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| 02:19.45 | Maxdamantus | "not bricked anymore" sounds like it wasn't bricked in the first place. |
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| 08:41.48 | freemangordon | anybody can help me with a regular expression? |
| 08:41.58 | KotCzarny | i can try |
| 08:42.11 | KotCzarny | but i dont know advanced usage |
| 08:42.47 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: QRegExp re("[\"]signature[\"],([^\\(]+)"); |
| 08:43.01 | KotCzarny | and your question? |
| 08:43.15 | freemangordon | and "k=new Ev(f.url);f.sig?k.set("signature",f.sig):f.s&&k.set("signature",vc(f.s));" is (a part of) what I want to match |
| 08:43.22 | freemangordon | I need "vc" extracted |
| 08:43.42 | freemangordon | I modified it to "[\"]signature[\"],([\w+]+\()" |
| 08:43.50 | freemangordon | but it matches "vc(" |
| 08:44.00 | Maxdamantus | What are the []s around " for? |
| 08:44.10 | freemangordon | this is youtube signature function extractor from cutetube :) |
| 08:44.34 | KotCzarny | there are two "signature" strings |
| 08:44.34 | Maxdamantus | Presumably you want to change \() to )\( |
| 08:44.47 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: yes |
| 08:44.56 | freemangordon | but what I need is the second one |
| 08:45.11 | Maxdamantus | (at the end) |
| 08:45.20 | freemangordon | the "vc(f.s)" call |
| 08:45.29 | freemangordon | Maxdamantus: no, it closes the matching group |
| 08:45.54 | KotCzarny | you want "\"signature\",(vc.*?)\); maybe? |
| 08:45.58 | Maxdamantus | freemangordon: right, but you only want "vc", not "vc("? |
| 08:46.00 | freemangordon | lemme try |
| 08:46.05 | KotCzarny | "\"signature\",(vc.*?)\);" |
| 08:46.07 | freemangordon | Maxdamantus: yes |
| 08:46.15 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: ah, it is not that simple |
| 08:46.20 | freemangordon | the function name changes ;) |
| 08:46.24 | Maxdamantus | So you expect a literal ( to appear after the matched group. |
| 08:46.30 | Maxdamantus | ie (..)\( |
| 08:46.51 | KotCzarny | "\"signature\",([a-z+\(].*?)\);" |
| 08:47.02 | freemangordon | Maxdamantus: in English please, I can't really grok the syntax and logic of regexp :) |
| 08:47.24 | KotCzarny | erm, "\"signature\",([a-z+\(]+.*?)\);" |
| 08:47.32 | Maxdamantus | I'm guessing the (non-escaped) brackets denote the matching group. |
| 08:47.38 | freemangordon | Maxdamantus: yes |
| 08:47.43 | Maxdamantus | while escapd brackets are just literal characters. |
| 08:47.46 | freemangordon | yes |
| 08:47.48 | KotCzarny | try the last one |
| 08:47.51 | freemangordon | ok |
| 08:48.09 | Maxdamantus | KotCzarny: your last bracket is the wrong way round. |
| 08:48.14 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: hmm, that ";" at the end... |
| 08:48.19 | Maxdamantus | Should be \( at the end, not \) |
| 08:48.42 | KotCzarny | oh, so we want only function name |
| 08:48.47 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: remember, this is obfuscated js, we may have "," and whatnot instead of ";" |
| 08:48.51 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: yes |
| 08:49.35 | freemangordon | ah, wait, so if I add another "\" at the end, it will be stripped from the result? |
| 08:49.42 | freemangordon | "\)" |
| 08:49.50 | Maxdamantus | I'd probably go with: "\"signature\",([^\)]+)\(" |
| 08:50.05 | Maxdamantus | assuming I understand the regex syntax. |
| 08:50.33 | Maxdamantus | prefers just using the syntax used in sed/grep. |
| 08:50.42 | Maxdamantus | BRE or whatever it is. |
| 08:50.42 | freemangordon | that matches nothing |
| 08:50.50 | Maxdamantus | er |
| 08:51.05 | Maxdamantus | "\"signature\",([^\\)]+)\\(" |
| 08:51.18 | Maxdamantus | since this is a string literal in some language. |
| 08:51.41 | Maxdamantus | (should escape the backslashes so they're part of the regexp string) |
| 08:53.17 | KotCzarny | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:53.24 | KotCzarny | this one, otherwise it would catch too much |
