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| 05:46.03 | chatter29 | allah is doing |
| 05:46.07 | chatter29 | sun is not doing allah is doing |
| 05:46.11 | chatter29 | to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger |
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| 07:47.18 | KotCzarny | hrm |
| 07:47.26 | KotCzarny | what could be the reason of mass storage mode not working? |
| 07:47.56 | KotCzarny | when i connect cable, i click 'mass storage', but it stays at 'charging only' |
| 07:48.04 | bencoh | KotCzarny: inability to umount (busy fs) maybe? |
| 07:48.24 | KotCzarny | when i do lsof|grep -i mydocs i dont see anything |
| 07:48.25 | bencoh | I'd suggest lsof -n |
| 07:48.49 | KotCzarny | opt is on different partition, right? |
| 07:49.08 | KotCzarny | so only something with 'mydocs' in the path should matter in such case |
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| 08:04.39 | KotCzarny | also, i can umount mydocs just fine from cmdline |
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| 09:38.52 | Enrico309 | Hello everybody. Need help with kernel boot. |
| 09:38.59 | Enrico309 | Please let me know if you can read me. |
| 09:42.21 | sixwheeledbeast | What help do you require, you may have to hang about for an answer. |
| 09:42.52 | Enrico309 | Hello, thanks for answering. |
| 09:43.13 | Enrico309 | I have reflashed my N900, and installed u-boot. |
| 09:43.30 | Enrico309 | Then I was trying to install NITDroid, and messed up something. |
| 09:43.45 | Enrico309 | Now I can access u-boot console, but not the OS. |
| 09:44.06 | Enrico309 | I have been able to put the kernel image on a sd card and make it start. |
| 09:44.21 | Enrico309 | But when it starts it sits for a while and then reboots. |
| 09:44.42 | Enrico309 | I nedd help on how to set the system in order for Maemo to properly start. |
| 09:45.14 | Enrico309 | Note: I cannot reflash the device, since it is not recognised by my computer anymore. |
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| 09:49.51 | Enrico309 | Hi Pali, are you the developer of u-boot for the N900? |
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| 10:13.15 | sixwheeledbeast | ~nitdroid |
| 10:13.15 | infobot | [nitdroid] Nokia Internet Tablets with android OS. Support on nitdroid is provided in the channel #nitdroid and #nitdroid-help and Nokia does not officially support owners with android OS on their tablets. For more information read here: http://nitdroid.com/index.php?title=NITDroid_project. If you have bricked your N900 device and have installed nitdroid, flash with both eMMC and fiasco. |
| 10:15.04 | Enrico309 | I cannot flash because the device is not recognised by my computer anymore. |
| 10:15.16 | KotCzarny | ~flashing |
| 10:15.16 | infobot | from memory, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing |
| 10:15.21 | KotCzarny | try that script |
| 10:16.47 | Enrico309 | Sorry, I don't understand what ~flashing means. |
| 10:17.05 | KotCzarny | download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh |
| 10:18.06 | KotCzarny | dont forget that you have to power off n900 and connect it to your machine after you get prompted AND without turning it on |
| 10:19.40 | Enrico309 | I was trying to use the flasher-3.5. I have been able to install it on Windows Vista. |
| 10:19.49 | Enrico309 | The problem is that the device is not recognised. |
| 10:20.07 | freemangordon | anybody knowing sparql? |
| 10:20.33 | KotCzarny | Enrico309: better find some old laptop and install 32bit linux |
| 10:21.03 | freemangordon | or boot 32bit linux from falsh drive/cd |
| 10:21.07 | KotCzarny | or just run some 32bit livecd linux |
| 10:21.09 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 10:21.09 | freemangordon | *flash |
| 10:21.38 | Enrico309 | Ok, but please let me know... does this script require the flasher-3.5? |
| 10:21.48 | freemangordon | most probably |
