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| 01:38.46 | Juesto | freemangordon: i dont really like forking on github :p |
| 01:40.38 | Juesto | apologies for the inactivity, |
| 01:42.24 | Juesto | NeKit: read the pastebin i pasted today |
| 01:43.18 | Juesto | freemangordon: im not completely familiar with debian packaging.. and perhaps i could make a git .patch ? |
| 01:44.22 | Juesto | is having some personal crisis.... |
| 01:48.46 | Maxdamantus | What's wrong with forking on github? |
| 01:49.13 | Maxdamantus | You can fork after you've done all the work. |
| 01:49.55 | Maxdamantus | then just add your fork as a remote to the local repository you were working in, push to it, create a pull request. |
| 01:50.29 | Maxdamantus | then after the changes are merged you can remove your fork from github. |
| 01:57.08 | Juesto | its just a mess for me |
| 01:57.23 | Juesto | Because locally it means switching repositories Maxdamantus |
| 01:57.46 | Juesto | or im missing something |
| 02:47.05 | Maxdamantus | Switching repositories? |
| 02:47.14 | Maxdamantus | No, you clone the original repository. |
| 02:47.42 | Maxdamantus | so now you have your own copy, on your computer .. you write your code there. |
| 02:48.17 | Maxdamantus | then you add your github repository as another remote, so you have remotes/origin as the original repository and remotes/juesto as your own one. |
| 02:48.40 | Maxdamantus | those are just references to other repositories from the repository on your computer. |
| 02:49.35 | Maxdamantus | if you have permission, you can push to them (you'll probably be able to push to your own github repository ("juesto"), no the original ("origin")) |
| 02:50.09 | Maxdamantus | s/\<no\>/not/ |
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| 02:51.08 | Maxdamantus | git remote add juesto git@github.com:juesto/some-maemo-project |
| 02:51.47 | Maxdamantus | git push juesto HEAD:implement-some-feature |
| 02:52.21 | Maxdamantus | then you can make a pull request for the "implement-some-feature" branch on your github repository. |
| 03:14.40 | Juesto | ah thank you |
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| 04:10.31 | Juesto | and im more a tortoisegit user than git cli |
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| 04:29.12 | Maxdamantus | Presumably you can do it in tortoisegit too. |
| 04:29.50 | Maxdamantus | just uses git, and gitk/tig for searching through things. |
| 04:30.41 | Juesto | yes i know |
| 04:30.44 | Juesto | but on linux? |
| 04:30.58 | Juesto | i do not have tgit |
| 04:31.05 | Juesto | hmm gitk... |
| 04:32.56 | Maxdamantus | tig, not tigit |
| 04:33.37 | Maxdamantus | gitk is included with the git source code, so is often installed at the same time as git. |
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| 04:34.39 | Maxdamantus | gitk refers to some git-gui that I think lets you commit/push/fetch etc, but I've never used it. |
| 04:35.27 | Juesto | okay |
| 04:39.43 | Juesto | ah no clue, will look at it later |
| 04:39.49 | Juesto | thanks |
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| 13:09.33 | xes | can we still call it "router"? https://omnia.turris.cz/en/ |
| 13:11.13 | KotCzarny | sure, it routes packets around |
| 13:11.47 | KotCzarny | 340eur is a bit steep though |
| 13:12.30 | xes | KotCzarny: yes..in fact it routes :) |
| 13:12.47 | KotCzarny | if it was ~100eur i would buy it in an eye blink |
| 13:13.01 | KotCzarny | for now i've settled for banana pi r1 |
| 13:13.50 | KotCzarny | armada 385 is very nice though |
| 13:16.26 | inz | If only there was a way to get them properly hooked up to ADSL/VDSL line (i.e. without another box) |
| 13:16.32 | xes | KotCzarny: well, you can live very well also with a BtHomeHub 5a + openwrt... but that turris is really a monster |
| 13:16.43 | KotCzarny | inz: mini-pcie adsl modem? usb? |
| 13:16.49 | xes | inz: there is an sfp-vdsl adapter |
| 13:16.55 | KotCzarny | or that. |
| 13:18.51 | inz | KotCzarny, last I looked for USB ones, I failed. Maybe it was just me =) Didn't realize turris had mPCIe |
| 13:20.13 | KotCzarny | inz: 3 of them |
| 13:21.46 | bencoh | looks cute |
| 13:21.51 | bencoh | (the router) |
| 13:23.40 | bencoh | 15:16 < xes> inz: there is an sfp-vdsl adapter |
| 13:23.53 | bencoh | oh? |
| 13:25.47 | bencoh | ohwell, $100 for a vdsl sfp |
| 13:43.03 | parazyd | KotCzarny: keep in mind the bpi r1 has only one ethernet controller |