| 08:53.45 | Maxdamantus | KotCzarny: which backslashes are meant to appear in the regexp? |
| 08:54.08 | KotCzarny | yeah, though php's re didnt complain about ( in [] |
| 08:54.32 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: want me to try ^^^? |
| 08:54.39 | Maxdamantus | I'm talking about "\(" == "(" |
| 08:54.46 | Maxdamantus | dunno if that's true in PHP |
| 08:55.00 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: cool, looks like working |
| 08:55.10 | KotCzarny | ahm, additional quotes in qregexp might be needed |
| 08:55.22 | freemangordon | yes, I know |
| 08:55.23 | KotCzarny | fmg, but it's fragile, as always |
| 08:55.32 | freemangordon | I am using https://regex101.com/ to test |
| 08:55.34 | KotCzarny | since js/webscraping is quirky |
| 08:55.38 | freemangordon | yes, I know it is fragile |
| 08:56.20 | KotCzarny | there are pre matches in RE, but i have never really grasped them, yet |
| 08:56.29 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: if you have a better idea on how to get the signature frunction from youtube base.js, I am all ears :) |
| 08:56.33 | KotCzarny | (think of match withing a match) |
| 08:57.01 | KotCzarny | *within |
| 08:58.05 | KotCzarny | i'm using this snippet for testing: http://pastebin.com/raw/F92Kn0mP |
| 08:58.37 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: hmm, your regexp counts on ":" being present, which is not guaranteed |
| 08:59.01 | KotCzarny | fmg, then you should first try with : and if it returns empty do second re without : |
| 08:59.30 | inz | no need to escape the ( inside [] btw (just sayin') |
| 08:59.33 | KotCzarny | and function you have pasted looks like trigraph (a?b:c) |
| 08:59.59 | KotCzarny | so unless you match multiple cases, it should work |
| 09:00.40 | freemangordon | this is how it looks today, tomorrow google will change it to look some other way |
| 09:00.49 | freemangordon | I want ti working tomorrow as well |
| 09:00.57 | KotCzarny | see 'fragile' part |
| 09:01.09 | inz | that's why you use youtube-dl -U |
| 09:01.28 | KotCzarny | youtube-dl is fragile too, it's just that it's updated regularly ;) |
| 09:01.41 | freemangordon | inz: it is qregexp, afaik it is a little bit different than php, those brackets were put there by the original author (marxian), I don;t want to mess with them |
| 09:02.22 | freemangordon | inz: ever tried cutetube? |
| 09:02.46 | KotCzarny | doesnt cutetube rely on youtube-dl ? |
| 09:02.49 | freemangordon | no |
| 09:03.03 | freemangordon | it has has nothing in common afaik |
| 09:03.09 | inz | I think I once did, it didn't work at that time. |
| 09:03.24 | KotCzarny | there is cutetube2 which is the one maintained |
| 09:03.34 | freemangordon | well, yes, I meant cutetube2 |
| 09:04.11 | KotCzarny | which is stupid imo and ct should be replaced with ct2, and whole ct2 just should point to ct |
| 09:04.50 | KotCzarny | offtopic, i've just fixed oscp to pass -Wall -Wextra -Werror ;) |
| 09:06.57 | KotCzarny | fmg, there is no guarantee how base.js will look tomorrow, so no matter the RE. you just can't rely on anything being stable in it |
| 09:07.10 | Maxdamantus | imo a youtube program should just do things by executing `youtube-dl` |
| 09:07.54 | Maxdamantus | that way the user can at least keep an up-to-date version of it in his/her PATH if everything else ends up unmaintained. |
| 09:07.57 | KotCzarny | maxd: does youtube-dl support spewing data to stdout? |
| 09:08.29 | Maxdamantus | KotCzarny: I imagine so, if not conveniently, it must do with some piping hacks. |
| 09:08.40 | freemangordon | ok, I think I got it, I need to call re.cap(2) for the second capturing group result |
| 09:08.44 | Maxdamantus | It also supports just printing out a URL to download. |
| 09:08.45 | peetah | KotCzarny, Maxdamantus : it does |
| 09:09.16 | KotCzarny | maxd: that's also nice, assuming googl doesnt rely on cookies |
| 09:09.23 | Maxdamantus | but ime, Google has done things like requiring certain headers, so just passing that to curl/wget might not be reliable. |
