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| 00:19.56 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~lf ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 08:47.06 | Vajb | sicelo: back with new version. Got some error in startup, but seems to work. |
| 08:47.42 | Vajb | sicelo: "can't locate Irssi.pm" no idea if that's relevant or not. |
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| 10:31.09 | sicelo | Vajb: interesting. how to reproduce the problem? |
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| 10:32.47 | Sicelo009N | connecting successfully here |
| 10:33.28 | Sicelo009N | you're loading a perl script? which one? |
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| 10:44.07 | Vajb | yes by reading it more carefully it is caused by one of the scripts |
| 10:46.08 | Sicelo009N | ok |
| 10:46.18 | Sicelo009N | let me know what you find :-) |
| 10:46.38 | Sicelo009N | or just buld it yourself ... the source is on github |
| 10:46.38 | Vajb | btw did backup, but wasn't needed. All of my settings were intact. |
| 10:46.52 | Sicelo009N | awesome! |
| 10:49.02 | Vajb | i stick with ur builds, thx :) |
| 10:50.20 | Sicelo009N | hehe |
| 10:50.41 | sicelo | i just hope we can get it in repos, then that would be awesome |
| 10:52.21 | Vajb | yes it would be more usefll |
| 10:52.35 | Vajb | tho it is easy to install for anyone |
| 10:52.41 | Vajb | already i mean |
| 11:10.33 | dreamer | hmm, the n900 media player doesn't do flac it seems. of course I find out after putting 2G of music on it -_- |
| 11:11.35 | KotCzarny | i think there is a plugin for that |
| 11:11.53 | KotCzarny | at least afair oksana was playing flacs with omp and some plugin |
| 11:12.03 | KotCzarny | you can also use some alternative player too ;) |
| 11:12.54 | dreamer | I like the default mediaplayer in general. the ui is great |
| 11:13.05 | dreamer | have to look for that plugin then .. |
| 11:13.13 | KotCzarny | try omp |
| 11:13.28 | KotCzarny | it's drop in replacement for stock player, with similar ui |
| 11:14.29 | Maxdamantus | mpd also does flac |
| 11:14.31 | dreamer | ok, thnx |
| 11:14.38 | Maxdamantus | uses flac with mpd on N900 |
| 11:14.50 | dreamer | there is mpd in n900? |
| 11:14.59 | dreamer | with ncmpcpp? ;) |
| 11:15.10 | Wizzup | my gentoon900 has it |
| 11:15.13 | Maxdamantus | Dunno. I just run it in a Debian chroot. |
| 11:15.38 | KotCzarny | i just use my own player, works like i want it to work |
| 11:15.44 | Maxdamantus | Debian has ncmpc, but it seems to often misbehave with osso-xterm |
| 11:15.46 | dreamer | oh, yeah I want neither gentoo nor chroot :p |
| 11:15.51 | Maxdamantus | haven't tried ncmpcpp |
| 11:16.03 | Maxdamantus | really needs to switch away from osso-xterm |
| 11:16.09 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 11:16.25 | Maxdamantus | wants to be able to use vim without the terminal crashing every 30 seconds |
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| 11:18.17 | dreamer | ah, there's the extra decoder package |
| 11:18.42 | Wizzup | Maxdamantus: how does it crash? |
| 11:18.49 | dreamer | I'll try that first |
| 11:19.05 | bencoh | Maxdamantus: yup, you definitely should |
| 11:19.30 | bencoh | Maxdamantus: (plain old) xterm is great on n900 btw, assuming you properly configured rx-51 to remap useful keys |
| 11:19.33 | Sicelo009N | Vajb: repos would also help with trust |
| 11:20.03 | bencoh | as for mpd we should try and add it to extras, someday |
| 11:20.56 | sicelo | Maxdamantus: i'm also interested to know how vim crashes osso-xterm. i use it without issue here |
| 11:23.37 | dreamer | hmm, how do you reconfigure a package? I think I missed some license agreement |
| 11:23.55 | dreamer | presed the tochscreen too fast and didn't check a box |
| 11:24.01 | inz | dpkg-reconfigure <package> |
| 11:24.19 | dreamer | there is no dpkg-reconfigure, that's the thing .. |
| 11:25.19 | bencoh | dpkg --configure maybe |
| 11:28.11 | dreamer | hmmm, well it seems to work anyway hehe |
| 11:28.19 | dreamer | sees all the flacs |
| 11:38.56 | Maxdamantus | sicelo: I'm not sure exactly, but I suspect it has something to do with input buffering. |
| 11:39.47 | Maxdamantus | iirc I straced it once and it didn't seem to get anything like a segfault .. I think it just exited. |
| 11:40.10 | Maxdamantus | but it's not strictly limited to vim .. it seems to just get triggered a lot more often when using vim than when using anything else. |
| 11:40.48 | Maxdamantus | and it happens especially in vim whether I'm using the vim from maemo, from the Debian chroot, or through tmux through ssh. |