| 10:21.53 | KotCzarny | it includes everything you need |
| 10:21.57 | KotCzarny | flasher and flashing images |
| 10:22.10 | Enrico309 | Ok, I will have a look at it. |
| 10:23.11 | KotCzarny | fmg, got an idea why mass storage isnt working on n900? even after clicking on requester it stays in charge only |
| 10:27.08 | sixwheeledbeast | The lazy script above is a shell script IIRC so not for windows. |
| 10:27.55 | Enrico309 | Yes, I have also a Mac. The problem is that I cannot install the flasher there. |
| 10:28.11 | KotCzarny | see 'livecd' |
| 10:28.59 | Enrico309 | Ok, first thing I will do is to open the .sh script with the Mac and look at what's going on there. |
| 10:29.28 | sixwheeledbeast | Also issues may occur detecting device with a USB hub, make sure you use a USB port directly. Ones on the back. |
| 10:30.05 | Enrico309 | I have a laptop - no USB ports on the back. Just on sides. |
| 10:30.22 | sixwheeledbeast | https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware#Mac_OS_X ? |
| 10:30.32 | Enrico309 | But before bricking it, the device was recognised. |
| 10:31.12 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: what os? |
| 10:31.36 | KotCzarny | fmg, stock, but it was working before and i dont remember installing or changing anything in the meantime |
| 10:31.53 | freemangordon | I mean - what OS is on the PC |
| 10:32.10 | KotCzarny | fmg, probably android, or some tv os |
| 10:33.03 | freemangordon | does it work when connected to some "normal" PC? |
| 10:33.08 | KotCzarny | let me check |
| 10:33.45 | freemangordon | Enrico309: what happened so you've bricked it? |
| 10:35.03 | freemangordon | Enrico309: depending on the type of "brick" you may need to cold-flash it |
| 10:35.25 | freemangordon | flasher-3.5 will do the job, but it is tricky |
| 10:35.29 | freemangordon | ~cold-flash |
| 10:35.30 | KotCzarny | when connected to pc no reaction |
| 10:35.46 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: you're sure USB cable is ok? |
| 10:35.46 | KotCzarny | could it be a symptom of usb port dying? |
| 10:36.02 | freemangordon | yes, but you'd better check with other USB cable first |
| 10:36.09 | freemangordon | ~ping |
| 10:36.09 | infobot | 1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss |
| 10:36.17 | freemangordon | ~cold-flashing |
| 10:36.22 | freemangordon | grrr |
| 10:36.54 | KotCzarny | when i rebooted there was is some activity in device manager |
| 10:37.40 | KotCzarny | and got usb type requester, but clicking on 'mass storage' doesnt change anything |
| 10:38.26 | KotCzarny | so i assume cable is ok, but os somehow fails to initialize the gadget maybe |
| 10:38.47 | bencoh | err what do you mean by "not recognized anymore" by the way? |
| 10:38.53 | bencoh | ah |
| 10:39.23 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: looks like, you'd better boot some linux and check what dmesg says |
| 10:39.34 | KotCzarny | btw. there was g_ether loaded |
| 10:39.43 | Enrico309 | I was moving files on the directory structure from the terminal. |
| 10:39.53 | KotCzarny | after removing it there was some activity in device manager |
| 10:40.00 | freemangordon | Enrico309: see https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware/Cold_Flashing |
| 10:41.06 | KotCzarny | http://pastebin.com/raw/fCX19WCn |
| 10:41.13 | KotCzarny | dmesg bit from n900 |
| 10:41.50 | Enrico309 | I already tried the cold flash. The device is not seen by the computer. |
| 10:41.58 | Enrico309 | (Again, this on Windows.) |
| 10:42.08 | Enrico309 | I will manage to do something with the Mac. |
| 10:42.21 | Enrico309 | But first I would like to know how to communicate with the device. |
| 10:44.12 | KotCzarny | how can i change usb mode from cmdline on n900? |
| 10:44.22 | KotCzarny | ie. start mass storage |
| 10:44.47 | freemangordon | Enrico309: as I said, it is tricky, you only have about 200-300ms for the detection |
