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| 11:21.28 | NeKit | is virtual keyboard open-source? |
| 11:22.26 | bencoh | I think it is, or at least some of it |
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| 14:09.49 | vahe | hi all, i need http://revelation.olasagasti.info/ revelation for maemo :) |
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| 19:14.04 | Sicelo | KotCzarny: any idea what the largest SD card the X40 can take? |
| 19:16.00 | KotCzarny | i would bet xc ones |
| 19:22.21 | Sicelo | it's nice way to have extra storage |
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| 19:26.28 | Maxdamantus | If you're using an OS based on something like Linux, you should be able to handle any size SD card. |
| 19:26.46 | Maxdamantus | unless people have added arbitrary limitatiuons. |
| 19:26.51 | KotCzarny | those uhs-2 and higher might be tricky |
| 19:27.03 | Maxdamantus | They really shouldn't be. |
| 19:27.29 | Maxdamantus | If they have a FAT filesystem, devices should be able to interact with them in exactly the same way. |
| 19:29.16 | Maxdamantus | I suspect the main reason devices would be marked as incompatible will be that SDXC/SDXC cards are supposed to come with ex-FAT or whatever it's called. |
| 19:29.33 | Maxdamantus | but you can of course write something else on there. |
| 20:16.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | huh? |
| 20:17.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | oh X40 is a device? |
| 20:18.17 | Sicelo | old IBM laptop |
| 20:18.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | tbh I didn't witness a "too large" in SD cards yet, seems even the oldest standards are still supported by newest cards, and somehow they manage to address full storage capacity too |
| 20:20.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | I however seen a special rootfs image not booting when dd'ed to a uSD >512(?) MB size |
| 20:21.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/ |
| 20:23.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | particularly http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/moko11/flash-moko11_uSD-image.tar.gz |
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| 20:32.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((even the oldest standards are still supported by newest cards)) in expression UHS-2 cards still should support all older protocols too |
| 20:33.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | when a N900 can take a 256GB UHS uSD, I can't figure how a X40 wouldn't ;-) |
| 20:35.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | technically I guess UHS and SDXC are orthogonal, and SDXC is backward compatible to SDHC |
| 20:37.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SDXC |
| 20:39.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | thiugh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#Compatibility suggests otherwise |
| 20:46.36 | Sicelo | i did think of the N900 .. well - the actual root of the question is - a friend has bought an HP DL380 G7 server for some storage needs at his home .. now he wishes to book off the SD slot, and wishes to buy a 128GB card for that purpose, but wasn't sure if it would work or not |
| 20:49.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>However, older host devices do not recognize SDHC or SDXC memory cards, although some devices can do so through a firmware upgrade<< |
| 20:50.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | "firmware" here mosz certainly refers to the OS drivers, which are latest on any OS >=win7, and linux, obviously |
| 20:50.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | most* |
| 20:52.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | electrically SDHC can handle SDXC afaik, your drivers just need to know about the meanings of the bits in card registers |
| 20:53.14 | enyc | DocScrutinizer05: hrrm but 2.6.28 kernel ... limitations? |
| 20:54.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think Nokia did some updates on the SD drivers |
| 20:55.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's not like maemo stock kernel was a genuine 2.6.28 kernel |
| 21:08.58 | Maxdamantus | It works because SD cards don't use something like a bus to communicate. They just speak some networking protocol involving packets. |
| 21:09.59 | Maxdamantus | The controller hardware doesn't care what addresses you're sending to the card. It's pretty much up to software (eg, your Linux kernel) and the controller on the card. |
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| 21:10.35 | Maxdamantus | and Linux wouldn't put weird limits into their SD drivers. |
| 21:11.26 | Maxdamantus | some software might though; my old music player (Sansa Clip Zip) has some 4GB or 8GB limit. |
| 21:12.13 | Maxdamantus | but if you run Rockbox on it (which was my intention from the start), you don't have that limitation since their sofware just uses 64-bit addresses everywhere. |
| 21:12.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | The EFF is campaigning to save online privacy in the USA, read more: https://act.eff.org/action/don-t-let-congress-undermine-our-online-privacy |
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| 21:16.02 | Sicelo | nice explanation Maxdamantus. thanks |
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