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| 00:25.11 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~lf ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 03:49.26 | L29Ah | can i see a history of ussd requests? |
| 03:49.42 | L29Ah | they don't show up in the call history :( |
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| 06:33.28 | sicelo | L29Ah: i don't believe you can (on any mobile for that matter) |
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| 06:37.44 | L29Ah | i believe you can on sailfish |
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| 08:00.39 | Enrico_Menotti | Hello. I'd like to try Hildon on Devuan (N900). I know it is not quite ready for that. I also know others are working on that. Now, I found https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-desktop. Is this the right place to start from? Should it work on Debian already? Are there any instructions to build it? |
| 08:01.27 | ravelo | Enrico_Menotti, yay |
| 08:02.38 | Enrico_Menotti | ravelo What do you mean? |
| 08:03.53 | ravelo | Enrico_Menotti, sorry, just wanted to encourage you ... |
| 08:03.55 | ravelo | :) |
| 08:04.02 | Enrico_Menotti | :) |
| 08:04.13 | ravelo | otherwise I cannot help yet ;) |
| 08:04.25 | Enrico_Menotti | ravelo Did you see my document on Devuan installation? |
| 08:04.39 | Enrico_Menotti | https://oasis.sandstorm.io/grain/nnsxfmhxk2NAGYYcfCovrF/ |
| 08:04.54 | ravelo | sry, did not have time for it yet |
| 08:04.59 | Enrico_Menotti | (Or rather Devuan test.) |
| 08:05.11 | Enrico_Menotti | No worries, thanks. |
| 08:05.20 | ravelo | thanks for reminding |
| 08:05.55 | Enrico_Menotti | Well, I'll wait some time until I get a few feedbacks, if possible, then publish on the wiki. That's my plan. |
| 08:06.12 | ravelo | great |
| 08:06.32 | ravelo | bbl |
| 08:06.39 | Enrico_Menotti | Ok. |
| 08:07.02 | sicelo | i looked at it very briefly yesterday. it's good :) |
| 08:07.27 | sicelo | i'd say wiki it right away ... any issues can still be ironed out on wiki |
| 08:08.28 | Enrico_Menotti | sicelo Thanks. I'll do that in a few days. What's the best way? Upload it somewhere as a separate document, or copy and paste on a wiki page? |
| 08:09.37 | sicelo | copy paste should be good. of course you might need to play a bit with wiki syntax for the code parts |
| 08:10.09 | Enrico_Menotti | Ok, I'll follow that way. Thanks. |
| 08:26.41 | Enrico_Menotti | freemangordon Ping. |
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| 12:13.55 | Enrico_Menotti | I received two positive feedbacks on my document, and I have some free time now. So I'm thinking about creating a wiki page with that. Is it ok if I go for talk.maemo.org -> OS/platform -> Alternatives (i.e. http://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=36), and create a new thread? Is it maybe worth creating a sub-forum for Devuan? |
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| 12:52.40 | sicelo | Enrico_Menotti: http://wiki.maemo.org . . . that's too long for tmo |
| 12:53.02 | sicelo | if you want a tmo thread, you can link to your wiki entry |
| 12:54.52 | sicelo | i don't believe you can create a sub-forum on tmo ... although you could ask admins to create it foryou |
| 12:55.04 | parazyd | wiki is prefered |
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| 14:26.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | wiki! |
| 14:27.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | talk.maemo.org -> OS/platform -> Alternatives is ok for tmo threads about devuan, but not the right place for documentation |
| 14:29.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_on_Debian |
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| 14:50.01 | Enrico_Menotti | DocScrutinizer05 Should I post on that wiki page? "Maemo_on_Debian"? Wouldn't be better a "Devuan_on_N900"? |
| 14:50.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, the latter |
| 14:51.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | maemo_on_devuan |
| 14:51.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | wait, that's not maemo, so yours is more to the point |
| 14:52.11 | Enrico_Menotti | So is it possible for me to create such a page? (Sorry for asking - it's the first time I do such things.) |
| 14:52.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | but what I linked is the right 'namespace' |
| 14:53.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Devuan_on_N900 |
| 14:53.39 | Enrico_Menotti | Did you create it right now? |
| 14:53.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Devuan_on_N900&action=edit only when logged in |
| 14:54.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | hope it works for you. If not let me know |
| 14:54.26 | Enrico_Menotti | I will try immediately. |
| 14:54.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | and? |
| 14:54.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, login takes some time |
| 14:55.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway should work, the page isn't protected from what I can tell |
| 14:56.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2017/05/06/plasma-desktopm22054.png |
| 14:58.11 | Enrico_Menotti | Ok, I'm in the edit form. I'm trying to understand whether I may upload my doc or better copy and paste. |
| 14:58.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | c&p |
| 14:58.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | no way to upload files and make them visible in a reasonable manner |
| 14:58.55 | Enrico_Menotti | Ok. |
| 14:59.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | you can embed files but that's strongly discouraged for plain text info meant to be editable by others |
| 15:01.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | re "sub forum" the fptf sub might fit as well |
| 15:03.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=58 |
| 15:04.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | but not really, I think http://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=36 fits fine. Once admins decide to make a Devuan subforum under http://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=36, they will move threads accordingly |
| 15:05.09 | Enrico_Menotti | Ok, I will first create the wiki. Then we'll see, ok? |
| 15:07.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | I created a thread for you ;-) |
| 15:07.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1527744#post1527744 |
| 15:08.32 | Enrico_Menotti | Thank you! |
| 15:09.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | yw, thanks for doing the howto |
| 15:11.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | a hint: save frequently when editing wiki pages. You'll frown when 'save' fails and nukes all your edits done since last save |
| 15:12.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | sometimes browser back-button can recover the edits in such case, but not always |
| 15:13.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | Enrico_Menotti: ^^^ |
| 15:14.01 | Enrico_Menotti | Ok. |
| 15:21.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | non-obvious trick: to make evvective linebreaks, add a few space to end of line, before CR |
| 15:22.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | effective* |
| 15:22.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc |
| 15:22.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | hopes that wasn't another wiki markup language |
| 15:24.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | damn, no, doesn't work on wmo |
| 15:26.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Help:Editing and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Formatting |
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| 15:29.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | MediaWiki ignores single line breaks. To start a new paragraph, leave an empty line. You can force a line break within a paragraph with the HTML tag <br />. |
| 16:06.24 | Enrico_Menotti | DocScrutinizer05 Did it. Thank you! |
| 16:06.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | yw |
| 16:06.40 | Enrico_Menotti | parazyd sicelo ^^^ |
| 16:06.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | great page! |
| 16:06.59 | Enrico_Menotti | (And anyone else.) |
| 16:07.04 | Enrico_Menotti | Thank you! |
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