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| 02:16.41 | Michael_a380 | Oksana: were you after the 64gh N9 on TMO? |
| 02:20.19 | Michael_a380 | Oksana: *64gb |
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| 02:34.40 | Juesto | she's not there btw |
| 02:35.00 | Juesto | Michael_a380: ^ |
| 02:36.27 | Michael_a380 | Juesto: Do you know how to contact her? The N9 may be a deal, she would not want to miss. |
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| 02:38.05 | Juesto | hmm, she has many devices already afaik, she is also not replying on PM, oksanaa is her phone Michael_a380 |
| 02:39.05 | Juesto | Okdon't know if she's looking but feel free to pm? |
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| 02:39.23 | Juesto | I'm sure she'll get back to you soon |
| 02:40.10 | Michael_a380 | Oksana = Wikiwide? Have just sent PM & email. |
| 02:40.19 | Juesto | s/okdon/i don/ |
| 02:40.25 | Juesto | Yes. |
| 02:40.44 | Juesto | sigh sed fail |
| 02:41.18 | Juesto | nice! |
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| 02:42.27 | Juesto | and I feel a bit bad for her |
| 02:42.38 | Juesto | nvm |
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| 02:49.00 | Michael_a380 | Juesto: Happen to know her real name? I could look her up in "White Pages". Can PM me: http://talk.maemo.org/member.php?u=72269 |
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| 03:01.38 | Juesto | why |
| 03:01.45 | Juesto | and yes |
| 03:02.05 | Juesto | Michael_a380 ^ |
| 03:02.38 | Juesto | (if that's Wikiwide) |
| 03:02.48 | Michael_a380 | Just found her name |
| 03:02.59 | Juesto | oh ok |
| 03:03.20 | Juesto | it's on the email address anyway |
| 03:05.52 | Michael_a380 | Can't find anything, yet. Maybe it's not worth the risk, considering the seller only wants to use Western Union. |
| 03:06.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | chill! |
| 03:07.08 | Juesto | Australia |
| 03:07.19 | Juesto | Too bad |
| 03:07.31 | Juesto | hmm? |
| 03:07.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | wut? |
| 03:07.56 | Juesto | I miss her.. :/ |
| 03:08.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | stop that |
| 03:08.12 | Michael_a380 | Only been a day |
| 03:08.19 | Juesto | why it's a problem? |
| 03:08.29 | Juesto | it's beyond one day |
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| 03:08.57 | Juesto | nevermind then |
| 03:09.17 | Juesto | sighs and tries to fall asleep |
| 03:09.23 | Michael_a380 | If only she was glued to her desk 24/7 |
| 03:09.42 | Juesto | nah |
| 03:10.01 | Juesto | :| |
| 03:10.29 | lollita | could you please stop stalking now? |
| 03:10.50 | Juesto | i am not a stalker |
| 03:11.02 | Michael_a380 | I feel guilty for buy an N9 last week, that she was looking at. She was gracious and let me buy it. |
| 03:11.06 | Juesto | wtf joerg |
| 03:11.07 | Michael_a380 | *buying |
| 03:11.22 | Michael_a380 | I'm the stalker |
| 03:11.24 | *** mode/#maemo [+o lollita] by ChanServ |
| 03:12.05 | Juesto | Michael_a380: because she doesn't want to increase the collection of unused devices |
| 03:12.18 | Juesto | too many already |
| 03:12.36 | Michael_a380 | can never have enough!! |
| 03:12.38 | Juesto | let's chill please |
| 03:13.00 | Michael_a380 | I'm all good. |
| 03:13.20 | Michael_a380 | ** :P |
| 03:14.01 | Juesto | Cleopatra is here, run! |
| 03:14.08 | *** mode/#maemo [+q *!*@*] by lollita |
| 03:14.54 | *** mode/#maemo [-q *!*@*] by lollita |
| 03:15.21 | *** mode/#maemo [-o lollita] by ChanServ |
| 03:15.31 | Juesto | why |
| 03:15.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | OT |
| 03:16.06 | Juesto | what was that |
| 03:16.25 | Juesto | is confused |
| 03:16.32 | Michael_a380 | probably bipolar |
| 03:16.41 | Juesto | Hmmmmm |
| 03:16.47 | Juesto | strange |
| 03:16.57 | Michael_a380 | no offecnce |
| 03:17.08 | Juesto | bipolar or troll then ( no offense ) |
| 03:17.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | stop that! |
| 03:17.45 | Juesto | waves |
| 03:18.24 | Michael_a380 | Has anyone here been scammed with online purchases (Western Union?)? |
| 03:18.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | not on IRC |
| 03:19.59 | Michael_a380 | Sorry. This sort of chat not accepptable here? |
| 03:20.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | Michael_a380: yours is |
| 03:20.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | as of lateky# |