| 13:43.11 | KotCzarny | i know |
| 13:43.30 | parazyd | and the wifi drops sometimes |
| 13:43.33 | KotCzarny | i've added battery backup for a bit more stable work |
| 13:43.37 | parazyd | it's the 8192cu realtek crap |
| 13:43.37 | KotCzarny | and dont use wifi |
| 13:43.50 | buZz | xes: eh, no |
| 13:43.53 | buZz | thats not a router :P |
| 13:43.58 | KotCzarny | whole board is the cheapest/lowest you can get |
| 13:44.00 | buZz | it only has a single ethernet device |
| 13:44.10 | buZz | (and a switch between it) |
| 13:44.13 | KotCzarny | buzz: you can add more via sfp/minipcie |
| 13:44.16 | buZz | sure |
| 13:44.21 | buZz | -as is- its not a router |
| 13:44.23 | buZz | or not a good one |
| 13:44.24 | parazyd | ^^ |
| 13:44.27 | bencoh | buZz: not exactly no |
| 13:44.54 | buZz | holy fuckstick @ price |
| 13:45.10 | buZz | https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-lite/ <-- real router |
| 13:45.13 | buZz | ~4x cheaper |
| 13:45.15 | bencoh | it has a ethernet switching processing unit |
| 13:45.21 | Juesto | wow |
| 13:45.27 | Juesto | hey, how's progress btw |
| 13:45.27 | buZz | bencoh: you ever used a marvell? |
| 13:45.34 | buZz | bencoh: they're shite |
| 13:45.37 | Juesto | has took a break |
| 13:45.48 | bencoh | buZz: yeah, they're not "shit" |
| 13:45.54 | buZz | :) ok |
| 13:45.57 | parazyd | but can it run devuan? :p |
| 13:46.00 | KotCzarny | broken site, doesnt work without js :P |
| 13:46.01 | buZz | they are not THE shit |
| 13:46.02 | buZz | :P |
| 13:46.02 | bencoh | parazyd: probably ;p |
| 13:46.16 | bencoh | buZz: they've had issues like pretty much every chip vendor |
| 13:46.48 | buZz | yeah, as in near no docs, poor performance vs competing chips, and basically be a laughing stock |
| 13:46.54 | bencoh | I'm currently working fulltime on imx(freescale)-based boards, while they're the most open you can get these days, they have their pile of issues as well |
| 13:46.55 | buZz | but beside that i guess its fine |
| 13:47.00 | bencoh | haha |
| 13:47.09 | buZz | ^_^ |
| 13:48.03 | buZz | throws some dockstars into the fire |
| 13:48.21 | bencoh | and actually they do have a nice (almost-)reference design for network applications and as such is used in quite a few network appliances |
| 13:48.37 | bencoh | especially regarding the thing your ranted about (the hw ethernet switch) |
| 13:48.42 | buZz | racism gets used a lot aswell, still dont think its viable :P |
| 13:49.02 | bencoh | and so is java, riight ;p |
| 13:49.06 | buZz | bencoh: broadcom is also used a lot in networking |
| 13:49.09 | buZz | doesnt mean its any good |
| 13:49.27 | bencoh | buZz: blobs aside, they're not that bad |
| 13:49.37 | buZz | lol |
| 13:49.44 | buZz | i'm not sure how they could be any worse :P |
| 13:49.56 | bencoh | believe me they could |
| 13:51.18 | Juesto | some help..? |
| 13:51.24 | bencoh | what about? |
| 13:51.52 | Juesto | not sure, i... |
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| 13:59.33 | Juesto | hi Oksanaa :) |
| 14:05.27 | Oksanaa | Hello |
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| 14:06.39 | Juesto | sighs |
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| 14:25.41 | Juesto | i guess i've burned out and i want someone to verify |
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| 15:15.28 | buZz | hugs Juesto |
| 15:15.49 | buZz | did you post some update to that forumlink? |
| 15:16.56 | Juesto | not really |
| 15:17.04 | Juesto | i dont even have a tmo acc buZz |
| 15:17.21 | buZz | i dont think i do either |
| 15:17.29 | buZz | its probably easy to make one :P |
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| 15:24.50 | bencoh | it should be |
| 15:27.01 | Juesto | it is |
| 15:27.03 | Juesto | lol |
| 15:27.07 | Juesto | anyways |
| 15:45.08 | Juesto | how do i link tmo and maemo.org ? |
| 15:49.32 | Juesto | hey |
| 15:50.21 | Juesto | anyone? |
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| 15:52.39 | Juesto | why maemo.org isnt very inutive |
| 15:52.45 | Juesto | like its missing things |
| 15:52.47 | Juesto | xes ? |
| 16:05.11 | Juesto | ??? |
| 16:08.01 | bencoh | which things are you referring to? |
| 16:10.40 | Juesto | bencoh: missing links, such as loggoing out from maemo.org, editing the profile, etc |
| 16:23.33 | Juesto | buZz: posted |
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| 16:30.31 | Juesto | freemangordon: hildon is broken, missing configure |