| 10:45.24 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: ass long as g_mass_storage is loaded, it should be fine |
| 10:45.36 | KotCzarny | fmg: it doesnt need some configuration? |
| 10:45.38 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: again, get dmesg log from host PC |
| 10:45.53 | freemangordon | well, it needs, but it should be done |
| 10:46.07 | KotCzarny | you mean g_file_storage ? |
| 10:46.09 | freemangordon | check in /sbin/osso-usb-mass-storage.sh or somesuch |
| 10:46.16 | freemangordon | yep |
| 10:47.06 | KotCzarny | hmm, running osso-usb-mass-storage-enable.sh from cmdline made it work |
| 10:47.37 | freemangordon | Enrico309: by the time I had windoze XP here, it was taking 8-10 cable reconnects so cold-flash detection to work |
| 10:47.47 | freemangordon | and knowing vista is way heavier... |
| 10:48.21 | freemangordon | I guess it just doesn't manage to install the needed driver before it is too late |
| 10:48.47 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: weird |
| 10:50.06 | Enrico309 | Ok, let's say I work on the Mac. How may I communicate with the device? |
| 10:51.25 | Enrico309 | And I read the flash-it-all script. It just makes use of the flasher-3.5. I am able to do that without the script. |
| 10:51.29 | KotCzarny | fmg, is it normal to have g_ether loaded on boot? |
| 10:51.45 | Enrico309 | Just, I don't have the flasher on the Mac. |
| 10:53.25 | KotCzarny | said 'works' too early, it loaded, i see drives in 'my computer' but they arent accessible. and i see 'charging only' in the systray |
| 10:53.44 | KotCzarny | and mydocs is mounted still |
| 10:53.48 | KotCzarny | (on n900) |
| 10:58.03 | KotCzarny | it's as it fails to configure file to export |
| 10:58.59 | KotCzarny | hum, might be that script needs param passed |
| 10:59.08 | freemangordon | Enrico309: I doubt flash-it-all script will help if 1st stage loader is broken, you should do cold-flash by hand |
| 10:59.25 | freemangordon | Enrico309: also, I can't help with anything apple :) |
| 10:59.44 | Pali | Enrico309: pong |
| 10:59.51 | Pali | see mailbox |
| 10:59.54 | Maxdamantus | btw, it's definitely not going to work (at least not safely) if you have any files/directories open from the MyDocs mount. |
| 11:00.07 | KotCzarny | maxd: lsof shows nothing |
| 11:00.19 | KotCzarny | at least on lsof|grep -i mydocs |
| 11:00.22 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: do you still have terminal opened? |
| 11:00.28 | Maxdamantus | lsof isn't necessarily reliable. |
| 11:00.29 | KotCzarny | and as i've said, i can umount mydocs without a problem |
| 11:00.49 | Maxdamantus | Hm, okay. |
| 11:01.40 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: you could try to rmmod g_file_storage by hand, then load it by hand with the correct parameters |
| 11:02.07 | freemangordon | and do "echo /dev/whatevermydocspartis > /sys/..." |
| 11:02.28 | Maxdamantus | .. and hope that maemo doesn't automatically mount it again. |
| 11:02.48 | freemangordon | sorry, can't remember the /sys/ path for g_file_storage parameters |
| 11:03.09 | Maxdamantus | If you've rmmodded it, you can just pass in the parameters as you modprobe it again. |
| 11:03.17 | Maxdamantus | modprobe g_file_storage file=/dev/mmcblk... |
| 11:03.31 | freemangordon | Maxdamantus: maemo usee LUNS=2 |
| 11:03.34 | freemangordon | *uses |
| 11:04.06 | freemangordon | but yeah, maybe it is possible to provide files to be exported on cmdline |
| 11:04.49 | freemangordon | Pali: so, upstream replacement for tracker-client is tracker-sparql, right? |
| 11:05.01 | Pali | I really do not know |
| 11:05.30 | freemangordon | do you know SPARQL? |
| 11:05.46 | Maxdamantus | The luns parameter seems to just specify a maximum number of luns, so that shouldn't be a problem. |
| 11:05.55 | freemangordon | hmm, right |
| 11:06.06 | Maxdamantus | afaik maemo will usually only have 1 anyway. |
| 11:06.25 | freemangordon | no, my maemo usualy has 2 :) |