| 03:21.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | lately* |
| 03:21.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't tolerate female users getting harrassed |
| 03:21.45 | Juesto | is everything okay DocScrutinizer05 ? :s |
| 03:21.52 | Juesto | oh |
| 03:22.07 | Juesto | I am not harassing anyone for your information |
| 03:22.51 | Juesto | this is awkward |
| 03:23.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | then stop it |
| 03:23.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | find a topic |
| 03:23.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | or shut up |
| 03:23.29 | Juesto | apologies |
| 03:23.40 | Juesto | is maemo worth having? |
| 03:23.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 03:23.56 | Juesto | why |
| 03:24.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | because I use it every day |
| 03:24.29 | Juesto | since it's somewhat extinct given it's EOL |
| 03:24.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | cmd: 04:24 up 86 days 13:10, 0 users, load average: 0,00, 0,01, 0,05 |
| 03:24.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | /cmd ssh neo900 uptime |
| 03:25.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~tell Juesto about cssu |
| 03:25.51 | Juesto | my win7 netbook I'm using right now has been up for 162 days |
| 03:25.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~tell Juesto about fptf |
| 03:26.09 | Juesto | Interesting |
| 03:26.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | say hello to freemangordon and parazyd and Pali |
| 03:26.41 | Juesto | how i can contribute without a device? |
| 03:26.50 | Michael_a380 | Apologies. The topic was somewhat this post (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1522219&postcount=7 , althought the 1st direct mention of it). And I was trying to contact Oksana, to see if she was interested. |
| 03:26.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | good question |
| 03:27.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~fptf |
| 03:27.31 | infobot | hmm... fptf is the Fremantle Porting Task Force, see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91308 |
| 03:27.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~sb |
| 03:27.35 | infobot | somebody said scratchbox was a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB |
| 03:27.39 | Juesto | Michael_a380: nothing wrong, he was talking to me i guess |
| 03:28.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | behace! n8! |
| 03:28.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | 'behave' even |
| 03:28.39 | Juesto | DocScrutinizer05: what about testing stuff? better a device? |
| 03:29.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | please rephrase |
| 03:29.38 | Juesto | for testing, should i get a device for better results or its "forced" |
| 03:30.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | absolutely! 'dry' practicing is boring :-) |
| 03:30.21 | Michael_a380 | I was thinking of updating some wiki pages, but it seems impossible for newbies to find them. |
| 03:30.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | Michael_a380: HUH? |
| 03:31.01 | Juesto | as in it's impossible without a maemo device and just the sdk, correct? especially since SDK currently uses xephyr |
| 03:31.26 | Juesto | perhaps i can reconfigure the script to run on X directly |
| 03:31.27 | Michael_a380 | There has been a lot of wiki pages referenced in posts, that I never would have found via navigating the site. |
| 03:32.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | you could develop comlplete apps on scratchbox, but the fun is way higher on real device |
| 03:32.27 | Juesto | true, apparently most stuff is buried in posts than being on a nice wiki |
| 03:32.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | Michael_a380: pls elaborate |
| 03:32.49 | Juesto | not a coder sadly neither scripter |
| 03:33.07 | Juesto | know a little but i don't write |
| 03:33.38 | Juesto | can help with technical support and development testing |
| 03:33.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | get a cheap N900 (50 â¬) and have nore fun than with aby raspi |
| 03:34.03 | Juesto | the former goes to the end user |
| 03:34.17 | Juesto | Argentina here :s |
| 03:34.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | ouch |
| 03:34.31 | Juesto | can try through |
| 03:35.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | contact wpwrak aka Almesberger for advice |
