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| 09:57.15 | KotCzarny | hmm, idea. it shouldnt be hard to replace broken search on t.m.o with google widget |
| 09:57.49 | KotCzarny | who is tmo admin? xes? |
| 09:59.52 | warfare | chem|st is. |
| 10:00.18 | bencoh | google widget? are you serious? ... |
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| 10:08.18 | KotCzarny | bencoh, most people would use google to search tmo anyway |
| 10:08.56 | KotCzarny | or even better it could be a simple form to redirect to google, ie google.com?search?q=something |
| 10:09.04 | KotCzarny | so not even a widget |
| 10:13.23 | KotCzarny | bencoh, unless you know how to make tmo search work (i suspect some indexing service is not running) |
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| 10:34.59 | chem|st | KotCzarny: broken search widget?! powersearch works, that is google search |
| 10:36.39 | KotCzarny | wha'ts powersearch? |
| 10:37.01 | chem|st | http://talk.maemo.org/msearch.php |
| 10:37.16 | KotCzarny | um, but the thing on the top right doesnt work |
| 10:37.23 | KotCzarny | maybe you should update this part? |
| 10:37.24 | chem|st | KotCzarny: it is in the menu the first item... |
| 10:37.32 | chem|st | KotCzarny: update what? |
| 10:37.53 | KotCzarny | on the top right corner you have search form input |
| 10:38.02 | KotCzarny | which is broken (and uses search.php) |
| 10:38.15 | KotCzarny | replace it to use msearch then? |
| 10:38.48 | chem|st | this would force people to use google |
| 10:38.53 | KotCzarny | nono |
| 10:39.07 | KotCzarny | if msearch works, then replace top right search to use msearch |
| 10:39.31 | chem|st | KotCzarny: msearch is google |
| 10:40.09 | KotCzarny | what i meant originally is that topright search box with orange 'go' button is broken |
| 10:40.41 | chem|st | in what way broken, the returns are odd sometimes but in general it works |
| 10:40.53 | KotCzarny | try searching for usb |
| 10:40.55 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 10:41.17 | chem|st | that is if you get more than 1k returns |
| 10:41.26 | KotCzarny | fix the error msg then? |
| 10:41.42 | chem|st | it should actually stopp at 500 but for some reason does not |
| 10:41.43 | KotCzarny | right now it is completely misleading |
| 10:41.57 | KotCzarny | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:42.25 | KotCzarny | searching for 'usb fix' also failed |
| 10:42.39 | chem|st | I know but I cannot change a reply that is actually ok just because a bug in vB does that |
| 10:42.55 | KotCzarny | and if you require 4 chars or more, maybe add such information too? |
| 10:43.35 | chem|st | I tried to fix it on several occasions... sometimes I then get a reply working again and after a while it stopps working, so it has to do with the cache |
| 10:43.41 | chem|st | or call it index |
| 10:43.59 | chem|st | reindexing is 72h downtime of the forum |
| 10:44.39 | KotCzarny | my suggestion is to add information on the search.php results page that would explain that searching requires 4chars or more and that it can fail when too many results are returned |
| 10:44.58 | chem|st | or well, better said to be 7 days reindexing with no forum downtime, that is what it took a couple of years ago |
| 10:46.05 | KotCzarny | do it semi-annually then with sticky warning ? |
| 10:46.58 | chem|st | I can revert the search function to keywords instead of fulltext |
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| 10:47.26 | chem|st | might work better in terms of you get returns but less in terms of quality |
| 10:47.40 | KotCzarny | maybe make it use keywords when fulltext fails? |
| 10:48.44 | bencoh | waitamin ... search fails when there are too many results? |
| 10:49.16 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 10:49.18 | Michael_a380 | I don't understand much of this, but how about a 'permenant / static messege' about the search limitations & possible 'search errors' ? |
| 10:49.23 | KotCzarny | also on 3 letter words |
| 10:50.31 | chem|st | KotCzarny: the minimum search text is set to 3... something is wrong with that indexer |
| 10:52.34 | chem|st | " MySQL Fulltext has its own minimum word length as well that must be changed at the server level." I might have found the issue |
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| 10:55.24 | chem|st | setting it to 4 still does not tell that "usb" is too short |
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| 11:05.26 | chem|st | MySQL fulltext min word length is defaulting to 4 |
| 11:07.20 | bencoh | huhu |
| 11:07.25 | bencoh | well ... :) |
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| 12:42.50 | sicelo- | stuck |
| 12:43.22 | sicelo- | sorry about that one |
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| 15:31.54 | Vajb | is it possible to lock n900 volume keys while screen is locked? |