| 16:31.32 | bencoh | if you're talking about sources from a git repository (as opposed to a dist tarball) then it's "normal" and you're suppose to either generate it using autotools |
| 16:31.42 | bencoh | or build using dpkg-buildpackage assuming there is a debian/ |
| 16:31.53 | Juesto | bencoh: It fails to generate it |
| 16:32.14 | bencoh | missing autoconf/automake/libtool/whatever maybe> |
| 16:32.15 | bencoh | ? |
| 16:32.41 | Juesto | there's missing rules for some packages |
| 16:33.00 | Juesto | No rule to make target 'distclean' bencoh |
| 16:33.06 | bencoh | ah, right |
| 16:33.30 | bencoh | that's silly, it just tries doing distclean before generating the whole autotools environment |
| 16:33.38 | bencoh | but can't make distclean since there is no makefile yet |
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| 16:37.28 | buZz | Juesto: awesome!!! |
| 16:43.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((<buZz> https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-lite/ <-- real router)) full ack |
| 16:43.57 | buZz | totes |
| 16:44.12 | Juesto | .... |
| 16:45.05 | buZz | hmhm |
| 16:45.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | ERpro here |
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| 16:47.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | of course it has proprietary blobs for the proprietary hw turbo that handles roting on a mere hw level to achieve 2 million packets per second |
| 16:48.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-pro/ |
| 16:50.58 | warfare | The Octeon also does IPSec and pppoe encaps in hardware. Quite a nice beast for the price. |
| 16:52.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | octeon is the CPU of ERpro? |
| 16:53.13 | warfare | yes. It's a mips core with all the packet forwarding/offloading stuff. |
| 16:53.56 | warfare | Also found in Junipers SRX100 where they disabled all the nice hw offloading. |
| 16:54.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | aah 'offloading' was the right term |
| 16:55.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | not "proprietary hw turbo" |
| 16:56.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, it's obviously not open hardware afaict. Anyway runs a pretty 'normal' linux aiui |
| 16:57.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | duh! why, Juniper, WHY? |
| 16:58.16 | warfare | $reasons. Probably because then the "lowend" device would have been too fast. |
| 16:58.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, offloading of course is less versatile regarding what you can filter etc |
| 17:01.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | depends on particular implementation though. Also the option to only offload some but not all packets |
| 17:02.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: any info on details how Octeon implemented offloading? FPGA or something more hardwired? |
| 17:06.56 | warfare | DocScrutinizer05: No idea, probably hardwired |
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| 17:09.26 | Juesto | also seems that clockd-dbg requires libiphb0 0.0.41 but the installed one is .17 |
| 17:09.35 | Juesto | 0.0.17 |
| 17:10.01 | Juesto | jeez |
| 17:10.08 | Juesto | now im stuck with alarmd |
| 17:10.17 | Juesto | unable to uninstall alarmd-dbg |
| 17:10.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: do you know where Ubiqiti provides the sourcecode? and which distro it is based on? |
| 17:11.22 | Juesto | pali: i broke my packaging :/ |
| 17:11.51 | Pali | hm? |
| 17:11.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | nm, https://www.ubnt.com/download/edgemax/edgerouter-pro |
| 17:13.10 | Juesto | unable to remove alarmd |
| 17:13.14 | Juesto | alarmd-dbg |
| 17:13.21 | Juesto | but now i cant install alarmd either |
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| 17:13.37 | Pali | how unable? |
| 17:14.07 | xes | ubiquity... blobs.. "Not fixed by Vendor, the bug is a feature" https://packetstormsecurity.com/files/138928/Ubiquiti-UniFi-AP-AC-Lite-5.2.7-Improper-Access-Control.html |
| 17:14.10 | Juesto | Would you like to connect to vnc? |
| 17:14.21 | Pali | no vnc here |
| 17:14.28 | Juesto | :( |
| 17:15.48 | Pali | I do not understand how you cannot uninstall it? |
| 17:15.57 | Pali | you broke dpkg database? or what? |
| 17:17.14 | Juesto | ugh |
| 17:17.49 | KotCzarny | he is learning de*uan apparently |
