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| 03:50.09 | newbieAlert | Hi . My n900 seems t have a hardware problem of proximity sensor being "Closed" always. Is there any way to disable it ? |
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| 03:54.24 | Oksanaa | Huh... One: try to shine a really bright flashlight into it, see if it helps. Is it the sensor responsible for backlight of hardware keyboard? If yes, I have the same problem, but then, I have a paper sticker over the sensor. |
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| 04:15.24 | newbieAlert | Oksanaa: No it did not help. |
| 04:17.05 | newbieAlert | I dont think keypad light are related to proximiity sensor. Is there anyway to disable proximity sensor during call so that it is easy to pick up the call. |
| 04:25.55 | Oksanaa | Ah, have no problems with call, I think. https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=71188 Might be problem with flex ribbon cable? |
| 04:31.29 | newbieAlert | Most probably no. It remains active irrespective of keyboard being closed or not. And technicians here do not want to repair this phone because of lack of spare parts. So, I want a software solution if possible. |
| 04:36.48 | Oksanaa | Okay... Never seen a technician agreeing to repair my N900, either. https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=974759 software and proximity sensor |
| 04:37.50 | Oksanaa | Not quite solver, though ^ |
| 04:40.50 | newbieAlert | Oksanaa: i do not think it is the solution. But thank you. :) I tried /sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/proximity/disabled -> 0 ( it is 1 by default) but nothing happened. |
| 04:45.51 | Oksanaa | Different device, similar problem? https://talk.maemo.org/archive/index.php/t-86100.html try editing /etc/mce/mce.ini to remove proximity; from Modules=? |
| 04:49.52 | Oksanaa | Would recommend back-up of anything important from phone, if possible. To restart mce, either reboot, or sudo gainroot \n stop mce; start mce |
| 04:54.52 | Oksanaa | newbieAlert : How are you? I am not sure myself if proximity is listed in N900's mce.ini |
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| 08:02.44 | newbieAlert | Dont think proximity is there in mce modules list. |
| 08:16.43 | bencoh | newbieAlert: I suppose you tried rebooting, obviously? |
| 08:18.36 | bencoh | Vajb: hangouts on n900? |
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| 08:29.58 | jonwil | hi |
| 08:38.47 | Vajb | bencoh: hangouts smiley theme in pidgin |
| 08:39.36 | bencoh | ah |
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| 10:34.00 | freemangordon | omg, clutter 1.x depends on gtk3 ?!? |
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| 10:42.24 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: ^^^ any clue? |
| 10:42.31 | KotCzarny | its gnome project after all, right? |
| 10:42.48 | KotCzarny | problem is with gtk>3 |
| 10:43.21 | KotCzarny | because their versioning plan is weird |
| 10:43.27 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: I built h-d on gtk2 with clutter 1.0 |
| 10:43.47 | KotCzarny | you can try backporting clutter to gtk2? |
| 10:43.47 | freemangordon | but it refuses to start as clutter1.0 loads gdk3 libs |
| 10:43.59 | KotCzarny | o.O |
| 10:44.24 | freemangordon | this is insane |
| 10:44.46 | KotCzarny | https://developer.gnome.org/clutter/stable/building-clutter.html |
| 10:44.57 | KotCzarny | nothing about gtk/gdk version |
| 10:45.52 | KotCzarny | http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/x/clutter.html |
| 10:45.54 | KotCzarny | similarly |
| 10:46.17 | freemangordon | seems there is gdk backend build by default |
| 10:46.37 | KotCzarny | maybe it autodetected gdk during build and used it |
| 10:47.12 | KotCzarny | you can check unused raw lib dependencies (ldd -u) |
| 10:47.26 | KotCzarny | to see if it really depends on gdk3 or gets it from some subli b |
| 10:49.17 | freemangordon | already did and it uses gdk3.so |
| 10:49.59 | KotCzarny | check the build config/log |
| 10:50.40 | freemangordon | --enable-gdk-backend=yes, in debian/rules :) |
| 10:50.58 | KotCzarny | check if you can point to v2 |
