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11:37.29Enrico_MenottiI have Devuan running on my n900 fine. Boot fast. No udev. Power button working. Screen going to sleep. Keyboard set up. Wifi. Ssh.
11:37.53Enrico_MenottiI'd need some help with the following steps:
11:38.14Enrico_Menotti1. How to check whether the battery is charging? If not, what is needed to do that?
11:38.43Enrico_Menotti2. How to have the right switch working to wake up the screen? (I have scpi-support-base installed.)
11:38.59Enrico_Menotti3. What is the present state of the art about desktop environments?
11:46.21MaxdamantusMy plan is to just modify dwm or i3 or something.
11:46.40Maxdamantus(for the desktop environment)
11:46.54Maxdamantuswell, for a window manager at least, which should be sufficient.
11:48.39bencohEnrico_Menotti: 1. see the bq27xx driver (probably located under /sys/class/power_supply), or the bq27*.sh script
11:50.54bencohoh err, which kernel are you using btw?
11:51.06bencoh(and why no udev?)
12:03.39Enrico_Menottibencoh As discussed with parazyd , udev is not needed for hotplug. And it was creating problems at boot - a 30 seconds delay, with net.agent timing out due to the loopback lo no being mounted, which in turn is a consequence of the missing initrd (I boot directly to rootfs). Hope I don't miss here any step - many details, I don't remember exactly everything.
12:04.16Enrico_MenottiI'm using mainline kernel with Pali's rx51_defconfig, modified to include the two watchdogs in the kernel and not as modules.
12:05.30Enrico_MenottiMaxdamantus You talk about a "plan". I'd deduce there is no DE running yet. Am I right?
12:05.54MaxdamantusI don't know. It's just a personal plan.
12:07.59MaxdamantusJust because I'm not really interested in most of the things hildon seems to do, and I suspect I can just modify an existing tiling WM to do the things I would actually be interested in.
12:09.22Maxdamantus(and the ones I mentioned would probably use a lot less memory than hildon)
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12:12.58Enrico_MenottiMaxdamantus Ok. Thanks.
12:27.24WizzupEnrico_Menotti: the kernel should manage the charging stuff by itself, but you can read the currnet state from /sys
12:27.41Wizzup/sys/devices/platform/68000000.ocp/48072000.i2c/i2c-2/2-0055/power_supply/bq27200-0/
12:28.22Wizzupas for making specific keys wake up the screen/phone, do you suspend/hibernate-ram he phone, or just want X turned off?
12:28.39WizzupI am pretty sure the switch on the side is just an input device, so it should not be too hard to make it wake up
12:28.54WizzupI don't have my gentoo & devuan n900s next to me right now, but it should not be too hard to make that happen
12:29.05WizzupAs for 3, hildon? :)
12:31.05Maxdamantusin the normal maemo system it's a gpio called "slide"
12:31.14Maxdamantusdunno how the names are assigned.
12:32.34WizzupI just usuall do tail -f /dev/input/event* and see which one activates
12:32.52Enrico_MenottiWizzup Thanks. I'm trying to read the battery state with the help of a couple of scripts suggested by DocScrutinizer05 . (If I'm able to get them work; they have a few dependences).
12:33.00Wizzupalso, for led fun -
12:33.01Wizzupfor i in $(ls /sys/devices/platform/68000000.ocp/48072000.i2c/i2c-2/2-0032/leds/lp5523:*/trigger /sys/devices/platform/68000000.ocp/48072000.i2c/i2c-2/2-0032/leds/lp5523:kb*/trigger) ; do echo timer > $i; done
12:33.14MaxdamantusIt's not handled by /dev/input/*
12:33.20Maxdamantusit's just gpio.
12:33.20WizzupEnrico_Menotti: with the current setup, even normal battery monitors will pick it up
12:33.24WizzupMaxdamantus: mainline
12:33.50WizzupEnrico_Menotti: turned off wiht for i in $(ls /sys/devices/platform/68000000.ocp/48072000.i2c/i2c-2/2-0032/leds/lp5523:*/trigger /sys/devices/platform/68000000.ocp/48072000.i2c/i2c-2/2-0032/leds/lp5523:kb*/trigger) ; do echo none > $i; done
12:33.56MaxdamantusEh, so mainline has an input driver for the GPIO switches?
12:34.02WizzupEnrico_Menotti: e.g. 'batti' will work
12:34.12WizzupMaxdamantus: I would not be surprised, is this not the point of dts and such
12:34.20MaxdamantusI don't think so.
12:34.24Wizzupotherwise, if it is just gpio, it's also easy to open+select() the right gpio
12:34.38Wizzupwell, I am not in a position to check atm.
12:34.38MaxdamantusRight, I think that's the standard way to interact with GPIO.
12:35.10Wizzupmany keyboards are also gpio, but they have drivers and are exposed not via gpio in sys
12:35.21MaxdamantusI have a funny program I wrote that polls the status of the shutter GPIO.
12:35.22Wizzupsame for simple buttons on many arm dev boards
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12:35.48Wizzupthe input layer is a perfect place for these things
12:36.00Wizzupe.g. closing/opening a laptop will typically also trigger something in /dev/input/
12:36.29MaxdamantusThat seems weird to me.
12:36.48Maxdamantusmight try it sometime with his laptop.
12:37.11Maxdamantusmaybe there'd be something on the trackpad device to indicate that it's active/inactive, dunno.