| 03:35.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wiki werner almesberger |
| 03:36.36 | Juesto | LOL searching "maemo" gives me some boxers results at "MercadoLibre" |
| 03:36.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | ? |
| 03:38.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | where in .ar do you live? |
| 03:38.31 | Michael_a380 | I'm probably just lazy with searching. I remember just recently seeing a link to joerg's wiki about ' ~post n900 flashing tips'. I wish I had that at the start. It's sad about all the complaints TMO gets, when there are so many positives. |
| 03:38.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools |
| 03:38.55 | infobot | i heard jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 03:39.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~lf |
| 03:39.10 | infobot | from memory, #maemo lazyflashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach |
| 03:39.18 | Juesto | http://i.imgur.com/nSWXID7.jpg |
| 03:39.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | failed to decode the last part, about tmo |
| 03:40.02 | Juesto | DocScrutinizer05: Buenos Aires, capital |
| 03:40.27 | Michael_a380 | Yes, jrtools, thanks. To summarise, the problem is that I'm a noob. |
| 03:40.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | you can meet Werner for a beer, every day |
| 03:40.36 | Juesto | http://Mercadolibre.com.ar |
| 03:40.50 | Juesto | Interesting |
| 03:41.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | he *loves* beer ;-) |
| 03:41.08 | Juesto | are the others you mentioned in arg too? hmm |
| 03:41.21 | Juesto | idk actually |
| 03:41.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | whom else I mentioned? |
| 03:41.53 | Juesto | Above... nvm |
| 03:42.03 | Juesto | *sigh* |
| 03:42.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | /whois wpwrak |
| 03:43.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | /join neo900 |
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| 03:43.07 | Juesto | even more above actually but ty anyway |
| 03:43.22 | Juesto | I'll check out tomorrow |
| 03:43.33 | Juesto | I can't sleep :/ |
| 03:43.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | oooh pali and fmg ? |
| 03:43.40 | enyc_ | Juesto: =) i woke up early ;p |
| 03:43.45 | Juesto | yes |
| 03:43.53 | Juesto | haha nice |
| 03:44.05 | Juesto | it's midnight here |
| 03:44.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | they are our principal fremantle developers |
| 03:44.26 | Juesto | community, right? |
| 03:44.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | 4:44:44 here |
| 03:45.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | AM |
| 03:45.40 | Juesto | or are any ex-nokia-maemo developers still working? |
| 03:45.56 | Juesto | ..and contributing |
| 03:46.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | CET if I wasn't in JRTZV |
| 03:46.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, some are still around |
| 03:46.34 | Juesto | nice |
| 03:46.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | though not exactly 'working' |
| 03:47.27 | Juesto | nobody from the sdk stuff? because I'm looking for improving the sdk vm... |
| 03:47.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | would count timeless as 'ex Nokia' |
| 03:47.54 | Juesto | especially xephyr maemo hildon |
| 03:48.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((looking for improving the sdk)) go ahead, ask if any questions |
| 03:48.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~sb |
| 03:48.34 | infobot | hmm... scratchbox is a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB |
| 03:49.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~lf |
| 03:49.03 | infobot | i heard #maemo lazyflashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach |
| 03:49.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools |
| 03:49.16 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 03:49.21 | Juesto | Yes, why xephyr wouldn't run properly if i try something else besides the designated shortcut on the desktop |
| 03:49.24 | timeless | is definitely ex-nokia |
| 03:49.35 | timeless | why am i being counted? |
| 03:49.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | definitely EX ? :-D |
| 03:49.47 | Juesto | ex-maemo dev? |
| 03:49.52 | Juesto | :D |
| 03:50.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | timeless: sorry for highlight |