| 10:51.43 | freemangordon | tried, fails |
| 10:51.53 | KotCzarny | does it build without gdk? |
| 10:52.52 | freemangordon | seems like yes |
| 10:53.04 | KotCzarny | benchmark |
| 10:53.05 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 10:56.45 | freemangordon | hmm? |
| 10:56.53 | freemangordon | this is for x86 |
| 10:56.55 | KotCzarny | to see if it will be slower without gdk |
| 10:57.23 | freemangordon | isn't that supposed to use GL?!? |
| 10:57.45 | freemangordon | why should I care about gdk? |
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| 10:57.52 | KotCzarny | was it linked to opengl when built with gdk? |
| 10:58.14 | freemangordon | no idea, but afaik backend is runtime-detected |
| 10:58.53 | freemangordon | and deffinitely I don;t want gdk backend for hildon-deskto |
| 10:59.18 | freemangordon | but e/gl |
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| 10:59.52 | freemangordon | ok, something got build, lets see :) |
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| 11:01.16 | freemangordon | or not :( |
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| 11:16.35 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: it runs :) |
| 11:16.56 | KotCzarny | anything being different? |
| 11:17.32 | freemangordon | so far nothing |
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| 11:22.02 | bencoh | freemangordon: hildon-desktop+clutter on recent gtk2? |
| 11:22.09 | freemangordon | yes |
| 11:22.13 | bencoh | neat |
| 11:22.27 | bencoh | how comes you're back to gtk2 though? |
| 11:22.37 | freemangordon | bencoh: themes ;) |
| 11:22.41 | bencoh | huhu |
| 11:22.48 | KotCzarny | and i bet its easier to upgrade one by one |
| 11:22.53 | KotCzarny | than all at once |
| 11:22.58 | freemangordon | well, "back"... |
| 11:23.12 | freemangordon | I just want to see which option is more viable |
| 11:30.43 | freemangordon | hmm, it looks almost like the real one, needs just some more work on libhildon |
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| 12:42.30 | newbieAlert | bencoh: Yes :D Did not work :( Or is there atleast a way to unlock screen during call ? That is the main problem. Can it be done using dbus for call state and disabling lock based on that ? |
| 12:43.39 | bencoh | I guess it could |
| 12:44.48 | bencoh | you might try patching whichever part of the code is responsible for the proximity sensor as well |
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| 16:04.48 | bencoh | I wonder if changing vibrate pattern for messages/notifcations based on proximity/lumonisity sensor and whether keyboard is opened/closed would be feasable/easy |
| 16:06.30 | bencoh | probably by patching mce |
| 16:07.06 | bencoh | you do want strong vibrations when phone is in your pocket, but once it's already in your hands, or even worse, sitting on a wooden table .... |
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| 16:13.04 | ff_ | modified mce.ini & restart mce works, but only several times |
| 16:13.11 | ff_ | and then start: mce respawning too fast, stopped |
| 16:15.44 | ff_ | why OS doesn't allow unlimit restart daemons? |
| 16:16.28 | bencoh | I wouldn't want to edit/restart mce everytime I open/close keyboard |
| 16:16.36 | bencoh | and I dont wanna monitor light sensor either |
| 16:16.49 | kerio | can't you just SIGHUP mce |
| 16:16.51 | bencoh | I want it to check system status before issuing a vibrate command |
| 16:16.52 | kerio | to make it reload the config |
| 16:17.00 | bencoh | kerio: no idea, but still |
| 16:17.14 | bencoh | I dont want a kludge/workaround :) |
| 16:17.36 | bencoh | I guess I'll have a look at this part of the code |
| 16:19.37 | ff_ | it would be nice feature :) |
| 16:19.55 | bencoh | actually there is already something close in "policy |
| 16:20.06 | bencoh | in the policy field of vibrating patterns |
| 16:20.36 | bencoh | but it only checks whether display is on/off and/or device in acting dead |
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| 17:54.53 | Vajb | KotCzarny: T520 bought. Now im just waiting to get my hands on it :) |
| 17:55.05 | KotCzarny | yay! |
