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| 00:20.38 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~lf ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 10:12.18 | peetah | ~scratchbox |
| 10:12.18 | infobot | scratchbox is probably a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB |
| 10:12.29 | peetah | ~scratchbox2 |
| 10:14.17 | peetah | is scratchbox still the recommended environment to develop for Maemo ? what about scratchbox2 |
| 10:14.21 | peetah | ? |
| 10:14.30 | KotCzarny | depends what you are going to do |
| 10:15.10 | KotCzarny | for qt apps there was madde |
| 10:15.30 | KotCzarny | for simple 'compile package' one could get away with chroot (especially true on arm systems) |
| 10:15.50 | KotCzarny | ~sb2 |
| 10:15.55 | KotCzarny | ~madde |
| 10:15.56 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, madde is http://wiki.maemo.org/MADDE http://sourceforge.net/projects/madde/ https://gitorious.org/meego-developer-tools/maddeâ |
| 10:17.15 | peetah | basically compiling stuff |
| 10:17.33 | KotCzarny | big or small? |
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| 10:17.53 | peetah | I would like to try having tor up to date |
| 10:18.29 | peetah | maybe adding signal protocol for SMS as well as OMEMO for Conversations |
| 10:18.45 | KotCzarny | you might check sb vm image |
| 10:18.49 | KotCzarny | ~tabletsdev |
| 10:18.49 | infobot | from memory, tabletsdev is http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev , http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads, or http://maemo.muarf.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/ |
| 10:18.51 | peetah | "try" is the key word here :) |
| 10:18.53 | KotCzarny | see last link |
| 10:19.03 | peetah | ok thanks |
| 10:19.06 | KotCzarny | there are images (~1gig) |
| 10:19.28 | KotCzarny | and there are bootable cd created from it available in some tmo thread |
| 10:19.59 | KotCzarny | do you own any arm machine? |
| 10:20.40 | peetah | yes but my sheevaplug is not powerful enough for development |
| 10:20.45 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 10:21.05 | KotCzarny | if you are really adventurous you could try using my arm chroot directly on n900 |
| 10:21.16 | KotCzarny | (or via ssh) |
| 10:21.36 | KotCzarny | its small ~400MB unpacked |
| 10:21.50 | KotCzarny | and being chroot it's self contained |
| 10:21.55 | peetah | why not cross compiling ? |
| 10:22.11 | KotCzarny | i have a 4xcortex-A7 machine |
| 10:22.26 | KotCzarny | it's running 24/7 and drawing ~2Watts of power |
| 10:22.35 | peetah | nice |
| 10:22.44 | KotCzarny | so it's that and laziness |
| 10:23.17 | KotCzarny | as i would've had to get my x86 box either booting via network or running all the time and eating lots of power |
| 10:23.51 | KotCzarny | so for a sinmpl 'i want to compile package xyz' it's definitely easier to manage |
| 10:23.56 | KotCzarny | *simple |
| 10:24.30 | KotCzarny | i haven't tried to run it on n900 though, so dont know if it works there without fixing something |
| 10:26.59 | peetah | I had a scratchbox environment back in the day of my functional n900, but I deleted it when it failed to make phone calls. I got a new one recently so I would like to build a dev env up to date |
| 10:55.39 | KotCzarny | you can still make network-controllable audio player from that broken n900 |
| 10:56.03 | KotCzarny | and use your laptop or other n900 to control it |
| 10:56.15 | KotCzarny | if you are interested, check out my player |
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