| 03:50.25 | timeless | it's ok, it isn't even midnight yet |
| 03:50.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | 4:50 here |
| 03:50.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | and almost drunk |
| 03:50.47 | timeless | is currently fighting macOS sierra, "SIP", brew, Qt5, keepassxc, and a number of other circles of hell |
| 03:50.59 | timeless | is mostly winning in battles w/ zabbix and certbot |
| 03:51.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | ouch |
| 03:51.08 | timeless | is definitely loosing battles w/ powerdns |
| 03:51.15 | Juesto | looks overwhelming |
| 03:51.28 | timeless | well... i'm the IT guy |
| 03:51.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | hope you also know about fun in lofe |
| 03:51.46 | timeless | so i inherited a lot of systems w/ odd configurations |
| 03:51.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | life, even |
| 03:52.04 | timeless | 1 -- lots of certificates from random CAs w/ random price tags and random levels of validity/security |
| 03:52.09 | timeless | solution: replace w/ letsencrypt |
| 03:52.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~tell Juesto about fptf |
| 03:52.19 | timeless | most certs are used for https which is easy |
| 03:52.32 | timeless | some are used for mail on accessible systems which isn't painful |
| 03:52.50 | timeless | some are used on internal systems that aren't really friendly (hello apc appliance) |
| 03:52.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91142 |
| 03:53.07 | timeless | cute |
| 03:53.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | /hoin neo900 |
| 03:53.17 | timeless | oh, amusingly the shirt i'm wearing today... |
| 03:53.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | /join neo900 |
| 03:53.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry |
| 03:53.29 | timeless | "If you're Qt, |
| 03:53.32 | timeless | I'm open." |
| 03:53.44 | timeless | (yesterday's shirt was a mercurial shirt) |
| 03:53.48 | timeless | oh... today's adventure... |
| 03:54.05 | timeless | i fought w/ osx, dnsmasq, powerdns over ipv6 |
| 03:54.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.crowdsupply.com/raptor-computing-systems/talos-secure-workstation/updates/the-state-of-owner-controlled-computing-as-talos-winds-down?utm_source=Talos+Supporters&utm_campaign=19545976d2-talos_update_winds_down_2017_01_09&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_451951d5fa-19545976d2-112395773 |
| 03:54.26 | timeless | a mac here did a dns lookup (ipv4) and a dns lookup (ipv6) for a name |
| 03:54.42 | timeless | dnsmasq found the name in /etc/hosts and offered the ipv4 local-network address |
| 03:54.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/ |
| 03:54.53 | timeless | but it didn't have an ipv6 address, so it deferred to the public internet |
| 03:55.05 | timeless | which then found a cname to an ipv4 public address which dnsmasq returned |
| 03:55.20 | timeless | unfortunately, the public address wasn't expecting that traffic |
| 03:55.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | www.neo900.org |
| 03:55.27 | Michael_a380 | Has anyone played splix.io ? can be a bit of a stress reliever, if there is no lag. |
| 03:55.35 | timeless | so ~50% of the time http requests worked (going to the local computer) |
| 03:55.55 | timeless | and ~50% of the time they failed (going to the public computer based on the AAAA lookup which found a CNAME to an A record...) |
| 03:56.16 | timeless | technically i've still lost on this front,... since i can't figure out how to get dnsmasq not to pass the query along |
| 03:56.29 | timeless | but i removed the CNAME, so now the only record returned is the local A ... |
| 03:56.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | Michael_a380: read the links I provided and you need more than that for 'stress relieve' |
| 03:57.49 | Michael_a380 | In other words, "Grow up, Michael_a380". |
| 03:57.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | pr you're in wrong chan |
| 03:58.03 | timeless | Michael_a380: hrm, i killed myself? |
| 03:58.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | not 'grow up', but 'WAKE UP' |
| 03:59.02 | Michael_a380 | timeless: I get hysterical when I kill a massive guy |
| 03:59.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | either you're the paying customer, or you're the monetized product |