| 17:55.09 | KotCzarny | what config? |
| 17:56.10 | Vajb | i5 2520M, 8GB ram and 160GB ssd. Win 7 pro. |
| 17:56.28 | KotCzarny | integrated card or dedicated? |
| 17:56.54 | Vajb | that i do not know |
| 17:57.07 | KotCzarny | do you know exact model-type ? |
| 17:57.22 | KotCzarny | or have a photos of the bottom? |
| 17:57.49 | Vajb | nope |
| 17:58.01 | KotCzarny | you will love it anyway |
| 17:58.05 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 17:58.21 | Vajb | will know when i get it :) |
| 17:59.27 | KotCzarny | if you dont use cd/dvd, you can get bay 2nd hdd adapter |
| 17:59.36 | KotCzarny | and put some storage drive there |
| 18:04.19 | newbieAlert | bencoh : tried dbus-scripts.. did not work. Can not find a reason :/ |
| 18:06.44 | Vajb | KotCzarny: oh i see. Is it possible to get dock with dvd drive for this model? |
| 18:08.05 | KotCzarny | hum? |
| 18:08.19 | Vajb | tho i have usb dock for hdd's so maybe i use that :) |
| 18:08.58 | KotCzarny | i've found that cd/dvd is obsolete these days |
| 18:09.14 | KotCzarny | just popout the optical drive and put hdd dock in there |
| 18:09.58 | Vajb | i see |
| 18:10.18 | KotCzarny | something like this: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Aluminum-2nd-HDD-Caddy-12-7mm-2-5-SATA-3-0-SSD-Case-HDD-Enclosure-for/32364238935.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.18.8lzRYB&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10065_10068_10000009_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10060_10062_10056_10055_10037_10054_10059_10032_10099_10078_10079_10077_10000012_426_10103_10073_10102_10000015_10096_10052_10053_10107_10050_10106_10051,searchweb201603_1,afswitch_5,single_sort_0_p |
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| 18:12.39 | Vajb | oh that's one cheap improvement |
| 18:12.45 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 18:13.02 | KotCzarny | but that depends if you need optical drive, some people have work that requires it |
| 18:13.14 | KotCzarny | otherwise 2nd hdd is much better idea |
| 18:13.27 | Vajb | in wiki it said it supports 16gb ram, but i guess there r only two slots |
| 18:14.23 | newbieAlert | Hi i have another question. I have shortcudD but stilol camera button actually opens Camera. Isn't there any way to remove this functionality ? |
| 18:14.38 | KotCzarny | you might check which thickness you need htough, 9.5mm or 12.5 |
| 18:14.54 | KotCzarny | price is the same, just physical size differs depending on the slot |
| 18:15.04 | Vajb | newbieAlert: u can change this from camera settings i think |
| 18:17.38 | Vajb | can't wait to get my hands on it! |
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| 18:18.55 | newbieAlert | Vajb: My camera button seems to work in a different way .. proper press of it tends to open the camera but improper press ( like just pressing it without clicking it) actually executes the shortcutD commands . |
| 18:19.29 | Vajb | yes it has zoom feature |
| 18:19.48 | Vajb | but that camera opening can be changed |
| 18:20.07 | Vajb | i just can't remember where and looking for it now |
| 18:20.37 | newbieAlert | Vajb: That's changed. It was in the settings . :) Thanks :) But shortcutd is still not working :/ |
| 18:22.25 | Vajb | go to settings menu and check that u have correct settings in shortcutd |
| 18:22.43 | Vajb | yeah just found those settings too :) |
| 18:23.15 | Vajb | from shortcutd settings u can change actions for short and longpress |
| 18:23.33 | sixwheeledbeast | newbieAlert: not really. There are things in extras to "suppress" the camera-ui appearing. Shortcutd uses cam-focus to activate commands. |
| 18:23.44 | bencoh | hmmm mce/modules/vibrator.c is plain ugly |
| 18:23.52 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 18:24.03 | newbieAlert | Vajb: Still not working.. I mean it works randomly . |
| 18:24.27 | Vajb | is ur camera button good? |
| 18:24.36 | newbieAlert | sixwheeledbeast: camera-ui can be swithced off from the settings it self as Vajb suggested. |
| 18:25.01 | newbieAlert | Vajb: for opening cmaera.. 100% strike rate ... For shortrcutd, depends on luck. |