| 09:11.32 | freemangordon | ok, that's it - QRegExp re("[\"]signature[\"],((\\w+)\\s*\\()"); |
| 09:12.46 | Maxdamantus | That outer group seems redundant. |
| 09:12.57 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 09:13.06 | freemangordon | hmm? |
| 09:13.13 | Maxdamantus | as do the []s |
| 09:13.18 | freemangordon | in English, please :) |
| 09:13.38 | KotCzarny | he means: re("\"signature\",(\\w+)\\s*\\("); |
| 09:13.38 | freemangordon | redundant or not, this is the first one that works correctly |
| 09:13.50 | Maxdamantus | QRegExp re("\"signature\",(\\w+)\\s*\\("); |
| 09:14.00 | Maxdamantus | jinx |
| 09:14.04 | KotCzarny | 1st! |
| 09:14.25 | Maxdamantus | I had to copy/paste/edit it in osso-xterm |
| 09:14.39 | KotCzarny | also, does \w catch . ? |
| 09:14.39 | freemangordon | ^^^ does not work |
| 09:14.48 | inz | if allowing for spaces between func and paren, why not also between comma and func? |
| 09:15.21 | freemangordon | inz: right |
| 09:15.26 | Maxdamantus | freemangordon: are you looking at the same output? I'm guessing you'd need to look at a different one. |
| 09:15.42 | inz | yah, capture group changes from 2 to 1 with the change |
| 09:15.57 | Maxdamantus | freemangordon: eg, if you were looking at some `match[1]` before it might be `match[0]` after removing the unnecessary capture. |
| 09:16.19 | Maxdamantus | or 2, 1, dunno what convention Qt uses. |
| 09:16.35 | inz | IIRC 0 is the full match |
| 09:16.41 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 09:16.54 | Maxdamantus | Mk, that's at least consistent with JS. |
| 09:17.12 | Maxdamantus | always found tha illogical though. |
| 09:17.13 | KotCzarny | btw. fmg, you need: http://www.regular-expressions.info/lookaround.html |
| 09:17.24 | KotCzarny | but as i've said its advanced territory ;) |
| 09:17.29 | freemangordon | s, what about [\"]signature[\"]\s*,\s*((\s*\w+)\s*\() |
| 09:17.40 | freemangordon | *so |
| 09:17.54 | freemangordon | I don;t really care if it is optimized or not |
| 09:18.10 | KotCzarny | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:18.12 | freemangordon | as long as it works correctly |
| 09:18.28 | KotCzarny | what would \w catch? |
| 09:18.32 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: no, function name must be word |
| 09:18.48 | freemangordon | it cannot contain dots, or columns etc |
| 09:18.54 | freemangordon | *colons |
| 09:19.00 | KotCzarny | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:19.02 | freemangordon | the fuck, what was the word |
| 09:19.11 | KotCzarny | :alpha: |
| 09:19.39 | freemangordon | \w is equal to [a-zA-Z0-9_] |
| 09:19.55 | KotCzarny | but since it's obfuscated and minimized js i bet \s* around the \w is redundant |
| 09:20.05 | freemangordon | no, it is not |
| 09:20.13 | freemangordon | they put spaces sometimes |
| 09:20.38 | KotCzarny | probably obfuscator failing sometimes |
| 09:20.44 | freemangordon | could be |
| 09:20.50 | inz | KotCzarny, qt does not support lookbehind |
| 09:21.25 | freemangordon | inz: so, what about [\"]signature[\"]\s*,\s*((\s*\w+)\s*\() ? do I miss something obvious? |
| 09:21.40 | KotCzarny | fmg, bad \s inside |
| 09:22.14 | KotCzarny | you dont want your inner match to containe space |
| 09:22.24 | KotCzarny | since function name cant contain space |
| 09:22.44 | inz | not that it would ever match, because * is greedy by default |
| 09:22.48 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: it is ok, it doesn't match "v c" |
| 09:23.11 | KotCzarny | that too, though i never know which direction RE starts being greedy |
| 09:23.34 | freemangordon | guys, please, I don;t really want to learn regexps now :) |
| 09:23.40 | KotCzarny | liar |
| 09:23.41 | inz | yes you do |
| 09:23.45 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 09:23.55 | freemangordon | no, I don;t and I never wanted to ;) |
| 09:24.02 | inz | You need more problems! |
| 09:24.04 | KotCzarny | regexps are handy |
| 09:24.18 | freemangordon | I would prefer a loop every time over a regexp :P |