| 15:36.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | err yes? |
| 15:39.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | at least supposed to, though I#m not all that sure this actually _works_: etc/mce/mce.ini http://paste.opensuse.org/27541461 |
| 15:40.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | given that vol+/- are actually mapped to F7/9 or somesuch, this is exactly the dial tu tweak for locking volume keys |
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| 15:43.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: ^^^ doesn't work. Is this a mce regression in CSSU? |
| 15:43.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: how would I even check which version of mce I'm running? |
| 15:44.08 | Vajb | it is set to 1 already, hmm |
| 15:44.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, here too |
| 15:44.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | what system you're running? |
| 15:45.12 | Vajb | cssu-testing |
| 15:45.31 | Vajb | and volume keys r working while screen is locked |
| 15:45.59 | Vajb | and that is kinda inconvenient if phone is in my pocket and starts to adjust volume to max... |
| 15:46.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | same here |
| 15:46.57 | Vajb | so no cookie yet. I'll have to contiue work, but i'll read backlog if u come up with something |
| 15:47.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# ls -l /sbin/mce; md5sum /sbin/mce |
| 15:47.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 81160 2015-04-05 16:56 /sbin/mce |
| 15:47.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | 1edd10407336c736c0466bbcfe2084c9 /sbin/mce |
| 15:52.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | I got a /home/opt/var/cache/apt/archives/mce_1.8.126+0m5_armel.deb with -rwxr-xr-x root/root 80760 2010-07-29 14:30 ./sbin/mce |
| 15:52.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~pkg |
| 15:52.31 | infobot | methinks pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ |
| 15:52.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~pkgs |
| 15:52.32 | infobot | #maemo pkg is probably http://maemo.org/packages/ |
| 15:54.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog Tmaemo11 >>mce * FOSS release * Fixes for upstream kernel<< |
| 15:56.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: wasn't it you who made FOSS mce? please check etc/mce/mce.ini http://paste.opensuse.org/27541461 vs http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_ssu_pr1-2_armel/mce/1.8.118+0m5/ -- REGRESSION? |
| 15:58.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/28099749 |
| 15:59.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: would you like to install http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_ssu_pr1-2_armel/mce/1.8.118+0m5/ ? might help |
| 16:00.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | oops sorry, nevermind |
| 16:00.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_root_pr1-2_armel/mce/1.8.126+0m5/ |
| 16:02.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/9778156 |
| 16:02.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: ^^^ |
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| 16:14.55 | sicelo- | nnot to belittle your problem Vajb ... my volume buttons need 'intention' to press, and they aren't so soft to press too ... can't imagine what would activate them in pocket |
| 16:18.14 | sicelo- | that 'thing' sounds likely to even activate power button and turn off/on the device |
| 16:19.45 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: what is the regression? |
| 16:19.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | nope, I just installed mce*126 and it nuked community-PR but didn't fix vol kets |
| 16:20.23 | freemangordon | yes, this change (enable vol keys even when device is locked) was introduced in pr1.2 iirc |
| 16:20.36 | DocScrutinizer51 | freemangordon: vol keysl not locked |
| 16:20.49 | freemangordon | yes, this is intentional |
| 16:20.58 | DocScrutinizer51 | FFS rhere's a config option for that |
| 16:21.05 | freemangordon | and? |
| 16:21.21 | DocScrutinizer51 | it doesn't do a thing |
| 16:21.41 | freemangordon | does it do a thing on pr1.2 mce? |
| 16:21.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | no |
| 16:21.53 | DocScrutinizer51 | see aboce |
| 16:21.59 | freemangordon | so? what is regressed? |
| 16:22.00 | DocScrutinizer51 | above |
| 16:22.09 | freemangordon | yep, saw it |
| 16:22.17 | DocScrutinizer51 | none obviously, see above |
| 16:22.46 | DocScrutinizer51 | the regreesion is with pr12 mce |
| 16:23.00 | DocScrutinizer51 | which fucked up |
| 16:23.38 | freemangordon | ah, you mean that because they ignore the settings file, there is a bug? sounds same |
| 16:23.44 | freemangordon | *sane |
| 16:25.07 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: does cssu mce segfaults as well? |
