonhelp0? |
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| 04:58.49 | Oksana | >> If you want to work with large datasets, don't load the whole thing into memory, use something like BerkeleyDB << https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1242832/in-perl-how-can-i-release-memory-to-the-operating-system |
| 04:59.11 | Oksana | I think that Contacts uses BerkeleyDB (if I remember correctly) |
| 04:59.36 | Oksana | Would it be relevant for el-v1.db? Would it be any better than currect Sqlite3? |
| 04:59.37 | stryngs | Anyone here going to DEFCON this year? |
| 04:59.50 | Oksana | Not me. I can bet it's not in Sydney. |
| 05:00.11 | stryngs | Definitely Not. Las Vegas =) |
| 05:00.13 | stryngs | VIVA LAS VEGAS! |
| 05:12.43 | Maxdamantus | If you're trying to make a faster alternative to grep, the re2 tools released by Russ Cox that are similar to Google codesearch might help. |
| 05:14.01 | Maxdamantus | Not sure how well it does incremental updates though. |
| 05:15.03 | Maxdamantus | You'd basically just treat chunks of a lareg log file as separate documents, and just unconditionally grep over the new stuff at the end that hasn't been indexed yet. |
| 05:42.16 | L29Ah_ | https://vc.gg/blog/so-its-been-a-while.html usa is kill |
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| 06:01.30 | Maxdamantus | https://github.com/google/codesearch |
| 06:01.38 | Maxdamantus | The tools I'm referring to. |
| 06:02.06 | Maxdamantus | (again, written by Russ Cox, who's pretty cool) |
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| 06:48.04 | L29Ah_ | found a dead(?) n900 for $37, the seller says it starts to glow orange when plugged into a charger but won't boot |
| 06:48.25 | KotCzarny | pricey |
| 06:48.30 | L29Ah_ | i wonder if it's the battery or it's more seriously borked hardware-wise |
| 06:48.42 | L29Ah_ | well, the cheapest one i could find in moscow |
| 06:48.51 | L29Ah_ | the working ones are twice as expensive |
| 06:49.52 | L29Ah_ | i could wait for a better offer but now i find myself lacking any projects to work on (and not willing to brick my main phone at the same time) |
| 06:50.44 | L29Ah_ | s/37/27/ |
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| 12:15.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>The VACUUM command may change the ROWIDs of entries in any tables that do not have an explicit INTEGER PRIMARY KEY.<< ! |
| 12:17.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((<Oksana> I think that Contacts uses BerkeleyDB)) yes, that's correct |
| 12:18.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | however you can't switch the RDBMS behind eventslogger, since... it's a blob |
| 12:19.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((it starts to glow orange when plugged into a charger)) sounds pretty much like dead battery |
| 12:19.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~flatbatrecover |
| 12:19.44 | infobot | Remove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered ***NOKIA WALLCHARGER*** to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber shut off -> start over again with ~flatbatrecover while already searching for a new battery. CAVEAT! Only works when ~rootfs OK (no ~bootloop) |
| 12:21.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | for USD 27.- you can't go wrong. Get it |
| 12:25.26 | dmth|intevation | DocScrutinizer I fear L29Ah_ did not get your hint |
| 12:25.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | or they read the chanlog |
| 12:26.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | or somebody tells them when they are back |
| 12:27.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((change the ROWIDs)) this may cause worse than data loss: subtle data corruption |
| 12:29.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | you can't be sure Nokia didn't mess up and use row-id as a reference in their data model |
| 12:31.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | you *could* check the table definitions right from SQLite and make sure *all* tables have row-id as "explicit INTEGER PRIMARY KEY" |
| 12:31.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | I however massively doubt they do |
| 12:34.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | re contacts berkleydb: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/bin/contact |
| 12:34.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's evolution |
| 12:36.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | rather use http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/bin/contact2 which I think is better than mine |
| 12:42.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | re el-v1.db SQL: maybe see http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/eventsdb_calllog_triggers.sh |
| 12:42.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | though unrelated to size, just shows some SQL for that database |
| 12:49.06 | sicelo | hi. i wish to respond to a mailing list message that i was not part of. there is a mailto link on the mail archive page. is there a way i can comment from mutt? |
| 12:52.07 | sicelo | i asked in #mutt, but maybe someone here knows too |
| 12:52.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | you need to register to the ML, I think mails form "outside" are not allowed. I guess they are kept for moderation but nobody does such moderation |
| 12:53.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless you're talking about a ML unrelated to maemo |
| 12:54.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's a question of ML administrative settings if mails form unregistered users are allowed, allowed by manual moderation, or plain discarded |
| 12:55.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah wait, you ask for the "in-reply-to" to keep the answer within the thread?. Usually not really possible |
| 12:55.54 | sicelo | yes, that's what i'm asking |
| 12:56.33 | sicelo | i have message id - i think editing the mail header would do - but i don't know how |
| 12:56.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | keep the subject verbatim, prolly your best chance. Though some more savvy expert might know a trick |
| 12:57.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, editing the "in-reply-to" and "reference(?)-ID" header fields might work |
| 12:58.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | but you don't have those when you didn't receive the email from subscription |
| 12:58.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | the archives don't give them away afaik |
| 12:58.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | you could ask another user to forward the email to you so you could reply |
| 12:59.57 | sicelo | there is (debian ML) |
| 13:00.36 | sicelo | ID, that is (and of course subject) :-) |
| 13:01.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | my approach would be to open a reply email to an arbitrary thread in that ML (of which I actually received the emails), then view the raw text headers and try to edit the whole thing accordingly |
| 13:02.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's more than just ID header, I think it's "in-reply-to" or somesuch |
| 13:02.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | plus I seem to recall there is some "thread-ID" or somesuch |
| 13:03.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | so a canonical ML-thread-reply email has at least 3 relevant header fields |
| 13:03.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | pus subject |
| 13:04.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | no idea which majordomo or whatever that particular ML server uses and which header fields that thing needs |
| 13:04.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | or rather, which fields the user mail clients need ;-) |
| 13:05.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's tricky |
| 13:38.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | (("sqlite vacuum" - el-v1.db is 14% smaller now)) for wikiwide it should reduce size *to* <5% of current size, or it won't suffice |
| 13:41.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | the recommended way to handle stuff is to rename el-v1.db (after getting all the data from it that you know you want to keep for frequent access, by whatever means. Be it screenshots or pencil and paper worst case though the backup app supposed to do some mildly useful dump of the el-v1.db content). Then reboot immediately after renaming, to make the system re-create the db |
| 13:44.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | even better: fuser --kill -KILL path/to/el-v1.db; then reboot |
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| 14:26.50 | L29Ah_ | dmth|intevation: i did :p |
| 14:41.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | good |
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| 14:41.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | for 27 bucks you hardly get a spare digitizer |
| 14:42.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | tzz |
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| 17:22.46 | kivivi | hi |
| 17:22.54 | kivivi | hello? |
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