| 11:06.34 | Maxdamantus | Heh. |
| 11:06.41 | freemangordon | mydocs and vfat partotion on uSD :) |
| 11:06.46 | freemangordon | *partition |
| 11:06.57 | Maxdamantus | My maemo usually doesn't use g_file_storage or FAT at all. |
| 11:07.16 | freemangordon | ssh is too slow |
| 11:07.27 | freemangordon | to copy a video file for example |
| 11:08.10 | Maxdamantus | If I need to copy a single large file I'll just use netcat and pipe it to dd with oflags=sync after remounting the filesystem with -o sync |
| 11:08.44 | Maxdamantus | If I need to copy lots of large files I'll probably just run an rsync server somewhere. |
| 11:08.56 | Maxdamantus | er, lots of small files* |
| 11:10.00 | freemangordon | doesn't work (in real-time) if you want to copy some movie downloaded on your PC to n900 (connected to TV set) :) |
| 11:10.00 | KotCzarny | tinysmb? |
| 11:10.13 | KotCzarny | quite nice and works like a charm |
| 11:10.29 | freemangordon | no way you can achieve 15MB/s over the wifi |
| 11:10.47 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 11:11.29 | Maxdamantus | I meant over g_ether. |
| 11:11.46 | Maxdamantus | If it's over wifi I won't bother with the sync stuff because the filesystem will be fast enough anyway. |
| 11:11.54 | freemangordon | ah |
| 11:11.57 | freemangordon | g_ether |
| 11:12.18 | freemangordon | still, it is slower and more complicated |
| 11:12.28 | Maxdamantus | I'd usually just transfer one-off small things over ssh/wifi. |
| 11:12.40 | freemangordon | but yeah, will do the job |
| 11:12.44 | KotCzarny | hmm, i've added some debug to /usr/sbin/osso-usb-mass-storage-enable.sh , but it apparently isnt called at all |
| 11:12.54 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: ke-recv is running? |
| 11:13.03 | KotCzarny | yea |
| 11:13.11 | freemangordon | try to restart it |
| 11:13.14 | KotCzarny | i get usb mode dialog so it should be |
| 11:14.03 | freemangordon | also, iirc there is some verbose debug ke-recv cmdline switch |
| 11:14.16 | freemangordon | Pali: ^^^ how to enable verbose logging in ke-recv? |
| 11:15.39 | KotCzarny | no banana |
| 11:19.33 | Pali | freemangordon: logging is in syslog |
| 11:19.49 | KotCzarny | maybe it's time to upgrade to cssu |
| 11:20.00 | KotCzarny | still, would be nice to know where it fails now |
| 11:20.05 | Pali | and you probably need to add #define DEBUG at the begining of affected file |
| 11:20.24 | Pali | ke-recv uses osso-log.h for logging |
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| 11:26.30 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: wait, what?!? |
| 11:26.38 | freemangordon | you're not on cssu? |
| 11:26.54 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 11:27.05 | freemangordon | no more help for you :p |
| 11:27.21 | freemangordon | until you install cssu |
| 11:27.21 | KotCzarny | ok, ok, i'm upgrading, i just hope it wont fry my n900 :P |
| 11:27.33 | KotCzarny | ~cssu |
| 11:27.34 | infobot | [cssu] http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) |
| 11:27.53 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: jump on -thumb |
| 11:27.55 | KotCzarny | would i get help if i go cssu-thumb thouhg :P |
| 11:28.01 | freemangordon | sure :) |
| 11:28.04 | KotCzarny | k |
| 11:33.48 | KotCzarny | hrm, ham says i have cssu-testing enabled |
| 11:34.00 | KotCzarny | did i go cssu in the past and forgot about it? |
| 11:36.33 | KotCzarny | oh, and btw. when i click update in ham it tries to force me to backup, and there is no 'skip backup' button |
| 11:37.33 | KotCzarny | mp-fremantle-community-pr 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo1.2 |
| 11:47.59 | KotCzarny | oh, 'continue' button was missing because of the pkg conflicts. fixed them and now i can update to cssu-testing11 |
| 11:48.37 | KotCzarny | would be nice to have more intuitive notification why i can't continue (it was only in update details tab) |