| 16:25.10 | DocScrutinizer51 | yep |
| 16:25.24 | freemangordon | but, there is another mce instance running, right? |
| 16:25.27 | DocScrutinizer51 | yes |
| 16:25.36 | DocScrutinizer51 | see pastebin |
| 16:26.10 | freemangordon | the one with the segfault? |
| 16:26.17 | DocScrutinizer51 | it has version and segf |
| 16:27.03 | freemangordon | hmm. DocScrutinizer05please open an issue on github |
| 16:29.55 | freemangordon | wtf? |
| 16:30.50 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: https://github.com/community-ssu/mce/issues |
| 16:34.17 | KotCzarny | no issue, perfect package |
| 16:34.21 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 16:34.39 | DocScrutinizer51 | k, laqyer. roaming |
| 16:34.50 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: the wtf ^^^ was because issues were not enabled for this package :D |
| 16:34.55 | DocScrutinizer51 | kater |
| 16:34.58 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 16:34.59 | freemangordon | ok |
| 16:35.00 | DocScrutinizer51 | dang |
| 16:35.06 | freemangordon | later |
| 16:35.07 | KotCzarny | no issues, no problem ;) |
| 16:35.08 | freemangordon | :) |
| 16:35.14 | freemangordon | yep |
| 16:36.23 | DocScrutinizer51 | Ill check if 126 also segfs |
| 16:37.25 | DocScrutinizer51 | yep, all the same |
| 16:38.27 | DocScrutinizer51 | afk |
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| 16:39.51 | Vajb | hmm so no need to install anything new since it wont change a thing? |
| 16:40.56 | Vajb | DocScrutinizer05: i already have newer mce |
| 16:41.22 | Vajb | mce: Installed: 1.8.127.3+0m5 |
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| 16:47.09 | Vajb | sicelo-: isn't powerkey locked when device is? |
| 16:47.28 | bencoh | huh? |
| 16:47.49 | bencoh | no it isn't :) |
| 16:48.12 | Vajb | oh dang |
| 16:48.12 | KotCzarny | hum, it isnt? |
| 16:48.24 | KotCzarny | i've thought all keys are locked (- powerkey) |
| 16:48.26 | bencoh | funny how I almost forgot about the lock switch |
| 16:48.32 | bencoh | I just never use it |
| 16:48.35 | bencoh | (at all) |
| 16:48.37 | Vajb | i hope it wont turn my device of then.. |
| 16:49.47 | sicelo- | yes it's not :-) |
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| 16:55.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | FYI: http://paste.opensuse.org/3657714 |
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| 17:00.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: I thought DOWNgrading from 127 to 126 would solve the problem, but the regression sneaked in somewhere around 115 |
| 17:01.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | bencoh: like I almost never use power button |
| 17:01.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | except for checking time of day |
| 17:02.25 | bencoh | same :) |
| 17:02.49 | bencoh | well, or power device off with systemui menu |
| 17:03.18 | bencoh | I use a wayv gesture to lock phone |
| 17:06.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | oh! |
| 17:06.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | now that's geeky :-) |
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| 17:08.27 | bencoh | :> |
| 17:08.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | given the extremel<y pathetic accelerometer integration, isn't it power greedy to poll the accel to detect gestures like that? |
| 17:08.46 | bencoh | touchscreen gestures |
| 17:08.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | oh |
| 17:09.45 | bencoh | I patched wayv a bit to adapt it to maemo/n900, and configured it to only capture mouse in a 1px (or 2px)-large area on the side of the screen |
| 17:09.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | for accel, Nokia failed epically to invent a decent API |
| 17:10.08 | bencoh | meaning that all my wayv gestures start from the side of the screen |
| 17:10.21 | bencoh | but it can continue from there all screen over |
| 17:11.01 | bencoh | so I have a few of them to switch to desktop, task launcher, app launcher, or lock device |
| 17:11.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((accel)) the chip's filter and trigger settings are HARDCODED into driver, go figure! |
| 17:12.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | and if that wasn't already bad enough, they even used pretty bad and silly settings |
| 17:12.38 | bencoh | filter and trigger ... is it supposed to be done in hw by the chip itself? |
| 17:12.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 17:12.47 | bencoh | I know some TI chips have support for tiny firmwares |
| 17:12.52 | bencoh | oh, nice then |
| 17:13.07 | bencoh | and you can configure it to detect free fall, or "tap"/double-tap |
| 17:14.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | you can set a min and max threshold on 2 of the 3 axes. and you can apply a highpass filter to only fast enough movement from any position into any other position would trigger an IRQ. |