| 17:17.53 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 17:19.14 | Pali | dpkg --remove or dpkg --purge must work |
| 17:19.25 | Pali | if not some --force-help should help |
| 17:19.45 | Pali | and if still not, then dpkg database is broken and you should reinstall system |
| 17:27.23 | Juesto | its still inconsistent |
| 17:27.28 | Juesto | and reinstalling is worse, kind of |
| 17:36.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | gawd! https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX-Updates-Blog/EdgeMAX-EdgeRouter-software-release-v1-9-1/ba-p/1766160 I should immediately update |
| 17:40.20 | Juesto | Pali: i guess i should create user 'user' and group 'users' |
| 17:40.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | xes: I don't completely understand the issue, particularly did Ubiquiti refuse to fix that vulnerability? |
| 17:42.21 | Juesto | its getting worse |
| 17:42.24 | Juesto | ughhh |
| 17:47.58 | Juesto | ... |
| 17:49.07 | Juesto | dsmesock_connect: no such file or directlry |
| 17:49.11 | Juesto | directory* |
| 17:49.18 | Juesto | when trying to start alarmd service pali |
| 17:49.54 | Pali | so... is dsme running? |
| 17:51.53 | Juesto | theres no dsme service |
| 17:51.55 | Juesto | ugh |
| 17:52.24 | Juesto | it cant start |
| 17:52.33 | Juesto | the dbus service |
| 17:54.15 | Juesto | you're at work or something? |
| 17:54.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | BBL - with some luck :-) |
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| 17:57.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ |
| 17:57.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | 1.9.1 |
| 17:59.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/99962341 |
| 18:01.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | AAAAND firefox shows EdgeMAX surface again, incl all fancy gadgets |
| 18:01.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | nukes chrome |
| 18:03.52 | Juesto | lol |
| 18:07.03 | Juesto | Pali: https://defuse.ca/b/vskcr2NU |
| 18:09.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | dsmesock_connect: No such file or directory --- subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1 |
| 18:10.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | I have a strong suspicion you got no dsme installed and running ;-) |
| 18:11.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | append "||:" to end of a few pre-removal lines that may fail |
| 18:14.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | Juesto: ^^^ |
| 18:15.16 | Juesto | DocScrutinizer05: dsmetools -d gives the same sock connect error |
| 18:15.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | of course |
| 18:15.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's the point |
| 18:16.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/90036960 |
| 18:19.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | fsckng dsmetool has no means to *list* the monitored daemons/processes it started |
| 18:20.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | but I can bet my ass on >>user 1083 0.0 0.6 4004 1508 ? Ss Jan17 0:02 /usr/sbin/alarmd<< being started via dsme |
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| 18:22.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | cat /etc/init.d/alarmd |
| 18:22.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | $DSMETOOL -U user -G users -f "$DAEMON $DAEMON_OPTS" |
| 18:23.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | elif [ "$USE_DSMETOOL" = "no" ]; then ... else ^^^ |
| 18:24.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | so when you don't have DSME installed, you should set $USE_DSMETOOL" = "no", and if the pre-removal file doesn't obey that then that's clearly a bug |
| 18:26.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: Pali: ^^^ |
| 18:27.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | or PEBCAK when $USE_DSMETOOL = "no" but user failed to run apt-get in an environment where it actually is visible |
| 18:27.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 18:29.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | Juesto: try: USE_DSMETOOL="no" dpkg -i alarmd_*.deb |
| 18:30.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | also could you please provide the pre-removal script in pastebin? |
| 18:30.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | or the complete *.deb |
| 18:31.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | so I could check |