| 11:50.28 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: once you have CSSU installed, you will have that "more intuitive notification" :) |
| 11:50.38 | freemangordon | iirc |
| 11:50.44 | KotCzarny | fmg, it looks like i had cssu-testing 1.2 |
| 11:50.59 | freemangordon | which is how old? |
| 11:51.15 | KotCzarny | and now i recall i wasnt able to skip the 'create backup' because 'continue' was missing |
| 11:51.28 | KotCzarny | 5 years old ;) |
| 11:55.01 | KotCzarny | it's updating (and nuked my wifi/ssh connection in the process, so fingers crossed) |
| 11:55.16 | freemangordon | :) |
| 11:56.22 | KotCzarny | can i jump onto cassu-thumb from cssu-testing? |
| 11:58.58 | freemangordon | yes |
| 12:01.00 | KotCzarny | wtf, it came in portrait mode after reboot o.O |
| 12:01.08 | freemangordon | well, it happens |
| 12:01.14 | freemangordon | just reboot once again |
| 12:01.30 | freemangordon | there is bug somewhere in hildon-desktop |
| 12:01.45 | freemangordon | unless you have locked it in portrait mode |
| 12:01.57 | KotCzarny | half of the icons are missed |
| 12:02.05 | KotCzarny | k, reboot |
| 12:02.50 | freemangordon | keep the kbd opened, just in case |
| 12:03.26 | KotCzarny | portrait again |
| 12:03.50 | KotCzarny | opening kb didnt switch to landscape |
| 12:04.24 | freemangordon | you have locked your device in portait :) |
| 12:04.44 | KotCzarny | k, how do i get to normal? |
| 12:05.21 | sixwheeledbeast | I found an amusing bug I couldn't reproduce that had the device switching portrait landscape in a loop :) |
| 12:05.21 | KotCzarny | my neck is starting to be in pain |
| 12:05.24 | KotCzarny | oh |
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| 12:05.37 | freemangordon | install ... ummm... |
| 12:05.37 | KotCzarny | it came to landscape by itself now |
| 12:05.43 | KotCzarny | automagically |
| 12:05.53 | KotCzarny | maybe it was still booting |
| 12:06.16 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: orientation-lock-applet |
| 12:06.30 | KotCzarny | mhm, i seem to have this before update |
| 12:06.34 | KotCzarny | now its missing |
| 12:06.48 | freemangordon | yes, because it is not a part of cssu anymore |
| 12:06.59 | freemangordon | but you can install it from HAM |
| 12:07.03 | KotCzarny | uhum |
| 12:07.19 | KotCzarny | imo it should be included |
| 12:07.28 | freemangordon | it was decided against |
| 12:07.35 | freemangordon | can't remember why |
| 12:07.41 | KotCzarny | what was the reasining? |
| 12:07.46 | KotCzarny | *reasoning |
| 12:07.48 | freemangordon | can't remember |
| 12:08.08 | KotCzarny | it's part of the general ui experience |
| 12:08.19 | freemangordon | it was some political reasoning :) |
| 12:08.27 | KotCzarny | the worst kind |
| 12:08.48 | KotCzarny | anything else is missing that i should reinstall? |
| 12:08.54 | freemangordon | NFC |
| 12:09.23 | freemangordon | how am I supposed to know what you have had installed on your device :) |
| 12:09.51 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: does mass-storage work? |
| 12:10.21 | sixwheeledbeast | because it's not in stock maemo |
| 12:10.41 | freemangordon | yeah, some kind of that |
| 12:10.58 | sixwheeledbeast | If you are not interested in portrait then is clutter. |
| 12:11.10 | sixwheeledbeast | I can understand why it's optional |
| 12:11.14 | freemangordon | mhm |
| 12:11.57 | KotCzarny | most phone with accelerometer usually allow user to decide which mode should be uses port/land/auto |
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| 12:12.13 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: but not stock n900 |
| 12:12.20 | KotCzarny | so if you cant configure it in the os, it seems like your phone is missing something |
| 12:12.25 | sixwheeledbeast | n900 is not most phones tho... |
| 12:12.51 | KotCzarny | it's definitely a feature |
| 12:13.00 | KotCzarny | which isnt essential to have, but nice one |