| 17:14.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | Nokia set a "DC" threshold on just one axis iirc |
| 17:15.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | it was just as much as they needed to detect "screen down" |
| 17:15.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | pathetic |
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| 17:17.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | what's worse: this is in kernel driver, and API is fubar so there's not even a possible way to fix this in userland |
| 17:18.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | just like they fucked up LED pattern engine LS5523, they don't use all the memory this chip offers, and they don't expose the var registers (or any other registers on that topic) |
| 17:19.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | at least that API isn't *totally* fubar, it could get augmented and fixed |
| 17:29.48 | bencoh | well, overengineering it would have been easy as well, so ... |
| 17:29.53 | bencoh | can't blame them |
| 17:31.47 | Vajb | KotCzarny: how is that imgur coming together? |
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| 17:39.23 | KotCzarny | vajb: i was preparing opensource oscp release, will try looking into imgur plugin tomorrow |
| 17:41.32 | bencoh | oh, really? :) |
| 17:41.40 | bencoh | nice |
| 17:56.28 | Vajb | cool :p |
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| 20:59.09 | NeKit | how much the system inside SDK is different from real device? |
| 21:20.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | it lacks quite some sensors, obviously |
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| 21:20.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | and iirc it runs x86 instead arm |
| 21:21.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | also no phone and prolly no audio either |
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| 22:54.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | how the heck would I disable the twl4030 keypad IRQ? sth about: |
| 22:54.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | --w------- 1 root root 4096 2017-01-16 23:52 /sys/bus/platform/drivers/twl4030_keypad/bind |
| 22:54.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | --w------- 1 root root 4096 2017-01-16 23:52 /sys/bus/platform/drivers/twl4030_keypad/unbind |
| 22:54.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | ? |
| 23:00.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: to lock kbd completely: ## echo 'twl4030_keypad' >/sys/bus/platform/drivers/twl4030_keypad/unbind; ## to re-enable: ## echo 'twl4030_keypad' >/sys/bus/platform/drivers/twl4030_keypad/bind; ## |
| 23:01.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | swiftly tested, seems to work with no obvious negative side effects |
| 23:02.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: now what you need is a way to make that happen on device/screen lock and unlock respectively |
| 23:03.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: ^^^ idealy this becomes a patch to mce, right? |
| 23:04.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: until then, I'm pretty sure you can clutch together sth with dbus-scripting, triggering the according commands as mentioned above on signals that indicate tklock / unlock |
| 23:06.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | I suggest: |
| 23:06.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | signal sender=:1.14 -> dest=(null destination) serial=525 path=/com/nokia/mce/signal; interface=com.nokia.mce.signal; member=tklock_mode_ind |
| 23:06.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:07.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | aka "mce sends signal: 'device locked' " |
| 23:08.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | see pkg "dbus-scripting" |
| 23:13.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/74779136 |
| 23:13.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | note that I strongly recommend to use dbus-scripting instead dbus-monitor |
| 23:43.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | not recommended (but works): dbus-monitor --system|grep --line-buffered -A1 'interface=com.nokia.mce.signal; member=tklock_mode_ind'|while read; do case $REPLY in *string\ \"unlocked\"*) echo UNLOCKED; echo 'twl4030_keypad' >/sys/bus/platform/drivers/twl4030_keypad/bind;; *string\ \"locked\"*) echo LOCKED; echo 'twl4030_keypad' >/sys/bus/platform/drivers/twl4030_keypad/unbind;; esac; done |
| 23:50.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | no idea if maybe (from syslog) this would be better suited: Jan 17 00:49:21 IroN900 systemui-tklock[1085]: Method call received from: :1.14, iface: com.nokia.system_ui.request, method: tklock_close |