| 18:33.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | or maybe you first want to check what's sttaus of your dsme* install |
| 18:33.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | don't know if you already installed it and whether it's supposed to be running/working |
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| 18:35.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe starting at >>dsmetools -d gives the same sock connect error<< is actually a good vector to tackle it |
| 18:36.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | no idea how >>/sbin/dsme -p /usr/lib/dsme/libstartup.so<< is supposed to be started, when and by what |
| 18:38.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ls -l /etc/event.d/dsm* |
| 18:41.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | LOL /etc/event.d/dsme-thermal |
| 18:42.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/24623422 for your convenience |
| 18:47.16 | Juesto | brb |
| 18:49.08 | Juesto | can vnc DocScrutinizer05 ? |
| 18:50.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry? |
| 18:50.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | VNC on maemo somewhat works, yes |
| 18:50.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | both directions afaik |
| 18:51.22 | Juesto | juesto.pw:9600 |
| 18:52.06 | Juesto | DocScrutinizer05: i prefer that someone connects to check it out |
| 18:52.47 | Juesto | i'll try the USE_DSMETOOL=no |
| 18:53.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, I don't think I can log in to _your_ device |
| 18:54.10 | Juesto | worked but /etc/osso-af-init/af-defines.sh is not readable |
| 18:54.15 | Juesto | from the alarmd.wrapper |
| 18:54.28 | Juesto | why |
| 18:54.31 | Juesto | :/ |
| 18:54.33 | Juesto | ugh |
| 18:55.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | ls -l /etc/osso-af-init/af-defines.sh |
| 18:55.55 | Juesto | everything there has dpkg.new extension |
| 18:56.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm |
| 18:56.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | nasty |
| 18:56.21 | Juesto | .dpkg-new * |
| 18:56.28 | Juesto | all .sh |
| 18:57.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | when there's no similar file without that extensuion, rename the *.dpkg-new to * |
| 18:57.10 | Juesto | why you dont/cant connect to my vm over vnc? |
| 18:57.48 | Juesto | LOL, dsme powered off my system due to init 8 |
| 18:58.20 | Juesto | init stuck |
| 18:59.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | Juesto: sorry, a few reasons: no time and vnc to much overhead to config/use. Then I also think I would need way more info than what you provided, at least I *really* hope so, since otherwise you opened up your system to crackers wide and far |
| 18:59.24 | Juesto | yes ovbiously i'll pm the password |
| 18:59.32 | Juesto | it's password protected |
| 18:59.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | plus I have no idea what this whole thing is all about |
| 18:59.40 | Juesto | and thats why it has another port |
| 18:59.42 | Juesto | and its just a vm |
| 18:59.52 | Juesto | vmware has vnc capacity |
| 19:00.13 | Juesto | sorry for being vague :/ |
| 19:00.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | please ping the experts about it. I got no clue |
| 19:00.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm just throwing around a few generic rants and LOLs |
| 19:01.05 | Juesto | you seem to have a certain clue ;) |
| 19:01.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | ps aux | grep dsme |
| 19:01.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | start dsme |
| 19:02.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | check the dsme init/event files |
| 19:02.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/24623422 don't know if they exist in this or another form on your system. AIUI you try to move from upstart to sth else |
| 19:04.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | the simple advice is: make sure dsme is running before you try to make alarmd running |
| 19:05.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry afk |
| 19:06.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | again: check http://paste.opensuse.org/24623422;; ps aux|grep dsme; start dsme; |
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| 19:07.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | and ask Pali and/or freemangordon |
