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| 00:23.24 | newbieAlert | HI . apt-get update does not seem to work. Ping to the same server works, but ohnly apt-get seems to have this proble=m. ANy solutions?? |
| 00:24.50 | newbieAlert | ^^ Talking about a chroot in Sailfish. |
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| 02:49.13 | Michael_a380 | Well, this put me off ..... https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95684 |
| 02:49.47 | Michael_a380 | http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/1138911528 |
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| 06:20.03 | Oksanaaa | "Cannot resolve hostname" when trying to use irreco-for-n900 |
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| 07:38.22 | Sicelo | Michael_a380: yeah that looks ugly (tmo post) |
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| 09:51.26 | parazyd | anyone with facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/NokiaN900Users/permalink/10155282546973322/ |
| 09:51.35 | parazyd | seems there's an n950 for sale? |
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| 10:54.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | get it! |
| 10:55.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | though screen is borked, a pity |
| 10:57.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | spare LCDs for N950 seem impossible to get, prolly mainly because nobody has an idea which is the right one to look for |
| 10:57.37 | merlin1991 | mine is borked too :/ |
| 10:57.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | hibge impact? |
| 10:57.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | hinge* |
| 10:58.06 | dmth|intevation | mine to, same are of the display. |
| 10:58.08 | merlin1991 | nah, black lines in the middle |
| 10:58.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's hinge usually |
| 10:58.35 | merlin1991 | ah okay |
| 10:58.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | terribly 'stupid' design |
| 11:01.39 | Sicelo | any value to them other than 'limited edition'? (N950 I mean) |
| 11:05.01 | bencoh | I guess you could try and use it as a daily driver, but ... |
| 11:05.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | OT: when behind a router with NAT, and forwarded ports = 10000..10010 plus ssh, how would this happen on the DEST device (which happens to be another router)? [WAN_LOCAL-default-D]IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=44:d9:e7:9f:1d:df:24:65:11:be:02:dc:08:00 SRC=87.118.124.35 DST=192.168.178.22 LEN=76 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=58 ID=23942 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=123 DPT=123 LEN=56 |
| 11:05.26 | bencoh | I kinda understood that some (most?) of the nemo devs were using n950 at some point |
| 11:06.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | they were the proto device for N9 |
| 11:06.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | so *some* devels got a N950 |
| 11:07.00 | bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: nat changes dest address/port for net->lan packets and source address/port for lan->net packets |
| 11:07.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | bencoh: yep, that's understood |
| 11:07.27 | bencoh | mac-related (layer2) questions aren't relevant here (they're not affected by nat but by basic routing) |
| 11:08.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | however SRC=87.118.124.35 tried to reach DST=192.168.178.22:123 which never been forwarded in the router |
| 11:08.57 | bencoh | ? |
| 11:09.26 | bencoh | there's a common pitfall with nat and "dmz"-like servers |
| 11:09.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | no DNZ |
| 11:09.40 | bencoh | local computers can't join local dmz with public IP |
| 11:09.55 | bencoh | be it dmz or single port forwarding |
| 11:09.59 | bencoh | anyway, lunch time |
| 11:10.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | port 123 never been forwarded |
| 11:10.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | oooh NTP, that might explain it |
| 11:11.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | the DEST device might run a NTP (actually I'm pretty sure it does) and thus open a NAT session from external port $whatever to own port 123, which works both directions |
| 11:14.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | ns.km33237.keymachine.de = 87.118.124.35, wonder WTF that might be |
| 11:16.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | MEH! |
| 11:16.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/56118555 |
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| 12:26.19 | Michael_a380 | That facebook link wouldn't work for me... archived ok here... http://archive.is/KBhta |
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| 12:34.09 | Michael_a380 | She put a price on if for 250US |
| 12:34.22 | Michael_a380 | *it (n950 |
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| 12:40.58 | Michael_a380 | *she said $US250 through PM |
| 12:43.12 | parazyd | think it's worth it? |
| 12:44.50 | Michael_a380 | Oksanaa: tempting? https://www.facebook.com/groups/NokiaN900Users/permalink/10155282546973322/ or http://archive.is/KBhta |
| 12:47.22 | Michael_a380 | I don't suppose anyone knows a good way to figure out "Brazil's international shipping rules"? |
| 12:47.58 | Michael_a380 | issues with battery, maybe can't do airmail. |
| 12:48.04 | Michael_a380 | ? |
| 12:49.59 | Michael_a380 | I'll stay away from it, since I'm a noob. |
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| 19:21.30 | freemangordon | guys, does anybody have a clue who creates /home/user/MyDocs/.camera folder?!? it is recreated after a reboot even if I delete it by hand |
| 19:25.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | hi freemangordon! wb! :-) |
| 19:26.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, it's known to get recreated. Don't ask me by whom exactly, I'd *guess* by cameraui |
| 19:27.26 | freemangordon | but, it is recreated only on my GFs device, I don't event have such dir on mine |
| 19:28.09 | freemangordon | a mistery |
| 19:29.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway you should be able to determine who recreates it by studying old (maybe Nokia internal, yeah sorry, I know) tickets, since IIRC it once had an upper/lower case issue and a owner+permissions issue too which borked stuff as soon as you had a non-FAT filesystem |
