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| 00:21.36 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~lf ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 05:24.01 | Oksana | Okay, ongoing puzzle: Orecchiette records audio in either Wav or AAC. Neither of them supports metadata, as far as I know. How do I convert AAC files to something else (with metadata readable by tracker?) without losing quality? I see tracker-extractor- for flac (lossless), vorbis (lossy) and mod (league of its own). Would it make sense to convert |
| 05:24.01 | Oksana | AAC to Vorbis [would it be possible without losing data]? Or would it be sufficient to encapsulate AAC inside Ogg [or MP4 or something] container? |
| 05:32.17 | Maxdamantus | You can't convert to another lossy codec without losing data. |
| 05:32.21 | Maxdamantus | Practically. |
| 05:33.05 | KotCzarny | cant you just glue id3v1 tag onto aac files? |
| 05:33.17 | KotCzarny | some players allow that |
| 05:33.43 | Maxdamantus | You probably wouldn't encapsulate AAC in Ogg, dunno if that's possible. |
| 05:34.04 | Maxdamantus | But inside MP4 is pretty standard. That's what "m4a" is. |
| 05:34.10 | freemangordon | Maxdamantus: what about converting to flac and the to whatever format? |
| 05:34.32 | KotCzarny | or just hack tracker-extractor to support aac metadata |
| 05:35.08 | Maxdamantus | freemangordon: well, flac is lossless so no indformation lost there, but you lose information when going to a lessy codec. |
| 05:35.30 | freemangordon | ah, you mean on the second conversion |
| 05:35.33 | freemangordon | yeah |
| 05:35.48 | freemangordon | still having my first coffee for the day :) |
| 05:37.11 | Maxdamantus | You should be able to put AAC into an m4a with ffmpeg doing something like: ffmpeg -i foo.aac -acodec copy foo.m4a |
| 05:37.34 | Oksana | Creating tracker-extractor-aac would be nice, except AAC standard doesn't include metadata, right? |
| 05:37.41 | Maxdamantus | ffmpeg tries to copuy metadata in certain cases, dunno how metadata works with AAC though. |
| 05:38.20 | Maxdamantus | oh, no metadata yet, so you can specify it with additional arguments. |
| 05:38.46 | Oksana | Hmm, nice. |
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| 08:13.02 | KotCzarny | http://i.imgur.com/BA3NC.jpg |
| 08:13.24 | KotCzarny | who else thinks it's awesome? |
| 08:29.32 | Maxdamantus | Those earphones look very breakable. |
| 08:31.29 | KotCzarny | im talking more about winamp in a pocket type of thingie |
| 08:39.26 | buZz | KotCzarny: lol nice |
| 08:40.00 | buZz | should be easy-peasy with a 3D printer, some paint and one of those adafruit mp3player boards |
| 08:40.03 | KotCzarny | if our n900 would have such screen, i could use oscp's winamp ui. but sadly there is too much border |
| 08:40.14 | buZz | although the 'eject' button is a bit pointless i guess |
| 08:40.39 | buZz | i dont see why this should be a screen , 90% doesnt update ever |
| 08:40.58 | KotCzarny | for historic reasons :P |
| 08:41.01 | buZz | also touchscreen are blegh for stuff like this |
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| 08:42.04 | KotCzarny | true. with resistive ts you could tapse some translucent tape though to mark buttons |
| 08:42.20 | buZz | gross :D |
| 08:42.31 | buZz | actual buttons ftw |
| 08:42.45 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 12:23.09 | sixwheeledbeast | But gone are the days of standalone media players |
| 12:23.29 | KotCzarny | not entirely true |
| 12:23.53 | sixwheeledbeast | I had a massive Creative one back in the day 60GB IIRC I loved it. |
| 12:24.36 | KotCzarny | i had nokia 5510, with massive 64MB of storage |
| 12:25.07 | KotCzarny | could've squeezed almost 2 hours of music on that baby |
| 12:25.35 | sixwheeledbeast | It got replaced by my N900 and soon after the FW was bricked on an update. |
| 12:28.59 | sixwheeledbeast | https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Felectronics%2Fdetail-page%2Fzenxtra.jpg&f=1 |
| 12:29.39 | KotCzarny | looks like early walkman/ipod |
| 12:29.53 | sixwheeledbeast | Ultra fast 2.0 USB... |
| 12:30.22 | sixwheeledbeast | Circa 2003 IIRC |
| 12:30.49 | KotCzarny | large high resolution lcd ;) |
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| 12:36.01 | Wizzup | 14:23 < sixwheeledbeast> I had a massive Creative one back in the day 60GB IIRC I loved it. |
| 12:36.06 | Wizzup | creative nomad jukebox? |
| 12:36.19 | Wizzup | ah, no, smaller one |
| 12:36.54 | sixwheeledbeast | Great piece of kit in it's time, easy to use and set playlists at parties. Quick swap battery pack and 60GB was a lot before solid state. |
| 12:36.56 | sixwheeledbeast | Yep |
| 12:37.06 | sixwheeledbeast | Jukebox Xtra |
| 12:38.35 | Wizzup | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_NOMAD#/media/File:Nomad.jpg I had this one |
| 12:38.38 | Wizzup | have* actually |
| 12:39.53 | KotCzarny | it had spinning drive? o.o |
| 12:39.56 | sixwheeledbeast | I didn't know they where also sold as a "Dell DJ" It would still be working if it wasn't for the garbage SW bricking the FW update |
| 12:41.05 | sixwheeledbeast | Yep spinning drive in a anti shock tray I recall |
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| 12:49.00 | Wizzup | KotCzarny: yes |
| 12:52.22 | Wikiwide | KotCzarny: If I remember correctly, Samsung already makes clip-on hardware keyboard for Galaxy. Aka, on top of capacitive screen? Make it translucent, and it will be not-gross "tape to mark the buttons" |
| 12:53.00 | KotCzarny | translucent kb is a bit tricky to make |
| 12:53.57 | Wikiwide | Yes, like transparent fish: there remains non-transparent skeleton. |
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