| 19:07.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | I lost track what you're actually doing |
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| 19:08.01 | Juesto | Ugh |
| 19:08.11 | Juesto | and they're both afk iirc, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 19:08.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | so am I, sorry |
| 19:15.27 | Juesto | sighs |
| 19:31.57 | Wizzup | freemangordon: poke |
| 19:32.14 | Wizzup | I'm about to create a 'group' on git.devuan.org (we have to host the repos there to (auto) build) |
| 19:32.21 | Wizzup | Wondering about the name |
| 19:32.26 | Wizzup | 'maemo' or 'freemantle' or ? |
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| 19:35.59 | Wizzup | KotCzarny: ^^^ |
| 19:36.09 | Wizzup | I guess 'maemo' is not a proper name |
| 19:37.09 | Wizzup | maybe 'fremantle' is OK |
| 19:40.56 | Wizzup | Juesto: got notes? |
| 19:41.11 | Juesto | Wizzup: i guess....? |
| 19:41.17 | Juesto | Wizzup: linked them already :| |
| 19:41.19 | Juesto | and posted on tmo |
| 19:41.37 | Juesto | and advanced a little bit more but now stuck terribly |
| 19:42.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | Wizzup: maemo is trademark-protected, owned by HiFo or whatever the new entity is called. Fremantle is maemo5 specific and afaik free |
| 19:43.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | considering that even same device (N8x0) seen TWO codename releases (Csomething and Diablo) maybe fremantle is a tad narrow when you want to port to other devices? |
| 19:44.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | how about maemo5 |
| 19:44.30 | Wizzup | OK |
| 19:44.37 | Wizzup | DocScrutinizer05: I used 'fremantle' |
| 19:47.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | wonders if fremantle really meets the piurpose/content, when in fact you want to change a lot of core system services even up to initsystem |
| 19:48.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | when otoh the purpose is to port fremantle as verbatim as possible to devuan, fremantle is prolly the right name |
| 19:48.54 | KotCzarny | hmm, frEEmantle? ;) |
| 19:49.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | no!!!! |
| 19:49.18 | KotCzarny | openmaemo? |
| 19:50.17 | Wizzup | I thought freemantle already meant something |
| 19:50.21 | KotCzarny | wizzup, is fremantle trademarked by m$ ? |
| 19:50.21 | Wizzup | that's why I didn't do it |
| 19:50.25 | Juesto | lol |
| 19:50.28 | Juesto | freemantle |
| 19:50.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemantgle meant "I'm a moron" |
| 19:51.20 | Juesto | wtf |
| 19:51.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | aka looser [SIC] |
| 19:51.33 | KotCzarny | and isnt maemo trademark transferred to maemo community? |
| 19:51.37 | KotCzarny | while fremantle isnt? |
| 19:52.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~hifo |
| 19:53.20 | KotCzarny | http://maemo.org/legal/terms_of_use/trademarks/ |
| 19:55.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | so? |
| 19:56.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | thanks anyway for adding precision to what I already stated |
| 19:57.17 | Juesto | oh well |
| 19:57.52 | Juesto | Wizzup: can help a bit with repos or its up to fmg and pal i ? |
| 19:58.04 | Juesto | i mean, im having a bit of issues :( |
| 19:58.09 | Juesto | feels retarded |
| 19:58.48 | Pali | KotCzarny: fremantle is name of wind |
| 19:58.59 | Wizzup | what repos |
| 19:58.59 | KotCzarny | pali: i know |
| 19:59.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | like all Nokia Maemo codenames |
| 19:59.16 | Pali | yes... |
| 19:59.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | Chinook, now I recall |
| 20:01.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Codenames |
| 20:02.45 | Juesto | Pali: hey there, so you cant connect to vnc now? :( |
| 20:03.07 | Pali | sorry, but I do not have time |
| 20:03.26 | Pali | I'm not vnc support person |
| 20:04.25 | Juesto | sighs |
| 20:07.47 | Wizzup | Juesto: I am building the packages as we speak |
| 20:07.57 | Wizzup | I am hope that I can push some of this to automated devuan builds |
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| 20:08.06 | Wizzup | but I don't want to abort now to help you debug something I am also doing |
| 20:08.24 | Juesto | Okay |
| 20:08.41 | Juesto | what are you building exactly Wizzup ? |
| 20:09.52 | Wizzup | https://github.com/fremantle-gtk2/hildon-desktop |