| 11:41.14 | Maxdamantus | maybe I should try one of those terminal recording things and see if it can reproduce it on replay. I suspect it won't though. |
| 11:43.28 | KotCzarny | maybe you are pressing some key combination |
| 11:44.19 | Maxdamantus | I'm pretty sure it's not something like that. |
| 11:44.52 | Maxdamantus | the most common case other than in vim is when pressing alt-a in irssi in tmux |
| 11:45.06 | KotCzarny | what does it do? |
| 11:45.08 | Maxdamantus | well, blue-enter, a |
| 11:45.38 | Maxdamantus | Switches to the most recently viewed window that has new activity. |
| 11:46.01 | Maxdamantus | er, irssi in tmux in ssh |
| 11:47.22 | Maxdamantus | and just now when I tried it it happened just after writing `dd` in vim (to delete a line) |
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| 12:07.23 | Maxdamantus | Hm, esc-dd seems to actually do it somewhat reliably. |
| 12:07.35 | Maxdamantus | maybe once every three tries if I do it quickly. |
| 12:07.41 | Maxdamantus | not necessarily in vim |
| 12:08.55 | Maxdamantus | but it has to be esc using the key I've mapped (blue-enter), not the one in the button tray. |
| 12:09.17 | Maxdamantus | can do it with other combinations including esc too. |
| 12:09.33 | Maxdamantus | maybe it's all got something to do with esc |
| 12:09.59 | Maxdamantus | Ahah. It happens in other programs as well. |
| 12:10.10 | Maxdamantus | So I guess it's the window manager closing it, not the terminal crashing. |
| 12:11.29 | Maxdamantus | Hmm .. but I still can't get it to close rxvt-unicode when doing it. |
| 12:12.40 | Maxdamantus | also doesn't do it for qmpc .. so far just Opera and osso-xterm |
| 12:14.43 | Maxdamantus | and those are pretty much the only windowed programs I use .. Opera, qmpc, osso-xterm, rxvt-unicode (rarely) |
| 12:15.51 | Maxdamantus | will try remapping esc to another key without a modifier |
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| 12:31.55 | bencoh | I remapped esc to a blue+something key as well and never noticed that with (plain) xterm |
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| 12:41.01 | Maxdamantus | Hmm |
| 12:44.18 | Maxdamantus | https://gist.github.com/Maxdamantus/8460d89983c29533355c2d243abb7b4c |
| 12:44.53 | bencoh | .gz.base64 <3 |
| 12:45.11 | Maxdamantus | kpinp is a capture of /dev/input/keypad when it exited (near the end) |
| 12:46.24 | Maxdamantus | 100 = blue, 28 = enter, 23 = c, 34 = i, 49 = b |
| 12:47.12 | Maxdamantus | eh, might've just found an easier way to trigger it |
| 12:47.53 | Maxdamantus | okay, I can trigger it by just pressing blue and enter randomly |
| 12:48.13 | Maxdamantus | that way I'm pretty sure I'm not entering unknown keys accidentally. |
| 12:48.46 | Maxdamantus | note though that I'm not running hildon-input-manager, so blue isn't sticky for me |
| 12:50.34 | Maxdamantus | okay, I don't even need to do it randomly |
| 12:50.46 | Maxdamantus | just running `cat` then holding blue and enter does it |
| 12:51.02 | Maxdamantus | does that happen for you too? |
| 12:51.17 | bencoh | blue is here "sticky" because I defined it so in rx-51 |
| 12:51.58 | Maxdamantus | Mm, I think the stickiness shouldn't affect it with the current trigger. |
| 12:52.25 | Maxdamantus | since blue is always held down anyway, it should always go through the modifier. |
| 12:52.44 | bencoh | running running cat in osso-xterm and my blue+""esc"" key doesn't trigger any bug |
| 12:53.08 | Maxdamantus | also, it does it with my other key that I mapped to Escape too |
| 12:53.37 | Maxdamantus | so I can just hold down a single normal key (the physical 't' key in this case), that I've mapped to Escape in rx-51 |
| 12:54.26 | Maxdamantus | so for you it just keeps writing "^[" indefinitely? |
| 12:54.44 | bencoh | yup |
| 12:55.10 | bencoh | I do have hildon-input-manager in osso* applications though |
| 12:55.32 | Maxdamantus | it also exits on another one of my devices which is still using hildon-input-manager as usual. |
| 12:55.45 | bencoh | ah |
| 12:56.22 | Maxdamantus | though it is a copy of an old backup of my usual device, so there might be something else relevant. |
| 12:58.14 | Maxdamantus | I get the same behaviour in Opera. |
| 12:58.23 | Maxdamantus | but not qmpc or urxvt |
| 12:58.41 | Maxdamantus | so holding down escape also exits opera |
| 13:02.20 | Maxdamantus | anyway, need to sleep now. I think I have a a decent amount of information to investigate further. |
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