| 12:13.06 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: nothing stops you from installing it |
| 12:13.14 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 12:13.18 | sixwheeledbeast | It's an optional extra as you could use gconf to keep the status menu uncluttered. |
| 12:13.29 | freemangordon | it is there, just not pushed forcefully |
| 12:13.39 | KotCzarny | its something that should go into setting panel |
| 12:13.59 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: however, does mass-storage work now? |
| 12:14.09 | KotCzarny | let me check |
| 12:14.46 | KotCzarny | nope. clicking usb mode button in status menu and selecting 'mass storage' didnt do the trick |
| 12:14.47 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: BTW, is fsck finished? |
| 12:14.55 | KotCzarny | still shows 'charging only' |
| 12:15.12 | KotCzarny | yup, no fsck in ps |
| 12:15.25 | freemangordon | try another USB cable |
| 12:16.02 | freemangordon | also, I have a similar problem with my dev n900 when connected to some of the USB ports on my PC |
| 12:16.07 | KotCzarny | cable should be fine, because i see mass storage drives, just unconfigured |
| 12:16.15 | freemangordon | ah |
| 12:16.35 | freemangordon | seems you have something installed that messes with it |
| 12:17.30 | KotCzarny | any clue what to search for? |
| 12:19.06 | freemangordon | which gadget module is loaded? |
| 12:23.36 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: ^^^ |
| 12:23.48 | freemangordon | when you connect USB cable that is |
| 12:26.02 | KotCzarny | g_ether |
| 12:26.18 | freemangordon | should be g_file_storage |
| 12:26.28 | freemangordon | wait |
| 12:26.31 | freemangordon | g_ether? |
| 12:26.36 | freemangordon | who loads that? |
| 12:26.44 | KotCzarny | good question |
| 12:26.50 | freemangordon | should be either g_nokia or g_file_storage |
| 12:27.22 | freemangordon | iirc |
| 12:27.39 | KotCzarny | umkay, found it |
| 12:27.51 | freemangordon | hmm? |
| 12:27.52 | KotCzarny | apparently i've modified rcS |
| 12:27.55 | freemangordon | :D |
| 12:27.59 | KotCzarny | 2 years ago |
| 12:28.29 | KotCzarny | i've even added comments in the file ;) |
| 12:28.35 | KotCzarny | just forgot about it |
| 12:28.35 | freemangordon | cool |
| 12:28.48 | KotCzarny | oh well, at least i'm on updated cssu thanks to it ;) |
| 12:28.58 | freemangordon | you may jump to thumb |
| 12:29.16 | KotCzarny | yup, will comment out my changes and see if i get mass storage back |
| 12:32.41 | KotCzarny | ugh, still doesnt work |
| 12:32.53 | KotCzarny | no gagdets loaded at all now |
| 12:33.13 | KotCzarny | oh 'device storage in use' |
| 12:33.24 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: you have changed more things I guess |
| 12:33.28 | freemangordon | aah |
| 12:33.44 | freemangordon | well, close all terminals |
| 12:33.53 | KotCzarny | all closed |
| 12:33.55 | KotCzarny | only ssh open |
| 12:34.07 | freemangordon | in which dir? |
| 12:34.11 | KotCzarny | ~ |
| 12:34.25 | freemangordon | well, something holds mydocs opened |
| 12:34.36 | KotCzarny | huh |
| 12:34.50 | KotCzarny | now when i clicked 'mass storage' it worked, mysterious. |
| 12:35.26 | freemangordon | fsck? |
| 12:35.49 | KotCzarny | maybe, will try rebooting in a moment |
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| 12:46.00 | bencoh | KotCzarny: wait, so now you're using cssu? |
| 12:46.27 | KotCzarny | apparently i have installed cssu-testing at some point in the past |
| 12:46.39 | KotCzarny | somewhere around 2012 ;) |
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| 12:56.38 | KotCzarny | it feels good to organize photos in win7 explorer |
| 13:07.51 | KotCzarny | hum, mydocs didnt get remounted after cable disconnect |
| 13:08.11 | KotCzarny | oh, it did. fsck again then? |
| 13:08.42 | KotCzarny | maybe there should be a statusbar icon to show when mydocs is running/fsck is running ;) |
