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| 00:21.26 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~lf ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 04:10.00 | Wikiwide | Fringe theme is an interesting one. Besides being blue, instead of yellow, it has different transitions, and even different size of thumbnails in window-switcher? Will see how it looks after reboot, because currently there may be bits and pieces of previous theme. |
| 04:34.05 | Wikiwide | Also, is it Modest or something else that decides, when replying to an email, split paragraph into short lines, each of them prefixed with '>' ? I don't mind the '>', but I would prefer to have only one such symbol per paragraph. Given differing screen sizes, it makes no sense to split paragraph into short lines. |
| 04:41.39 | Wikiwide | Albeit, I have an unusually long email on my hands, courtesy of Turnitin. |
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| 11:22.39 | Wikiwide | I still don't understand why left-right (aka previous-next) scroll gestures don't work in Photos. I think they worked fine ... before Fringe theme was installed. |
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| 12:08.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((I don't mind the '>', but I would prefer to have only one such symbol per paragraph)) this is a standard that goes like "no line longer 72(?) chars, then a cr/newline. And in a quote ("XY wrote:...") each line starts with one ">" for each level of quote nesting |
| 12:09.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | this "standard" is like 20 or more years old |
| 12:15.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3676.txt page9 "Quoting" - first hit I ran into |
| 12:18.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | >> All lines of a paragraph MUST be unquoted, or else they MUST all be quoted and have the same quote depth << |
| 12:19.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's arguable if nowadays all clients obey the even older line length (72?) maximum |
| 12:25.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | they *SHOULD* (~2119), by using flowed lines ("<SPACE> CR LF") after each 72(?) chars incl quote (">>> ") |
| 12:25.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~2119 |
| 12:25.27 | infobot | The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119. |
| 12:27.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | to answer wikiwide's question: yes it's modest that is responsible to implement RFC3676 |
| 12:28.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | note how modest also is responsible to reformat flowed quoted lines according to screen width |
| 12:30.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's the whole purpose of flowed lines, and one of the major objectives of RFC3676 |
| 12:32.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | in times of HTML emails (what a bullshit idea, they all still end in spam here, unless they are multipart/alternative with plaintext) it seems it's getting less popular to support plaintext properly and taking care about stuff like the above explained |
| 12:39.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | see "3.1. Paragraph Text" in https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2646.txt (dated 1999) for flowed text and paragraphs |
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| 12:50.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | in former days programs (now apps) took pride in supporting RFCs and they listed on sales package all the specific RFCs they obeyed. Now developers don't even know what's a IETF-RFC |
| 13:03.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | on a sidenote: even some wiki markup languages adopted flowed text concept, ending lines with a "<SPACE> cr" instead a plain cr to make a difference |
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| 23:49.23 | Wikiwide | Dust... Does Modest have a limit on Draft-message length somewhere? Number of lines or something? Because I have the unfortunate task of forwarding a very long email, and editing it before clicking 'Send' (removing personal information from text), which means going through all the text (and I remove excessive > breaklines on the way, too, given how they make paragraphs less readable). |