| 04:00.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | hystorical raisins? |
| 04:00.52 | Michael_a380 | Going to remove a sim from an android, and put it in a newly acquired N9. Any use for the Android? |
| 04:01.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm good question |
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| 04:02.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | better question: how to keep N9 (aka HARM) alive |
| 04:02.40 | timeless | grr, no crossing self sucks |
| 04:02.48 | Michael_a380 | ..... so just never connect it to wifi? Should probably just sell it (android). Mother wasted 220aud on it. |
| 04:04.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | I got a cat S60, just for eval |
| 04:05.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | android sucks donkey balls |
| 04:05.31 | enyc | hrrm talk.maemo.org still missing ipv6 |
| 04:06.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | today I bought a VR goggle, just to learn the cat S80 is 1mm too thick |
| 04:06.12 | Michael_a380 | timeless: another one is http://slither.io/ . Don't bother collecting the little dots, go to the center & kill the big fellas. |
| 04:06.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | enyc: whole maemo.org prolly missing ipv6 |
| 04:07.04 | enyc | DocScrutinizer05: can i help with this? I'm good at that sort of thing... |
| 04:07.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | and tmo will be the very last to support it |
| 04:07.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | enyc: ask warfare |
| 04:07.48 | Michael_a380 | timeless: both games are susceptible to a zoom hack, that many people seem to use. |
| 04:08.57 | Michael_a380 | * which is annoying, I won't lie, I tried it once or twice. |
| 04:09.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | waves and heads out. Juesto don't miss to have a beer with Werner! |
| 04:11.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | he's a particularly nice guy |
| 04:12.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | and how often you got a chance to meet one of linux' early architects |
| 04:13.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | (even when it's 'only' lilo and dos) |
| 04:14.05 | enyc | recalls LOADLIN'ing |
| 04:14.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehehe |
| 04:14.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | don't know if he created that too |
| 04:14.43 | enyc | there was a time i was using the sound-card dos-driver to turn on the PATA interface on a soundcard, then loading linux that used that for a filesystem, or something |
| 04:15.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | n8 folks |
| 04:15.32 | Michael_a380 | What VR type? Obviously not facebook. |
| 04:17.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | stares at /msg chanserv acces #maemo list in disbelief |
| 04:18.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen stskeeps |
| 04:18.47 | infobot | stskeeps <~cvm@unaffiliated/stskeeps> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 771d 7h 23m 4s ago, saying: '.. i presume that was it, chem|st?'. |
| 04:19.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen andre__ |
| 04:19.16 | infobot | andre__ <~andre__@wikimedia/aklapper> was last seen on IRC in channel #gsoc, 13d 16h 18m 30s ago, saying: 'I don't think that question is related to GSoC or GCI? Maybe ask in a Chrome forum or channel? :)'. |
| 04:19.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen dneary |
| 04:19.34 | infobot | i haven't seen 'dneary', DocScrutinizer05 |
| 04:19.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen CrashandDie |
| 04:19.56 | infobot | i haven't seen 'crashanddie', DocScrutinizer05 |
| 04:20.03 | Michael_a380 | ~seen Waldo |
| 04:20.04 | infobot | waldo <~Waldo@unaffiliated/wallabyjenkins-/x-8450033> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 269d 3h 29m 56s ago, saying: 'No'. |
| 04:20.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen X-Fade |
| 04:20.14 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i haven't seen 'x-fade' |
| 04:21.42 | Michael_a380 | ~seen MH17 |
| 04:21.42 | infobot | i haven't seen 'mh17', Michael_a380 |
| 04:34.05 | Michael_a380 | Thanks for links, Doc |
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| 04:40.28 | Juesto | nah DocScrutinizer05 I dont drink smoke or takie drugs |