| 18:25.04 | Vajb | i think u can use syslog or something to check if it detects all ur presses |
| 18:25.29 | Vajb | what u have set it to do then? |
| 18:26.01 | newbieAlert | act as power button or unlock the screen |
| 18:26.02 | sixwheeledbeast | I don't believe you can you have installed something from extras for that option in settings. |
| 18:26.05 | newbieAlert | Vajb: ^^ |
| 18:26.20 | sixwheeledbeast | dmesg will show cam_focus |
| 18:26.43 | Vajb | i have mediaplayer play/pause as short press and panucci play/pause for longpress and if i hold button tad too long it executes long press one. It is easy to miss |
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| 18:27.29 | newbieAlert | sixwheeledbeast: Maybe. But i found the setting in the UI itself. Checking dmesg. Last time I had checked it had something something for cam-launch or something. |
| 18:27.40 | Vajb | sixwheeledbeast: setting camera ui triggering from cam button was implemented in cssu |
| 18:27.50 | Vajb | setting off* |
| 18:28.54 | sixwheeledbeast | so you would need something from extras to disable it, or gconftool I imagine |
| 18:29.31 | Vajb | do u have device with cssu in hand now sixwheeledbeast? |
| 18:29.39 | sixwheeledbeast | yep |
| 18:30.06 | Vajb | open camera. Tap screen to show title. Click title and select settings. From there u can change it |
| 18:31.10 | sixwheeledbeast | that will be camera-ui2 not camera-ui |
| 18:31.20 | sixwheeledbeast | ~nicocam |
| 18:31.31 | Vajb | oh? |
| 18:32.09 | Vajb | apt-cache policy camera-ui |
| 18:32.09 | Vajb | camera-ui: Installed: 1.1.29.2+0cssu18 Candidate: 1.1.29.2+0cssu18 |
| 18:33.03 | newbieAlert | Vajb: Found. CAm focus is not working properly. :( Cam launch is perfectly working. |
| 18:33.11 | Vajb | or is this camera-ui2 already? |
| 18:33.31 | sixwheeledbeast | 1.1.29.1+0m5 is stock camera |
| 18:33.56 | Vajb | newbieAlert: im glad to be right at once :) |
| 18:34.03 | KotCzarny | maybe os is eating cam-focus |
| 18:34.35 | Vajb | sixwheeledbeast: ok i installed something from repos then or it came with cssu |
| 18:35.01 | sixwheeledbeast | it will be testing version that's why |
| 18:35.04 | Vajb | i have cssu-testing btw |
| 18:35.10 | sixwheeledbeast | :nod: |
| 18:35.15 | Vajb | ah :) |
| 18:36.28 | newbieAlert | Vajb: :) Thanks. Anyway to make it use cam-launch instead of focus ? |
| 18:37.13 | newbieAlert | Or volume buttons ? They can also made available in a locked device,so may replace cam-button funcitonality. |
| 18:37.13 | Vajb | i think it can be done, sixwheeledbeast? |
| 18:37.18 | sixwheeledbeast | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Features/Camera_UI |
| 18:37.50 | Vajb | volumebuttons control mediaålayer volume already |
| 18:38.06 | Vajb | mediaplayer* |
| 18:38.19 | sixwheeledbeast | shortcutd only works with cam_focus |
| 18:38.34 | sixwheeledbeast | or prox sensor |
| 18:40.03 | newbieAlert | sixwheeledbeast: I meant something other than shorcutd. Dont they fire dbus signal?? Something like HildonVolsomething. |
| 18:41.48 | sixwheeledbeast | Use command in terminal to test your cam_focus -> while true; do cat /sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/cam_focus/state; done |
| 18:42.11 | ff_ | you can use "inotifywait -qq -e access /sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/cam_launch/state" in loop and do whatever you like |
| 18:43.52 | ff_ | inotifywait is in "inotify-tools", so just "apt-get install inotify-tools" |
| 18:45.10 | newbieAlert | Thanks guys :) :) |
| 18:45.27 | ff_ | cam_focus is fragile here also, WD40 helped :) |
| 18:47.23 | ff_ | actually it was faulty :) |
| 18:57.59 | ff_ | or if you want volume shortcuts or any other keyboard shortcut find out somewhere in arm distro "evkey" and command "evkey -d -t -1 /dev/input/event1" gives you number of pressed key |
| 18:58.45 | ff_ | volume gives 65 and 66 |
| 19:00.53 | newbieAlert | thank you :) |
| 19:03.34 | ff_ | what's a nice crew here :) |
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| 22:05.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues powervr |
| 22:05.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues pvr |