| 09:24.20 | inz | Yes, they are an awesome tool. Usually the wrong one, but awesome nonetheless! |
| 09:24.36 | KotCzarny | (now some oldtimer should chime with 'in the DOS days we had two wildcards and we were happy') |
| 09:24.38 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 09:24.47 | freemangordon | yes, that's true |
| 09:24.58 | KotCzarny | you can use fnmatch() then |
| 09:25.05 | KotCzarny | :P |
| 09:25.15 | KotCzarny | it's a nice alternative to regexps |
| 09:25.26 | freemangordon | the original code uses regexp, and I don;t wan't to change it much, unless really needed |
| 09:25.52 | freemangordon | anyway, do you see anything wrong with ^^^ regex besides being suboptimal? |
| 09:25.55 | KotCzarny | yup, RE are better in webscraping, fnmatch is nice for simple things though |
| 09:26.18 | KotCzarny | fmg, it works, its ok, but i would change \s*\w+ to \w+ |
| 09:26.28 | KotCzarny | since it's not doing anything |
| 09:26.48 | freemangordon | ok |
| 09:27.05 | Maxdamantus | I'd probably rather do webscraping with DOM, but usually I'd just do it using command-line tools so it would be piped into sed which uses regexp. |
| 09:27.07 | freemangordon | still works, after that change |
| 09:35.46 | KotCzarny | hmm, when does 'read battery bar' show in cssu? |
| 09:36.17 | KotCzarny | i have 5/1282mAh in status, got 'battery low' message, but it's still green bar |
| 09:37.05 | KotCzarny | 5% of 1282 is ~64, so imo it should start showing red there |
| 09:37.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: what's the problem? |
| 09:37.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | (regex) |
| 09:37.41 | freemangordon | yeah |
| 09:37.50 | freemangordon | but it seems we fixed it so far |
| 09:38.19 | KotCzarny | fmg, i have latest cssu-thumb |
| 09:38.26 | freemangordon | cool |
| 09:38.52 | freemangordon | check if you didn;t "fix" something some 2-3 years ago first :) |
| 09:39.11 | freemangordon | you shouldn't have green bar on low battery |
| 09:39.32 | KotCzarny | fmg, it was ok before update |
| 09:39.36 | KotCzarny | (2012) |
| 09:40.01 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: https://github.com/community-ssu/status-area-applet-battery/blob/master/status-area-applet-battery.c |
| 09:40.32 | freemangordon | battery_status_plugin_update_icon |
| 09:41.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | lemme share the nice regex stuff I found |
| 09:42.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | let's start with alias man=':(){ [ "sed" == "$1" ]||{ /usr/bin/man $1;return; }; less -f <(/usr/bin/man sed) <(wget http://sed.sourceforge.net/sed1line.txt -q -O -); };:' |
| 09:44.43 | peetah | ~fiasco |
| 09:44.43 | infobot | L4-compatible real-time microkernel capable of running Linux in usermode. URL: http://os.inf.tu-dresden.de/fiasco/ |
| 09:46.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22937618/reference-what-does-this-regex-mean/22944075#22944075 |
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| 09:47.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | ^^^ excellent! |
| 09:48.13 | peetah | can someone confirm that using 0xffff is safe to flash both Vanilla_PR_EMMC_MR0 and PR_COMBINED_MR0 images ? |
| 09:48.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, is safe |
| 09:48.38 | peetah | DocScrutinizer05: thanks |
| 09:48.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | if it fails, pester pali ;-9 |
| 09:49.14 | peetah | i will :) |
| 09:50.02 | inz | If it breaks your device, you get to keep both pieces. |
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| 09:57.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | N900 is basicaly unbrickable, so safety of 0xFFFF is almost only a question of host system it runs on |
| 09:57.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | in that regard I think 0xFFFF must be safer than my lazyflashing mess |
| 09:58.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~lazyflashing |
| 09:58.17 | infobot | well, lazyflashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach |
| 09:59.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | at least I'm pretty sure 0xFFFF doesn't try LD_PRELOAD tricks ;-P |
| 10:00.46 | KotCzarny | hehe, that statusbar only goes red when value is 0 |
| 10:01.18 | KotCzarny | so with 0mAh reported ;) |
| 10:01.34 | KotCzarny | should be named 'empty' not 'verylow' :P |
| 10:02.35 | KotCzarny | that's with bme_replacement, without it it's set in 0..80 range |
| 10:03.49 | KotCzarny | my bme is 0.8.55+0m5 though |
| 10:03.56 | KotCzarny | weird |
| 10:05.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | peetah: you nevertheless might want to give lazyflashing a try, and pester me if it doesn't help you |
| 10:07.39 | peetah | ~lazyflashing |
| 10:07.39 | infobot | well, lazyflashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach |
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| 16:39.44 | Enrico__ | Hello, I am reading the following page: |
| 16:39.45 | Enrico__ | https://wiki.maemo.org/Nitdroid_easy_install_on_EMMC |
| 16:40.13 | Enrico__ | There's a simplified procedure for installing NITDroid on the N900. However links called by the installer are broken. |
| 16:40.29 | Enrico__ | I have been able to find some packages here: |
| 16:40.58 | Enrico__ | http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/fremantle/ |
| 16:41.30 | Enrico__ | But when trying to install kernel-power-settings, two more packages are required, namely: |
| 16:41.48 | Enrico__ | kernel-feature-overclock |
| 16:41.57 | Enrico__ | kernel-feature-smartreflex |
| 16:42.15 | Enrico__ | They are not in the mentioned repository. Does anybody know where to find them? |
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| 16:48.03 | freemangordon | Enrico__: those are provided by kernel-power package |
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| 16:48.28 | freemangordon | or kernel-power-flasher, can't remember |
| 16:49.14 | Enrico__ | I already installed kernel-power. So probably I need kernel-power-flasher. I will try soon. |
| 16:50.44 | freemangordon | Enrico__: why not use HAM to install stuff? it will pull the required dependencies for you |
| 16:51.02 | Enrico__ | You mean the package manager? |
| 16:51.29 | Enrico__ | (Once started up Maemo, in the graphical environment?) |
| 16:51.29 | freemangordon | yes |
| 16:51.44 | Enrico__ | It does not work. Sits there and doesn't download anything. |
| 16:51.45 | freemangordon | HAM == hildon-application-manager |
| 16:51.59 | freemangordon | give it some time, like 10 minutes :) |
| 16:52.04 | Enrico__ | Ah sorry. DIdn't know the acronymous. |
| 16:52.08 | Enrico__ | 10 minutes??? |
| 16:52.16 | freemangordon | if you want it to be fast, install CSSU |
| 16:52.35 | freemangordon | ~speedyham |
| 16:52.35 | infobot | SpeedyHAM is 30 times faster than HAM http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb. SpeedyHAM is included in CSSU now |
| 16:52.48 | Enrico__ | Ok ok I can wait... I just thought it didn't find anything! |
| 16:53.16 | Enrico__ | And what about multiboot-kernel-maemo and multiboot-kernel-power? Same way? |
| 16:53.30 | freemangordon | also, stock HAM tries to use Nokia repos, which are dead for a long time |
| 16:53.38 | freemangordon | multiboot is deprecated |
| 16:53.52 | freemangordon | also, never used it so dunno |
| 16:54.06 | Enrico__ | I tried with u-boot, but created many problems. |
| 16:54.12 | freemangordon | u-boot is the way |
| 16:54.26 | freemangordon | shouldn;t create any problems |
| 16:54.39 | Enrico__ | Ok. The problems are: |
| 16:54.57 | freemangordon | you just neet to install the required -bootimg (like kernel-power-bootimg) and it will created the needed entries for you |
| 16:55.21 | freemangordon | *create |
| 16:55.53 | Enrico__ | - first, the interface. I have been unable to access it by usb, so I have to manage by the small N900 keyboard and screen |
| 16:56.05 | freemangordon | which interface? |
| 16:56.06 | Enrico__ | - and the keyboard mapping is not standard |
| 16:56.16 | Enrico__ | I mean the shell. |