| 04:41.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | so? |
| 04:41.07 | Michael_a380 | Going to pick-up the N9 in an hour or 2. Hope the gamble was worth it and it aint stuffed. |
| 04:42.05 | Juesto | just saying |
| 04:43.21 | Michael_a380 | Juesto: me too :) .... or maybe in Doc's eyes: :( |
| 04:43.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | stop using me as an excuse for lacks in your life! |
| 04:44.10 | Juesto | lel |
| 04:44.57 | Michael_a380 | I'm not. And I'm not going to bring up Hitler, either. |
| 04:45.03 | Juesto | *sigh* i hope i scrollback doesn't go over (hoping not much talking here) |
| 04:45.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm telling you about solcialicing opportunities. If you feel like an eremite... not my problem |
| 04:45.17 | Michael_a380 | hope that was not too far, (joke) |
| 04:45.49 | Juesto | maybe i should enable conference mode in chatzilla, max 600 of temporal lines |
| 04:46.28 | Michael_a380 | My Uncle was pretty irate when I would not drink with him :( |
| 04:46.33 | Juesto | gah I'll just pull this from irclog |
| 04:46.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe U should stop worrying about other peoples' problems |
| 04:47.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | *I* |
| 04:47.33 | Michael_a380 | I don't see any problems. |
| 04:47.59 | Michael_a380 | oh |
| 04:48.26 | Michael_a380 | Yeah, you care too much, Doc. |
| 04:48.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | I see people telling me about their DOs and DONTs, and that's of course a problems making this 'convo' happen |
| 04:48.47 | Michael_a380 | :p |
| 04:51.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | hell, I'm like a few 1000 miles away from buenos aires, and when I twll two people they live mayve a 10km max apart from each other, ... why the heck I'm doing that?! |
| 04:52.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly my stocks will skyrocket |
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| 07:50.15 | timeless | sighs |
| 07:50.48 | timeless | so, the galaxy nexus i'm using spontaneously reboots -- i think the cellular stack is crashing -- when it comes back, i don't seem to have cellular data -- rebooting again fixes that |
| 07:51.12 | timeless | my blackberry passport doesn't like the idea of charging when it's plugged in, and likes the idea of showing a charging icon when it isn't plugged in |
| 07:51.25 | timeless | the passport behavior reminds me of the "good old days" @nokia :-( |
| 07:54.32 | KotCzarny | reflash? ;) |
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| 08:16.59 | timeless | the passport problem is the classic "usb port is dying" |
| 08:17.26 | KotCzarny | kinda happy to hear n900 isnt the only one with the problem |
| 08:17.44 | warfare | enyc: IPv6 is something I want to tackle this year, at least for the webservers. Need to talk to our provider, but this shouldn't be an issue. |
| 08:17.52 | timeless | having lost at least one usb port on an n900... |
| 08:18.05 | timeless | the nexus ... well... fixing the cellular side of things wasn't easy for non corporate users iirc |
| 08:25.37 | bencoh | ncmpc <3 |
| 08:25.47 | bencoh | (woops, nevermind, lost in backlog) |
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| 08:30.36 | Maxdamantus | usually uses qmpc on N900, but sometimes uses ncmpc for better playlist manipulation. |
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| 09:40.00 | enyc | warfare: yes, start asking the question now at least, gauge quality of response |
| 09:40.16 | enyc | warfare: be wary of being the ''first'' ipv6 customer sort of scenario |
| 09:40.34 | warfare | enyc: IPHH has v6 all over the place. :) |
| 09:40.46 | warfare | enyc: host iphh.net |
| 09:40.59 | enyc | warfare: =) |
| 09:41.53 | warfare | enyc: Actually it's just a matter of "Get 2 /64's, get it routed and configure firewalling. |
| 09:42.17 | enyc | warfare: but what about reverse dns? critical if sending outgoing emails in particular |
| 09:42.56 | warfare | enyc: I send them the zonefile for the reverse lookups. IPHH is pretty hands-on about this. |
| 09:43.04 | enyc | okies |
| 09:43.18 | enyc | in which case matching ipv4 static addressing with similar ipv6 static addressing may be best approach//plan |
| 09:43.24 | enyc | with ipv6 static gatewaying |
| 09:43.59 | warfare | SLAAC is always a bad idea for server networks :) |