| 19:30.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | (mystery) check storage location settings. I *guess* it might not get recreated when you choose to store photos on uSD card |
| 19:30.41 | freemangordon | it is still recreated |
| 19:31.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | weird. So which version does your GF run? |
| 19:31.14 | freemangordon | BTW, the problem is that in file manager the "Camera" folder is empty, while there are tons of pictures in DCIM |
| 19:31.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, terrible mess |
| 19:31.34 | freemangordon | version of what? camera-ui2? |
| 19:31.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | system |
| 19:32.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | how's that crap called? XDG? |
| 19:33.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | never really understoof what exactly it is and how it works, but it's related to .camera showing as Camera |
| 19:33.37 | freemangordon | the same cssu-thumb as on my device |
| 19:33.43 | freemangordon | re XDG - me neither |
| 19:34.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/xdg-utils/ |
| 19:34.36 | freemangordon | the only related thing I can think of is that she has nokia-panorama installed |
| 19:34.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | don't get me wrong, I wouldn't dare to suggest *reading* that stuff |
| 19:34.51 | freemangordon | :) |
| 19:35.00 | freemangordon | I won;t |
| 19:35.38 | freemangordon | oh, wait, those xdg-utils stuff is unrelated iiuc |
| 19:35.49 | freemangordon | it is about MIME types etc |
| 19:36.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | all I know is it gets recreated during boot, and it once had an issue that it iirc been owned by root and 744 and was Uppercase, while the process writing (or trying to write) was "user" and expected a lowercase dirname - or vice versa |
| 19:36.43 | Maxdamantus | If it's created by camera-ui, presumably you could remove it then killall camera-ui then see if it's recreated. |
| 19:38.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's one weirdly named (closed blob?) 'job' to restore factory settings or somesuch, which might be related |
| 19:39.38 | Pali | freemangordon: /usr/sbin/osso-mmc-mount.sh |
| 19:39.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((nokia-panorama)) never heard of. Maybe rename it so it can't get started during boottime? |
| 19:39.50 | Pali | # create some special directories for user's partition |
| 19:40.00 | Pali | mkdir -p "$NOKIA_CAMERA_DIR" |
| 19:40.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | HAH! Pali to the rescue |
| 19:40.11 | Pali | mkdir -p $MP/$d |
| 19:40.18 | Pali | for d in ... .camera ... |
| 19:41.18 | Pali | I have rootfs_RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_MR0.squashfs conerted from ubifs FIASCO rootfs image |
| 19:41.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: did you cheat and simply use grep, or did you know off top of your head? ;-D |
| 19:41.35 | Pali | so I can instantly loop-mount it on laptop and run grep on it |
| 19:41.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-> |
| 19:42.04 | Pali | it is the fastest way how to do it... |
| 19:42.08 | Pali | less then 30s |
| 19:43.48 | freemangordon | Pali: but, why it is not recreated on my device then? |
| 19:44.02 | freemangordon | also, who sets NOKIA_CAMERA_DIR |
| 19:44.08 | freemangordon | ke-recv? |
| 19:44.26 | Pali | source "$USERDIRS" |
| 19:44.33 | Pali | USERDIRS="/home/user/.config/user-dirs.dirs" |
| 19:44.43 | freemangordon | ah |
| 19:45.05 | Pali | see content of that script |
| 19:45.14 | Pali | that mkdir is called after some mmc-mount command |
| 19:46.01 | Pali | look at that shit |
| 19:46.20 | Pali | when mounting /media/mmc1 it creates camera dir |
| 19:46.23 | freemangordon | Pali: this is it, my GFs device is missng that script |
| 19:46.35 | Pali | so probably one device has uSD card and one not? |
| 19:46.45 | freemangordon | both have |
| 19:47.46 | freemangordon | seems somehow it got missing |
| 19:48.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/55967950 http://paste.opensuse.org/61767136 |
| 19:49.08 | freemangordon | Pali: thanks a lot |
| 19:49.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-)) |
| 19:55.14 | Pali | anyway, now I see that dosfsck in stock maemo has special patches! |
| 19:55.25 | Pali | which are not in cssu, because in cssu is dosfsck from upstream |
| 19:55.36 | freemangordon | do we need those? |
| 19:55.47 | Pali | there is e.g. special patch for time limited check |
| 19:55.55 | Pali | fprintf(stderr," -m Maemo addition: MBs to spare in the system under high threshold (default 0)\n"); |
| 19:55.55 | freemangordon | hmm |
| 19:55.59 | Pali | fprintf(stderr," -T secs Maemo addition: no-op time limited check for pointed duration\n"); |
| 19:56.47 | Pali | http://deriv.debian.net/Maemo/patches/d/dosfstools/ |
| 19:56.59 | Pali | here are Maemo patches: http://deriv.debian.net/Maemo/patches/d/dosfstools/dosfstools_3.0.1-1_dosfstools_3.0.1-1maemo6+0m5.debian.patch |
| 19:57.57 | Pali | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:58.09 | freemangordon | Pali: copying user-dirs.dirs from my device fixed it |
| 19:58.14 | Pali | ok |
| 19:59.09 | freemangordon | I guess some of those patches are already upstream |
| 20:00.47 | freemangordon | wtf? why is osso-laog part of dosfsck?!? |
| 20:01.23 | Pali | those are maemo specified patches |
| 20:01.28 | freemangordon | of, and osso-mem |
| 20:01.33 | Pali | I doubt they are part of upstream... |
| 20:01.38 | freemangordon | ah, I see |
| 20:01.53 | Pali | diff is between debian and maemo version |
| 20:02.03 | Pali | so debian related patches are not shown |
| 20:05.41 | freemangordon | Pali: anyway, GF says thanks to you, /me is going afk :) |
| 20:06.03 | Sicelo | why isn't she using iPhone :) |
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| 20:10.15 | freemangordon | Sicelo: she replaced n950 for n900 ;) |
| 20:10.38 | Sicelo | wut! |
| 20:11.07 | freemangordon | also, she wouldn't be my GF if she is using iPhone |
| 20:11.12 | freemangordon | anyway, I am afk |
| 20:11.18 | Sicelo | \o |
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