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| 15:09.08 | jonwil | YES, it works :) |
| 15:09.59 | jonwil | My hacked up copy of Farhplan actually finds journeys (and the correct ones too) |
| 15:10.23 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 15:10.37 | KotCzarny | now you should submit patches to farhplan and make them rebuild |
| 15:16.22 | jonwil | No point submitting patches upstream, the upstream version (at http://fahrplan.smurfy.de/) is totally different codebase now and doesn't even support the N900 |
| 15:16.34 | jonwil | that homepage says "For old no longer maintained code of fahrplan (used on the N900 only) visit: https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/?root=fahrplan" |
| 15:16.53 | KotCzarny | huh |
| 15:17.04 | KotCzarny | convince them that n900 is alive and worthy? |
| 15:19.09 | jonwil | The new version uses all sorts of QT stuff N900 doesn't have (QT components for one thing) |
| 15:19.20 | jonwil | i.e. making it work on the N900 would be impossible |
| 15:19.42 | KotCzarny | ho-hum. |
| 15:20.24 | inz | KotCzarny, that convincing somehow reminds me of Dungeonmaster quote: "I reject your reality and substitute my own" |
| 15:20.33 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 15:20.45 | KotCzarny | my n900 is definitely alive |
| 15:20.52 | bencoh | jonwil: <3 |
| 15:21.29 | jonwil | I do intend to share with other N900 users though when I have something that doesn't suck so much |
| 15:21.34 | jonwil | I got more work to do first |
| 15:21.41 | bencoh | jonwil: I actually wanted to do exactly that (patch farhplan with support other direction providers) and never actually got into the work |
| 15:21.51 | bencoh | so many thanks :) |
| 15:21.54 | jonwil | What providers did you want to support exactly? |
| 15:22.00 | bencoh | google directions |
| 15:22.18 | bencoh | and bus.co.il since this is where I live |
| 15:22.39 | bencoh | (but they don't have any open API so I had to reverse their app, somehow) |
| 15:23.06 | bencoh | I actually wanted to add support for google directions to marble, but ... meh :) |
| 15:23.07 | jonwil | I had to reverse engineer the website for Translink since the open API I wanted to use got discontinued before I even wrote code |
| 15:23.14 | bencoh | never had time to do that either |
| 15:23.22 | bencoh | uhuh |
| 15:24.08 | bencoh | so you're not using qjson in the end? |
| 15:24.11 | jonwil | yes I am |
| 15:24.14 | jonwil | I am using QJSON |
| 15:24.24 | bencoh | ah, you reverse their site javascript then |
| 15:24.26 | jonwil | The web site uses QJSON internally |
| 15:24.27 | bencoh | reversed* |
| 15:24.32 | jonwil | I mean JSON |
| 15:24.38 | bencoh | yeah |
| 15:24.45 | bencoh | well, nice :) |
| 15:25.01 | jonwil | There are 3 relavent URLs that return JSON when you send them HTTP POST data |
| 15:25.35 | jonwil | one takes a string and returns candidate locations (so if I type in "Beenleigh" it will return "Beenleigh Station" and "Beenleigh State School" and things like that |
| 15:25.53 | jonwil | one takes GPS coordinates and returns a location string |
| 15:27.27 | jonwil | and the third takes a bunch of info like location, date/time, settings for what sort of services to use (bus, train, tram, ferry, school bus, whatever) and some other stuff and returns a big JSON blob with the journeys it has found |
| 15:27.54 | jonwil | One thing I need to do is to keep looking at the big JSON blob and see if there are any fields it returns that I dont currently do anything with that I should somehow use |
| 15:29.01 | jonwil | most of its is no use though (e.g. fahrplan has no concept of "stops", just the different legs of the journey so all the stuff that gives details of individual stops is no use) |
| 15:32.04 | jonwil | Right now the results page displays the from and to locations entered into the search box, the date of the search and for each possible journey it displays the type(s) of vehicles (train, bus, tram, ferry, walk) the journey uses, the number of transfers and the duration. |
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| 15:33.11 | jonwil | clicking an individual journey gives me the start and end points of the journey, the duration then for each leg of the journey, the route name (or for walking legs, the distance walked), the start stop, the start time, the end stop, the end time and the duration of that leg. |
| 15:41.44 | jonwil | the big problem I have is dealing with the fact that Translink has both a human readable name and an ID for a location so I need to find a non-hacky way (one that doesn't require all kinds of hacks and changes to the fahrplan codebasse) to handle this. |
| 15:41.59 | jonwil | I have a few things to try though that might work better than the hacks I have now |
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| 16:01.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=38758 |
| 16:01.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | dang, too late |
| 16:04.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1480878 |
| 16:10.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | sigh! http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/fahrplan/0.0.33/ 4 of 6 |