| 16:56.20 | Enrico__ | Sorry bad language. |
| 16:56.32 | freemangordon | u-boot shell? why do you need it at first? |
| 16:56.44 | freemangordon | *first place |
| 16:57.01 | Enrico__ | I am trying to understand how it works. Just to be able to put files where I want. |
| 16:57.08 | freemangordon | ah, I see |
| 16:57.11 | freemangordon | ~uboot |
| 16:57.11 | infobot | N900 uBoot is a siamese twin binary [uBoot+stockMaemoKernel] that resides in kernel NAND partition /dev/mtd3 aka "kernel". You can't uninstall it, rather you'll nuke it when you flash/install another kernel like stock maemo kernel or powerkernel. To start other than stock maemo kernel via uBoot, you have to provide the according kernel image files, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81613 |
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| 16:57.46 | freemangordon | Enrico__: look at ^^^ |
| 16:57.54 | freemangordon | the thread at TMO I mean |
| 16:57.56 | Enrico__ | I am reading. |
| 16:58.18 | freemangordon | also, install kernel-power-bootimg, to give you an example on how to create u-boot entry |
| 16:58.48 | freemangordon | you just copy it, edit to your needs, run u-boot-update-bootmenu and thats it |
| 16:59.25 | Enrico__ | Ok I already understood something about u-boot in the last few days. I didn't find the name of the NAND partition, now I have it. Thanks for that. |
| 16:59.35 | freemangordon | Enrico__: look in /etc/bootmenu.d |
| 16:59.39 | freemangordon | NAND? |
| 16:59.41 | freemangordon | are you sure? |
| 17:00.19 | Enrico__ | What is written a bit up? Not "kernel NAND partition"? |
| 17:00.21 | freemangordon | there are 5 OneNAND partiotion, and all of them are used by maemo |
| 17:00.51 | freemangordon | Enrico__: read the thread, it is all there |
| 17:00.59 | Enrico__ | A minute... |
| 17:01.17 | freemangordon | Enrico__: /me gtg, ping Pali if you need help re u-bbot |
| 17:01.24 | freemangordon | *u-boot |
| 17:01.49 | Enrico__ | I already had many talks with Pali. Also via email. He helped me to unbrick my device. |
| 17:02.01 | freemangordon | as expected :) |
| 17:02.04 | Enrico__ | But he says he does not know about NITDroid. |
| 17:02.13 | freemangordon | actually he is the u-boot maintainer |
| 17:02.23 | freemangordon | me neither, sorry |
| 17:02.30 | freemangordon | anyway, bye |
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| 17:02.34 | Enrico__ | I know. But NITDroid has not any automatic procedure for installing on u-boot. |
| 17:03.42 | Enrico__ | I need to understand how to access the NAND partition where the /root directory is (but that's not mandatory to be honest), and I don't know exactly what to pass to NITDroid through u-boot to obtain a correct startup. |
| 17:04.31 | Enrico__ | I have been able to begin the boot, but NITDroid kernel doesnt' find many things (I think the root directory and the initial file system.) |
| 17:33.21 | KotCzarny | xes, why does tmo direct link to post breaks formatting? looks like runaway <center> or something, can it be fixed? |
| 17:33.39 | KotCzarny | in related new, oscp has now manual on tmo |
| 17:33.42 | KotCzarny | *news |
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| 17:53.13 | xes | KotCzarny: an example? |
| 17:53.58 | KotCzarny | just any post, for example http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1460158&postcount=3 |
| 17:55.27 | xes | KotCzarny: have you tried another browser or a different user agent? |
| 17:55.45 | KotCzarny | hmm, it might be that dark-classic them im using. hrm |
| 17:55.56 | KotCzarny | can you click theme on the bottom? |
| 17:56.29 | KotCzarny | http://i.imgur.com/0SXVxWi.png |
| 17:56.34 | KotCzarny | that's how it looks for me |
| 17:57.11 | xes | yep. It's an issue of the dark theme |
| 17:57.26 | KotCzarny | eh. any chance of fixing that theme? |
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| 17:58.48 | KotCzarny | <table class="tborder" id="post1460157" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center"> |
| 17:58.54 | xes | i will try.. |