| 13:17.37 | KotCzarny | 'unable to update 'cssu-thumb', conflivting packages: curl (7,26.0-1maemo1+0cssu1), the heck? |
| 13:35.21 | KotCzarny | WOW |
| 13:35.32 | KotCzarny | 75Megs of ram free after upgrading to thumb |
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| 14:46.45 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: hmm, thats too much |
| 14:47.07 | KotCzarny | i'm not complaining ;) |
| 14:47.10 | freemangordon | or wait, what was the amount of free ram before? |
| 14:47.35 | KotCzarny | at the moment 42M free, 80M cached, 46M swapped |
| 14:47.58 | freemangordon | is there SIM card in that device? |
| 14:48.10 | KotCzarny | yes, it's my main phone that i use daily |
| 15:08.03 | KotCzarny | hmm, ham says 'no updates available', apt-get upgrade says few pkgs are available |
| 15:09.48 | Sicelo | ham does not show updates for packages that you cannot install from ham to begin with |
| 15:10.13 | KotCzarny | it sucks a bit then |
| 15:11.17 | Sicelo | maybe in red pill mode it's better? never tried it |
| 15:11.41 | KotCzarny | will just do some housekeeping with apt-get |
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| 15:33.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | glares at sigyn |
| 15:33.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | and at chanserv and ACL |
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| 19:43.22 | sixwheeledbeast | m.o down for anyone else? |
| 19:43.45 | KotCzarny | wfm |
| 19:52.50 | sixwheeledbeast | :nod: |
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| 20:32.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/talk.maemo.org |
| 20:33.11 | KotCzarny | he asked for m.o, not t.m.o |
| 20:34.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm so happy my /ignore works... not |
| 20:35.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | what you learned: I like to provide gebneric info, not answers made as piecemeal. And those who can see this are the smarter half |
| 20:36.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | also you learned: not everybody adores Captain Obvious |
| 20:37.37 | KotCzarny | he asked for a simple yes/no, not a snotty response that was also wrong (since site might seem up, yet, broken) |
| 20:38.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | FU! |
| 20:39.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | *plonk* |
| 20:40.01 | bencoh | sigh |
| 20:40.32 | bencoh | anyway, m.o works from here |
| 20:42.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | what I really love are twits that think they need to correct answers of others since they are not exactly what those twits would want to see |
| 20:42.24 | KotCzarny | bencoh: bookmark this thingie: http://monitor.maemo.org/ganglia/?c=maemo&m=load_one&r=hour&s=by%20name&hc=4&mc=2 |
| 20:42.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | He didn't ask for that!!! idiot! |
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| 20:45.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | also that's >>a snotty response that was also wrong (since site might seem up, yet, broken)<< |
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| 20:51.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | idly wonders what makes people think others are even more stupid than themselves. When a "wfm" already answered the question if a site is up, how would anybody in their sane mind even assume an URL posted a 30 minutes later was >>a snotty response<< to the original question |
| 21:01.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless of course they conclude from themselves to others |
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| 21:48.07 | peetah | ~sb |
| 21:48.10 | infobot | somebody said scratchbox was a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB |
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| 23:13.05 | sixwheeledbeast | yep thx, I forget that m.o is broken for HTTPS everywhere |