| 16:18.35 | KotCzarny | maybe just make requirement for initial vote/release |
| 16:18.45 | KotCzarny | and updates should be free |
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| 16:52.19 | timeless | So, someone pocket dialed my US Google Voice number and their butt left a message https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ofLTzFaD/ |
| 16:52.54 | timeless | Simon Hesselberg Løvald -- anyone here recognize the name? |
| 16:53.02 | timeless | i don't think I know that many people in Norway... |
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| 16:56.17 | KotCzarny | some uni teacher? |
| 16:56.51 | timeless | wonders how someone could accidentally dial a 10 digit number (well 11 if you count the `+`) |
| 16:59.15 | KotCzarny | wrong copypaste? |
| 16:59.29 | KotCzarny | someone in the club giving him fake number? |
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| 17:27.11 | KotCzarny | interesting: https://sourceforge.net/p/crengine/feature-requests/169/ |
| 17:27.19 | KotCzarny | didnt know sf went evil way |
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| 18:17.39 | totalizator | all these evil ads are enough for me |
| 18:18.32 | totalizator | like fake download banners |
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| 18:28.24 | KotCzarny | my banana is playing music amd compiling oscp package, and eats whopping 2.5W at the moment |
| 18:28.51 | KotCzarny | (thats with integrated microamp already) |
| 18:29.19 | KotCzarny | s/amd/and/ |
| 18:30.08 | xes | KotCzarny: banana? is it stable after all? |
| 18:30.22 | KotCzarny | it was stable all the time |
| 18:31.34 | totalizator | stop tempting me |
| 18:31.35 | xes | i still point at some of that orange pi pc pip p ples 2e something.. |
| 18:31.48 | KotCzarny | xes, what would you use it for? |
| 18:32.37 | xes | KotCzarny: usual connectivy mini server |
| 18:32.48 | KotCzarny | totalizator: those little allwinner boxes are pretty nicely supported by community (mainline uboot and kernel, though new chips are a bit lagging as usual) |
| 18:33.06 | KotCzarny | xes: how many drives you would want to connect to it? |
| 18:33.33 | xes | none |
| 18:33.39 | KotCzarny | o.o |
| 18:34.48 | xes | ..but i hate wait 2 months.. |
| 18:35.00 | KotCzarny | you might start with some minimal board, opi0 or something (depends greatly if you need wifi or ethernet more) |
| 18:35.07 | KotCzarny | xes, order from some local store then? |
| 18:35.24 | KotCzarny | you would pay more but should get faster |
| 18:35.56 | KotCzarny | and there are usually clueless people buying them then not knowing it's a hacker board ;) |
| 18:36.08 | KotCzarny | so you might browse local classifieds sites |
| 18:37.09 | xes | ..eh..nope. no one cares to distribute them in eu |
| 18:37.23 | KotCzarny | see 'local classifieds' part |
| 18:37.34 | KotCzarny | which country you live in ? |
| 18:38.01 | KotCzarny | and if you want .eu based boards see olimex |
| 18:38.36 | xes | i will give another look.. |
| 18:38.44 | KotCzarny | it's european company that designs and produces own boards based on those socs |
| 18:39.37 | KotCzarny | fun fact, one of the more popular 3d printers is using olimex boards as a cpu |
| 18:43.42 | KotCzarny | oh wow, i though mouse gets eaten by default in osso-term, but apparently oscp is nicely working in it |
| 18:49.03 | KotCzarny | oh, it's because of opened hwkb |
| 18:49.22 | KotCzarny | can i convince osso-xterm not to open vkb when my ncurses app is running? |
| 18:52.04 | KotCzarny | anyway, 0.9.68 upped. |
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| 20:11.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | timeless: on a numeric keypad it seems surprisingly simple |
| 20:11.25 | timeless | nods |
| 20:11.41 | timeless | https://aws.amazon.com/message/41926/ is interesting |
| 20:14.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2017-03-01 Wed 08:41:15] <DocScrutinizer05> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/28/aws_is_awol_as_s3_goes_haywire/ haha |
| 20:15.00 | enyc | but but but but but but what will happen to get maemo.org services all ipv6-enabled??? |
| 20:41.44 | xes | sincerely? |
| 20:42.12 | KotCzarny | how many ipv6 ranges are in rbl/sspam lists? |
| 20:43.24 | xes | noidea |
| 20:45.02 | enyc | KotCzarny: similar scenariou to ipv4.... emali wise, fcrdns requirement is key, e.g. gmail insists on this now |
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| 23:12.10 | xes | there is a small maintenance in progress on maemo servers. Some service may disappear for some second |
| 23:18.15 | jonwil | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=99029 |
| 23:18.55 | jonwil | Great to finally have a way to do journey planning on my N900 again without needing to call the phone number and talk to a real human (which takes time and doesn't let me search by GPS) |
| 23:26.50 | jonwil | and I think the way I handled the need to have both a human readable description and a separate internal identifier for a given location/stop/etc is quite elegant (just need to hope I found all the places where the human readable description is displayed) |
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