| 20:09.55 | Wizzup | and everything that it needs |
| 20:15.06 | Wizzup | freemangordon: from what debian/ubuntu did you try to build clutter (and others) |
| 20:15.07 | Wizzup | jessie? |
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| 20:20.05 | Juesto | yes jessie dvuan |
| 20:20.08 | Juesto | idk |
| 20:20.24 | Juesto | Wizzup: i am having issues with some things from there |
| 20:23.45 | Wizzup | Juesto: did you manage to compile clutter |
| 20:25.08 | NeKit | isn't clutter present in Devuan already? |
| 20:25.28 | Juesto | i did packaging thing |
| 20:25.46 | Juesto | i was able to pack and install almost everything Wizzup |
| 20:31.43 | Wizzup | well, maybe I can just take clutter-1.0 |
| 20:31.45 | Wizzup | let me try then |
| 20:34.59 | Wizzup | Juesto: so what clutter did you install? |
| 20:35.10 | Wizzup | Juesto: I can't help if you don't say what issues you run into :) |
| 20:35.17 | Wizzup | Juesto: jessie only has libclutter-1.0 |
| 20:36.04 | Juesto | Clutter? |
| 20:36.12 | Juesto | i installed devuan jessie clutter |
| 20:36.20 | Wizzup | That is libclutter-1.0? |
| 20:36.46 | Wizzup | libmatchbox2 seems to want clutter 0.8 specifically. |
| 20:36.54 | Wizzup | Which, I think, is not in debian. |
| 20:38.29 | Juesto | Wizzup: I have working libmatchbox2 |
| 20:41.12 | Wizzup | Juesto: ok, but where did you get clutter 0.8 from |
| 20:41.29 | Juesto | im on devuan jessie |
| 20:41.39 | Juesto | and i was able to build libmatchbox2 |
| 20:41.49 | Wizzup | I am also on jessie. |
| 20:42.06 | Wizzup | libmatchbox requires clutter-0.8 as package. Are you using dpkg-buildpackage? Or just automake+make |
| 20:42.27 | Juesto | buildpackage |
| 20:44.35 | Wizzup | Juesto: /usr/bin/install: will not overwrite just-created â/home/merlijn/fremantle/clutter_0_8/debian/tmp//usr/include/clutter-0.8/clutter/clutter-version.hâ with âclutter-version.hâ |
| 20:44.39 | Wizzup | you didn't get that? |
| 20:46.49 | Juesto | not sure |
| 20:48.17 | Juesto | it just builds correctly Wizzup |
| 20:48.25 | Wizzup | Juesto: are you building https://github.com/fremantle-gtk2/libmatchbox2 or the one from community-cssu |
| 20:48.40 | Juesto | the former |
| 20:48.43 | Juesto | not the cssu |
| 20:48.56 | Wizzup | OK |
| 20:49.07 | Wizzup | so, when I try to build that, I get this: |
| 20:49.22 | Juesto | Wizzup: all the packages i cloned are from fremantle-gtk2 |
| 20:49.26 | Wizzup | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:49.27 | Wizzup | dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libclutter-0.8-dev (>> 0.8.2-0maemo56) |
| 20:49.37 | Wizzup | so libclutter-0.8-dev needs to be installed |
| 20:50.45 | Wizzup | so then I am trying to build https://github.com/community-ssu/clutter_0_8 |
| 20:50.58 | Wizzup | Juesto: I mostly want to know, did you build this ^^^\ |
| 20:51.04 | Wizzup | or did you just pull it from some maemo repos |
| 20:51.13 | Juesto | Wizzup: no, i did not do anything with that |
| 20:51.21 | Wizzup | that=repo I linked? |
| 20:51.30 | Wizzup | Juesto: so where did you get clutter-0.8 from |
| 20:51.39 | Juesto | i do not have any clutter 0.8 |
| 20:51.43 | Juesto | i just can compile |
| 20:51.46 | Juesto | build* |
| 20:51.51 | Juesto | wanna review it yourself? |
| 20:51.58 | Wizzup | I don't want to log in |
| 20:52.10 | Juesto | what do you mean |
| 20:52.11 | Wizzup | How do you build libmatchbox without clutter-0.8 |
| 20:52.26 | Juesto | :| |
| 20:52.51 | Wizzup | Juesto: I mean, did you take notes? |
| 20:53.03 | Juesto | Yes but not fully |
| 20:53.14 | Juesto | ffs |
| 20:53.26 | Wizzup | Juesto: so what I am trying to do, to make it clear: |
| 20:53.54 | Wizzup | I am trying to take all the relevant repos, see what needs to be fixed up in the debian/ directories, upload them here: https://git.devuan.org/fremantle |
| 20:54.00 | Juesto | What i did is: clone fremantle-gtk2 and then start buildpackage |
| 20:54.19 | Juesto | only that |
| 20:54.27 | Juesto | and i have about 90% done |
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| 20:54.47 | Wizzup | Juesto: did you keep the nokia/maemo repos added? |
| 20:54.52 | Wizzup | Maybe it just pulled clutter from there |
| 20:55.01 | Wizzup | to be honest I think we should use clutter 1.0 regardless |
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| 20:55.05 | Juesto | no |
| 20:55.11 | Juesto | i do not have any nokia maemo repos |
| 20:55.18 | Wizzup | > |