12:37.12Wizzupyou can run evdev on all of htem
12:37.16Wizzupit will print all the keys they expose
12:37.24Wizzupevtest*
12:37.59WizzupInput device name: "Lid Switch"
12:38.13WizzupEvent: time 1493642283.711271, type 5 (EV_SW), code 0 (SW_LID), value 1
12:38.13WizzupEvent: time 1493642283.711271, -------------- SYN_REPORT ------------
12:38.13WizzupEvent: time 1493642286.611207, type 5 (EV_SW), code 0 (SW_LID), value 0
12:38.13WizzupEvent: time 1493642286.611207, -------------- SYN_REPORT ------------
12:38.51Wizzupsimilarly, for mincrophone inserts:     Event code 4 (SW_MICROPHONE_INSERT) state 0
12:42.03DocScrutinizer05would depend on DT I guess
12:42.56DocScrutinizer05yes, all sensors should show up as /dev/*, in maemo however they usually are only in /sys
12:43.26Maxdamantusanyway, https://gist.github.com/Maxdamantus/23783a33d9ec43e8be42632566e8d1f9
12:43.30MaxdamantusWho needs malloc?
12:45.05DocScrutinizer05any unlike Vol+/- the cam trigger, lockswitch, slider, proxy and camdoor are not input devices
12:45.35DocScrutinizer05no idea how that got inplemented in devuan aka mainline kernel
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14:43.58Enrico_MenottiAbout the slide key, there is a module called gpio_keys. I modprobed it. Now the slide key is alive, but it only produces a ^@ symbol on the screen.
14:47.52bencohwhich might be okay actually
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14:51.43Enrico_MenottiOk, so now how to handle that?
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14:52.50bencohgpiokeys are supposed to output events to /dev/input/event*
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14:53.37bencoha glance at /sys/class/input might tell you which one
14:54.10DocScrutinizer05but X11 isn't supposed to read input form that device, I guess
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14:54.22bencoh/dev/input/event* follow a simple read api
14:54.31bencoh(read() syscall I mean)
14:54.36bencohDocScrutinizer05: sure it does
14:54.41bencohit isa
14:54.49bencohis* damnit
14:55.23DocScrutinizer05err, well
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14:56.09bencohdunno how the switch button was implemented .... I suppose it's a simple press/release key
14:56.33bencoh(gpiokeys are basically that anyway ... press and release events with associated keycode)
14:56.47DocScrutinizer05sure
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14:57.05bencohon maemo mce is responsible for it iirc
14:57.07DocScrutinizer05anyway maemo doesn't show an event for lockswitch
14:57.14DocScrutinizer05yes
14:57.20DocScrutinizer05that's what I said
14:58.19DocScrutinizer05and mce opens a file handle to whatever-that-gpioswitch directly instead of listening to X11 events
14:58.50Enrico_MenottiThe power button works just fine without modules, just installed acpi-support-base (Devuan).
14:59.20DocScrutinizer05mce         824       root   10r   REG        0,0     4096       4101 /sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/kb_lock/state
15:00.10DocScrutinizer05http://paste.ubuntu.com/24493079
15:01.42DocScrutinizer05it's questionable if you want a ^@ input event in X11 for lockswitch
15:02.43DocScrutinizer05I guess it *could* get implemented that way, but feels somewhat... wrong
15:04.06DocScrutinizer05at very least it should provide the correct keysym
15:06.47DocScrutinizer05though don't ask me what's the name
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15:08.34DocScrutinizer05can't find something reasonable in http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/XF86_keyboard_symbols
15:09.08DocScrutinizer05maybe XF86ScreenSaver
15:13.25DocScrutinizer05anyway that's keysym, not scancode. First of all you'd need to make sure the lockswitch generates a unique scancode
15:16.29DocScrutinizer05Enrico_Menotti: please run xev and pastebin the lockswitch event
15:17.19Enrico_Menottixev: command not found. Let me investigate.
15:19.16Enrico_MenottiIt's package x11-utils. A moment.
15:22.21DocScrutinizer05freaking... WTF?! xev doesn't report events from N900 hw kbd (except for vol+/- aka F6/7(?)) when started via ssh
15:23.58DocScrutinizer05whatever, busy. AFK, bbl
15:24.11Enrico_Menottixev:  unable to open display ''
15:24.24Enrico_Menotti?
15:24.50DocScrutinizer05no X11 environment and/or no $DISPLAY defined
15:25.34Enrico_MenottiYes, no X11 environment. So how to use that?
15:25.39DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# echo $DISPLAY
15:25.41DocScrutinizer05:0.0
15:26.05Enrico_MenottiOk, I'll try to define it.
15:26.19DocScrutinizer05doesn't help if it doesn't exist
15:26.45Enrico_MenottiIn fact.
15:27.37Enrico_Menottibbl (maybe)
15:28.25DocScrutinizer05http://paste.ubuntu.com/24493190
15:29.58Enrico_MenottiI just have event0 - 3.
15:30.52DocScrutinizer05http://paste.ubuntu.com/24493197
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16:09.06halftuxsicelo: I guess I found the solution for irssi which you were looking for. https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1527540&postcount=10
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17:25.48vahehi all :) I'm looking for bitcoin wallet for n900
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17:55.55DocScrutinizer05https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=66756
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18:56.30sicelomerlin1991: halfux's solution worked, yay! https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/extras-cauldron-builds/2017-May/156638.html
18:57.27siceloVajb: looks like perl irssi is coming to repos soon :)
19:00.56buZzthey ported irssi to 100% perl?
19:01.51parazydlol
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21:08.49bencohDocScrutinizer05: ^@ is probably just some undisplayable character
21:12.26DocScrutinizer05sounds like 0x00
21:17.02DocScrutinizer05compare less `which date`
21:30.07DocScrutinizer05as such it's indeed "undisplayable" and gets represented in ^notation
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21:31.41DocScrutinizer05:o>
21:32.26DocScrutinizer05shouldn't try to type a ctrl+q to get a ctrl+@ ;-P
21:33.46bencoh:D
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