| 22:06.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys pvr |
| 22:07.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~status |
| 22:07.07 | infobot | Since Sun Jan 8 22:03:08 2017, there have been 0 modifications, 2 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 5 commands. I have been awake for 3m 59s this session, and currently reference 119643 factoids. I'm using about 79256 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 2.13/0.09 child 0/0 |
| 22:07.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys #maemo |
| 22:07.34 | ff_ | did you create this infobot, DocS? |
| 22:07.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | ff_: nope |
| 22:07.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~owner |
| 22:07.44 | infobot | TimRiker is my owner |
| 22:08.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | ff_: I'm only (one of) admin of the bot |
| 22:09.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | so I can kick her ass ;-) |
| 22:09.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+help die |
| 22:09.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
| 22:10.26 | ff_ | is it only this channel, or it needs manually start? |
| 22:10.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~chaninfo |
| 22:10.59 | infobot | 122/122 channels, 4543 users, 3471 unique: #debian/1647, #kde/520, #gsoc/258, #devuan/168, #asterisk/165, #maemo/160, #wowuidev/147, #oe/121, #wowace/94, #neo900/82, #cubieboard/56, #harmattan/55, #bzflag/49, #arm-netbook/49, #wowhead/46, #qi-hardware/46, #meego/46, #openmoko/42, #utah/41, #curseforge/40, #maemo-ssu/39, #elinux/36, #openmoko-cdevel/33, #webos-internals/32, #asterisk-dev/32, #brlcad/27, #uphpu/24, #slug/23, #sc2mapster/23, ... |
| 22:11.31 | ff_ | nice |
| 22:11.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | sometimes^H always after netsplits, the bot doesn't log in again |
| 22:11.46 | *** join/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net) |
| 22:12.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | so I reboot it via ssh |
| 22:13.00 | ff_ | it can be helpfull |
| 22:13.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | it is, unless people simply reject it |
| 22:13.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | in some channels the concept of an infobot isn't appreciated |
| 22:14.52 | ff_ | the matter of choice |
| 22:14.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | without infobot i'd feel lost. I wouldn't know all the URLs I offloaded to her, particularly |
| 22:15.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing |
| 22:15.56 | infobot | i heard maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing |
| 22:16.16 | ff_ | ~eink |
| 22:17.20 | ff_ | something like n900 with eink & lcd display would be fantastico :) |
| 22:17.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehe yes |
| 22:19.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | e-ink 11" rolled up to only form a 10mm*25mm*<height of display> device |
| 22:19.06 | ff_ | and with a litte bit more of memory, cpu as second but ya |
| 22:19.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | would 4 times the memory suffice? ;-) |
| 22:20.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | still no e-ink, but... neo900 at least provides as much memory as technically feasible |
| 22:21.41 | ff_ | min 512MB, 1GB is fine, 2GB with maemo will be great |
| 22:23.30 | ff_ | but it's pricey |
| 22:25.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | 2GB isn't feasible on OMAP3 |
| 22:25.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | missing addr lines |
| 22:25.41 | ff_ | r0kk3rz sed: "I think for mass appeal and ease of procurement it should be a straight forward android device with a keyboard. After delivery we can worry about porting various operating systems to it, like fremantle or sailfish or whatever people want. |
| 22:25.45 | ff_ | I know many people here wont like that idea, but its the best way to keep costs down maximise volume" |
| 22:25.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | you'd need paging, like on early DOS PCs |
| 22:26.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | won't fly |