| 09:44.04 | enyc | (unless the ipv4 scenario is a 'messy crunch' and there is good reason to spread out in ipv6, treating ipv4 as legacy access only) |
| 09:44.32 | enyc | warfare: even without SLAAC, stateless / RA to pickup gateway can be used... |
| 09:45.03 | warfare | enyc: :) I've been doing IPv6 deployments for 10 years now, maemo.org just wasn't priority. |
| 09:45.30 | enyc | i am wondering what will happen with hosting-providers and ipv4-allocations in general tho |
| 09:45.40 | enyc | if there will be more of a crunch there sort of thing |
| 09:46.04 | enyc | sooner-or-later TLS SNI will be 'assumed' and all those ipv4-addresses for separate SSL hosts won't be needed anywhere near as much |
| 09:47.00 | warfare | enyc: Expect to pay premium for IPv4 adresses, but there is still a lot of unused space. "Lots of SSL" isn't an argument for getting IPv4 space from RIPE. Also, most access providers are already doing CGNAT for IPv4 or something like DSLite. |
| 09:47.35 | enyc | warfare: 'access providers' meaning 3g/4g/mobile sorts? |
| 09:48.08 | warfare | enyc: cable, DSL. Mobile is doing CGNAT since the beginning of mobile data service. |
| 09:48.34 | enyc | warfare: oh hrrm im not used to that but ok |
| 09:49.12 | warfare | Basically, if you have cable internet in Germany at the moment you're not getting a public IPv4 address. |
| 09:49.42 | enyc | and how widespread is ipv6 on german cable? |
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| 09:49.58 | warfare | Pretty much. |
| 09:51.42 | warfare | According to Google, Germany has nearly 30% IPv6 adoption. Which also owns to Deutsche Telekom forcing everyone onto their new Triple-Play network which comes with IPv6 enabled as standard. |
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| 09:54.43 | buZz | man, i dont know what dosbox build i have installed atm |
| 09:54.48 | buZz | but its slow beyond believe |
| 09:55.01 | buZz | apt-get install build-essentials and build my own? :D |
| 09:56.10 | bencoh | I have a build around |
| 09:56.18 | bencoh | not sure it'd be much faster though |
| 09:56.24 | bencoh | I played with optim iirc |
| 09:56.38 | bencoh | http://muarf.org/~bencoh/maemo/dosbox_0.74+svn3858-0maemo4_armel.deb |
| 09:56.40 | buZz | https://github.com/torch/optim ? |
| 09:56.48 | buZz | ah, ty, i'll try it out |
| 09:56.56 | bencoh | not sure which one this is |
| 09:57.11 | bencoh | you might want to have a look at http://muarf.org/~bencoh/maemo/dosbox-bitu-memcpy and http://muarf.org/~bencoh/maemo/dosbox |
| 09:57.38 | buZz | what are those,. binaries? |
| 09:57.39 | bencoh | the latter is probably not relevant considering mtime |
| 09:57.42 | bencoh | I guess |
| 09:57.45 | buZz | :P |
| 09:57.50 | bencoh | that was 2 years ago :) |
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| 09:59.21 | KotCzarny | dos was 30 years ago :P |
| 10:03.44 | bencoh | oh well, looks like I'm using another one from 2015/01/11 |
| 10:04.46 | freemangordon_ | buZz: BTW, there should be some -thumb dosbox on TMO, iirc I compiled it out of curiosity |
| 10:04.48 | bencoh | no idea what's the difference though |
| 10:05.44 | bencoh | maybe just -O3 instead of -O2 |
| 10:06.03 | bencoh | freemangordon_: I doubt it runs faster though :) |
| 10:06.07 | KotCzarny | i usually add compile options to file name when doing optimization builds ;) |
| 10:06.30 | bencoh | I wonder why --disable-opengl |
| 10:06.55 | bencoh | maybe they used an API that maemo isn't compatible with(?) |
| 10:06.59 | buZz | it uses opengl for scaling |
| 10:07.06 | buZz | no need for that on our screen |
| 10:07.12 | bencoh | hmmkay |
| 10:07.31 | bencoh | that's assuming dosbox renders at native screen |
| 10:07.35 | bencoh | which I doubt, but anyway |
| 10:07.39 | bencoh | native res* |
| 10:07.42 | buZz | it does kinda look very good |
| 10:07.45 | buZz | i mean, sharp |
| 10:08.27 | freemangordon_ | bencoh: iirc it WAS faster, maybe because of the newer gcc |
| 10:08.27 | KotCzarny | pixel doubling then |
| 10:08.33 | bencoh | freemangordon_: haha |
| 10:08.45 | bencoh | freemangordon_: intrinsics? |
| 10:10.00 | freemangordon_ | no idea it was a while ago :) |
| 10:10.36 | freemangordon_ | bencoh: re --disable-opengl - n900 doesn't have opengl ;) |
| 10:11.50 | bencoh | which one do we have then? |
| 10:11.59 | KotCzarny | opengles |
| 10:12.00 | bencoh | dont we have one of the *gl api? |
| 10:12.08 | KotCzarny | GLES |
| 10:12.10 | freemangordon_ | what KotCzarny said |