| 20:55.23 | Wizzup | > Installed l10n noarch deps from fremantle-ssu-mr0 nokia maemo repo mirror (thanks freemangordon) |
| 20:55.28 | Wizzup | so that's ... installed how? |
| 20:55.31 | Juesto | NOT via apt |
| 20:55.35 | Juesto | the debs |
| 20:55.42 | Wizzup | so dpkg -i |
| 20:55.43 | Wizzup | ack |
| 20:55.54 | Juesto | a set of them |
| 20:56.01 | Juesto | not all the l10n |
| 20:56.29 | Wizzup | OK |
| 20:56.34 | Wizzup | I'll go for a simple package first, and get it automatically builtr |
| 20:56.38 | Wizzup | s/builtr/built/ |
| 20:57.49 | Juesto | i got quite a few of simple packages built already :) |
| 20:59.25 | Juesto | shrugs |
| 21:34.51 | Juesto | one more thing Wizzup, you have to build the gtk2 branch if its available |
| 21:34.56 | Juesto | thats the case with libmatchbox2 |
| 21:34.58 | Juesto | likely |
| 21:35.23 | Juesto | yes, i switched to upstream-gtk2 |
| 21:35.38 | Juesto | forgot to mention |
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| 22:09.30 | Wizzup | Juesto: thanks |
| 22:12.14 | Juesto | Wizzup: FMG told me everything already, please review err jan 29 |
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| 22:41.35 | Juesto | Wizzup: alarmd, clockd, dsme are complex ones |
| 22:41.55 | Juesto | especially the former which requires user "user" to exist |
| 22:42.00 | Juesto | i am stuck with alarmd |
| 22:44.43 | Oksanaa | Well, create user "user", if possible? |
| 22:48.42 | Juesto | Yes i did, now i am stuck badly with dsme and some other thing not working oksanaa |
| 22:49.10 | Juesto | Would you like to look at it over vnc Oksanaa ? |
| 22:50.30 | Oksanaa | Not right now |
| 22:53.58 | Juesto | Oksanaa: how it's going? :) |
| 23:12.31 | parazyd | DocScrutinizer05: ping |
| 23:13.11 | Juesto | :) |
| 23:29.55 | Wizzup | Juesto: stuck how |
| 23:35.57 | Juesto | i cant uninstall or reinstall alarmd Wizzup |
| 23:36.04 | Juesto | because it fails to start/stop the service |
| 23:36.54 | Juesto | i tried making it not use DSME and it gave a different error |
| 23:54.00 | Juesto | DocScrutinizer05: i am having issues with alarmd still |
| 23:54.19 | Juesto | i cant remove or reinstall it since its failing to start or stop alarmd |
| 23:54.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | as mentioned already, I'm not the competent person to help |
| 23:54.29 | Juesto | :/ |
| 23:54.47 | Wizzup | Juesto: why do you need alarmd now? |
| 23:54.50 | Wizzup | Just curious |
| 23:54.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | alarmd is started/stopped by dsme, so make that work first |
| 23:55.00 | Juesto | i just happen to be stuck with it |
| 23:55.11 | Juesto | dsme doesnt work either |
| 23:55.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | so? |
| 23:55.23 | Juesto | it ends up shutting down the system |
| 23:55.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | this doesn't make fixing alarmd easier |
| 23:55.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | there are dependencies you can't ignore |
| 23:55.53 | Juesto | i cant use apt because of alarmd! |
| 23:55.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | in a lot of stuff |
| 23:55.56 | Juesto | right now |
| 23:56.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's why you don't build the system on ther target system |
| 23:56.45 | Juesto | lol |
| 23:56.53 | Juesto | :( |
| 23:57.20 | Juesto | sighs |
| 23:57.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | you need a working system to configure a complete working target system image, then once the target works, 'small' zpdates can be done on target natively |
| 23:58.02 | Wizzup | Juesto: what is your end goal? |
| 23:58.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed, I fail to even understand what's the goal at hand |
| 23:58.47 | Juesto | Wizzup: get a working fremantle-gtk2 |
| 23:59.01 | Wizzup | on your main system? |
| 23:59.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | look at N900, there you got one |
| 23:59.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry |
| 23:59.10 | parazyd | grins |
| 23:59.17 | Juesto | on a vm |
| 23:59.21 | Juesto | because i run windows |
| 23:59.25 | parazyd | Juesto: don't rush it. we are setting things up on git.devuan.org now |
| 23:59.40 | Juesto | I want to finish what i am doing |
| 23:59.50 | parazyd | when we get the CI ready then you can join in forces and help... right now it seems you are just on your own |