| 22:28.13 | ff_ | so, with OMAP3 is 1GB max? |
| 22:28.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | you can't compete to Samsung, LG et al on an android playground, when your only seeling point is a hw lbd |
| 22:28.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 22:28.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | selling* |
| 22:29.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | selling point is a hw keyboard* - now |
| 22:30.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | and actually you can't port fremantle to all arbitrary android devices. Not only because of fremantle closed blobs (which we mostly REed meanwhile) but particularly because of android closed blobs for the hardware |
| 22:33.32 | ff_ | struggle on two sides, hm it can be more difficult then I thought in first glance |
| 22:35.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | if porting would be that easy, then maemo6 aka HARM(attan) aka N9's OS would have ported to a vast number of more recent hardware already |
| 22:38.11 | ff_ | many devs probably is trying it already |
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| 22:38.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | Jolla tried to implement a maemo resurrection called sailfish (based on nemo/mer) *on top* of existing Android hardware abstraction layer. Seems while they achieved to roll out something, the appeal of maemo got lost |
| 22:39.17 | ff_ | or maybe few, because they know :) |
| 22:41.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | I for one barely touch my jolla phone once a year, since the hardware-introduced quirks suck donkey balls. E.G you can't do a clean full reflash on jolla phone, since Jolla Inc doesn't own the copyright to the blobs and thus can't provide a full "firmware image" to do a full reflash of that snapdragon crap in jollaphone |
| 22:42.29 | ff_ | so, is it music of past - light, clean, fast, mobile OS? |
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| 22:43.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | unlike many others, I consider maemo fremantle a viable alternative |
| 22:44.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's probably still the best cleanest comprehensive phone OS I've seen so far |
| 22:46.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | and right this moment already gets ported to a cheap tablet by freemangordon and a few others |
| 22:46.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | and it's the OS of choice for Neo900 |
| 22:46.32 | ff_ | and still some parts of hardware are great, like fmtx, hw kb and so on |
| 22:48.20 | ff_ | we'll see what future bring |
| 22:49.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | I hope Neo900, "soon". Right now we're in layout of prototype_v2 |
| 22:50.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | "porting" of fremantle to Neo900 should be a nobrainer |
| 22:50.30 | ff_ | certainly another opportunities |
| 22:50.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~fptf |
| 22:50.46 | infobot | it has been said that fptf is the Fremantle Porting Task Force, see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91308 |
| 22:50.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91142 |
| 22:51.04 | ff_ | :) |
| 22:53.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://xkcd.com/1782/ :-P |
| 22:59.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | "2078: He announces that he's finally making the jump from screen+irssi to tmux+weechat." LOL |
| 23:00.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | must be ME |
| 23:00.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | wait, I never really used irssi |
| 23:02.18 | ff_ | :) |
| 23:05.55 | ff_ | beauty of simplicity |
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| 23:30.08 | sixwheeledbeast | ~irc |
| 23:30.08 | infobot | irc is, like, Welcome to IRC, where the men are of reduced skin pigmentation, the women are all above average, and the little girls are FBI agents. Most of the best developers to be found are on irc--only watch your step--this place can be a little rough. |