| 10:12.22 | bencoh | ah |
| 10:12.22 | freemangordon_ | or rather GLES2 |
| 10:12.39 | KotCzarny | you can try glshim and enable opengl in dosbox |
| 10:12.45 | KotCzarny | and compare the framerates |
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| 10:13.06 | bencoh | indeed |
| 10:13.08 | freemangordon_ | goes afk |
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| 11:24.21 | Wizzup | bencoh: yes, one of the big downsides of blob drivers for arm is that they never seem to do opengl, only opengles |
| 11:24.30 | Wizzup | bencoh: the open source ones usually do opengl (freedreno, etc) |
| 11:24.59 | Wizzup | re: dosbox, you want the dosbox with arm jit patches |
| 11:26.11 | NeKit | I think NVIDIA Tegra drivers do OpenGL on Android |
| 11:26.48 | Wizzup | Yes, true. NVIDIA as well |
| 11:26.59 | Wizzup | But not: mali, vivante, adreno, what have you |
| 11:27.14 | Wizzup | There is glshim, for basic opengl using opengles |
| 11:28.20 | NeKit | hm, parts of glshim could be probably used to provide glx on top of Android drivers if that's ever needed |
| 11:31.43 | Wizzup | if android used X... |
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| 11:52.51 | bencoh | Wizzup: re dosbox, I think that's the one I used but ... that was 2yo, so, I don't really remember |
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| 12:26.05 | NeKit | not in Android, in Linux |
| 12:30.42 | bencoh | NeKit: true |
| 12:31.11 | bencoh | well, maybe |
| 12:31.34 | Juesto | Android has a certain linux userland |
| 12:31.45 | Juesto | mostly cli tools |
| 12:32.31 | Juesto | uses surfaceflinger instead of x, a system server, zygote and GLES |
| 12:32.59 | Juesto | booting is similar to Linux |
| 12:34.54 | buZz | 12:24:59 < Wizzup> re: dosbox, you want the dosbox with arm jit patches |
| 12:34.56 | buZz | -yes- |
| 12:35.15 | buZz | i was trying to run some 1996 dos demo program, it ran slower than a 8088 would do |
| 12:35.18 | buZz | :P |
| 12:35.25 | bencoh | huhu |
| 13:02.39 | enyc | buZz: even if you turn up cpucycles etc.? |
| 13:04.17 | buZz | i didnt edit the doxbox.conf a lot yet, but it looked to be configured for 'auto' |
| 13:06.10 | enyc | buZz: theres some stantard ctrl+f?something? key you press to increase/decrease cpucycles |
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| 16:30.07 | ynzinier | Hi, I have a problem with my update to an app in python. When I start it from terminal everything works fine, when from system menu - there is no text in some table cells |
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| 17:38.12 | ynzinier | Does anyone know how to solve problem I've described ? |
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| 18:11.50 | Vajb | just noticed that we have libwebp which rdepends on pidgin telegram. Does this mean that pidgin should be able to show .webp images? |
| 18:12.13 | Vajb | and if yes, why it doesn't for me? |
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| 20:30.41 | Juesto | maybe it's for something else Vajb? |
| 20:46.54 | Vajb | Juesto: don't ask me. Im just guessing here |
| 20:47.16 | Vajb | trying to figure out how to view those telegram stickers under maemo |
| 20:47.40 | Vajb | so far none of the image viewers r cabable of showing them |
| 20:47.45 | Vajb | how ever |
| 20:48.38 | Vajb | apt-cache search libwebp |
| 20:48.38 | Vajb | libwebp - Lossy compression of digital photographic images. |
| 20:51.20 | KotCzarny | now find packages depending on that lib |
| 20:55.55 | Vajb | Depends: libc6 Depends: libgcc1 |
| 20:56.26 | KotCzarny | no, reverse depends |
| 20:57.09 | Vajb | Reverse Depends: purple-protocol-telegram libwebp-dev |
| 20:59.40 | KotCzarny | so you have answer now |
| 20:59.42 | Vajb | so in my common sense it should use it? |
| 20:59.55 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 21:00.16 | Vajb | hmm still .webp images r shown as red x |
| 21:00.37 | KotCzarny | maybe its an old library? |
| 21:01.40 | Vajb | i was guessing that maybe it is because as default purple-protocol-telegram is installed to / and i moved it to /home/user/.purple/plugin as suggested? |
| 21:03.03 | Vajb | so i made symlink in / pointing to it |
| 21:03.28 | Vajb | didn't get chance to try if it worked, yet |
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| 21:26.40 | Vajb | well we have 0.5.0-1 and there seems to be at least 0.5.2 out |
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