| 17:58.55 | KotCzarny | this looks like a culprit |
| 17:59.48 | KotCzarny | and while it might be genuinely used for centering post on the screen, that classic themes might miss uncentering the content after that |
| 18:00.54 | KotCzarny | why not just scroll to post instead of displaying single-post? |
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| 18:03.08 | KotCzarny | ie. those little links on thread would look better this way: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94590#postcount1460158 |
| 18:03.37 | KotCzarny | and has a bonus of being able to read previous/next posts without changing page |
| 18:04.35 | KotCzarny | btw. that last link already works |
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| 18:19.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | showpost is fubar, s/post/thread/ and you're fine |
| 18:19.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | literally |
| 18:20.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually showpost always been fubar |
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| 21:50.38 | Pali | FUCK OFF PULSEAUDIO!!! |
| 21:50.54 | Pali | kernel: [14525.614165] pulseaudio[5521]: segfault at 18 ip 00007ff7a1cd16d9 sp 00007ffdad0eefb0 error 4 in libpulsecore-5.0.so[7ff7a1c6f000+8f000] |
| 21:50.56 | Pali | it crashed |
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| 21:51.32 | Pali | and now when I want to start it again it again it just show me error message: N: [pulseaudio] main.c: User-configured server at {b80eeeba890737b39f0c899a00000008}unix:/tmp/pulse-AcBAanBtuBoD/native, refusing to start/autospawn. |
| 21:51.37 | Pali | and nothing is running |
| 21:51.42 | Pali | so no sound |
| 21:52.39 | Pali | great software... looks like if it do not do clean shutdown, then it is not possible to start it again |
| 22:00.32 | freemangordon | Pali: what distro is that? |
| 22:00.39 | freemangordon | ubuntu? |
| 22:00.41 | Pali | yes |
| 22:00.47 | freemangordon | 12.04? |
| 22:00.50 | Pali | yes |
| 22:01.00 | Pali | seems user here have same problem http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/282048/pulseaudio-how-to-restart-without-restart-x11-if-delete-tmp |
| 22:01.06 | Pali | but I did not deteled anything |
| 22:01.08 | freemangordon | isn't it still supported? |
| 22:01.14 | Pali | just pulseaudio crashed |
| 22:01.24 | Pali | 12.04 is still supported |
| 22:01.45 | freemangordon | well, at least send error report to canonical |
| 22:01.53 | freemangordon | they might fix it |
| 22:02.16 | Pali | I doubt... and I do not have reproducer |
| 22:02.31 | Pali | this is first time it crashed in way that it is not able to start |
| 22:02.49 | freemangordon | you should have apport (or something like that) |
| 22:02.55 | Pali | disabled |
| 22:02.59 | freemangordon | ah |
| 22:03.12 | freemangordon | coredump? |
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| 22:03.39 | Pali | do not have it |
| 22:03.51 | Pali | but I'm angry as I cannot start it again |
| 22:04.07 | Pali | basically now it is not running and it fail to start |
| 22:04.13 | freemangordon | yeah, got it |
| 22:04.30 | freemangordon | maybe killing X will suffice? |
| 22:04.46 | Pali | crash does not matter here... but nonworking start is wrong! |
| 22:04.58 | freemangordon | sure |
| 22:05.05 | Pali | I have open apps which I do not want to close now... so restart X not right now |
| 22:05.15 | Pali | but maybe it is X related... |
| 22:05.20 | Pali | going to google |
| 22:05.54 | Pali | bingo! pax11publish -r it fixed |
| 22:06.07 | freemangordon | :) |
| 22:06.07 | Pali | https://wiki.parabola.nu/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting |
| 22:06.42 | Pali | pax11publish -d show me some registered path to crashed and non-running PA process |
| 22:06.50 | Pali | that -r clean it |
| 22:07.04 | Pali | and now pulseaudio server started again |
| 22:07.11 | Pali | stupid error message |
| 22:07.25 | Pali | and even stupid detection if server is running or not |
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