| 00:43.01 | ds3 | Mmmm android on LXC |
| 00:43.06 | ds3 | that should be the default all all the phones |
| 00:51.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | how about coding a wjatsapp virus to bring that abomination down for good, so people learn to avoid "free" apps that simply rob their contact data and thus make those silly users deliberately-ignorant accomplices of data thieves |
| 00:54.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | ds3: indeed that was one of the very (too) late rescue concepts for a way ahead for all Nokia phones, when it became obvious that Elop just sold Nokia to M$ |
| 00:55.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | linux as host OS and whatever Symbian or maemo or windows-CE or $younameit in a VM or container or sth like that |
| 00:55.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | if only they had started that concept a 5 years earlier |
| 00:59.00 | ds3 | DocScrutinizer05: I was thinking more that as a way to keep android in check |
| 00:59.23 | ds3 | I been wanting to do android in a container for a long long time but never got around to doing |
| 01:00.19 | ds3 | another option is UML but UML on arm doesn't seem to work |
| 01:00.42 | ds3 | Not sure if LXC has changed but OpenVZ was a stronger container |
| 01:01.17 | ds3 | even within pure Maemo, LXC'ing the browser seemed like a good thing but no one here seems to think so |
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| 01:45.21 | Oksanaa | Annoying... Somebody tries to get us to use Viber; do they have an app for feature phone ( from South Korea, unidentified OS ), Keon ( Firefox OS ) or Nokia N900 ( Maemo 5 )? |
| 01:46.01 | Oksanaa | Or Nokia N9, for that matter... |
| 01:48.16 | Oksanaa | For Symbian would be interesting too, for that matter, though we did not figure out how to insert SIM card into Nokia 5230 properly. |
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| 02:10.09 | fishbulb | I hvea an external DAC/headphone amp that works with android 4 and above |
| 02:10.23 | fishbulb | it's plug and play in linux too |
| 02:10.46 | fishbulb | I can't find how to change the sound output to this thing with the n900 |
| 02:12.01 | fishbulb | or whether it's connected or not, how would I find the driver if one is needed? what linux kernel does the n900 use? |
| 02:12.09 | Oksanaa | Huh... Good question. First, which part of Linux speaks with it? Like, is an additional driver or something needed for it? Second, how does N900 differentiate between different things inserted into it, like headsets and headphones? |
| 02:12.38 | fishbulb | nothing has needed a driver so far, my arch or debian installs or my android tablet |
| 02:12.57 | fishbulb | it is an external DAC |
| 02:13.09 | Oksanaa | uname -a gives Linux Nokia-N900 2.6.28.10-power52 #1 PREEMPT Sat Apr 6 11:59:23 UTC 2013 armv7l |
| 02:13.33 | Oksanaa | On my N900 ^ |
| 02:13.37 | fishbulb | incorporates a headphone amp, you can plug the dac into the usb port of supported devices and it works |
| 02:13.57 | fishbulb | oh. 2.6 sounds pretty old compared to... now |
| 02:14.14 | Oksanaa | So USB driver needed, probably, for dac... |
| 02:14.24 | fishbulb | android 4.0 doesn't need it |
| 02:14.29 | Oksanaa | About newer kernel, ask |
| 02:14.37 | Oksanaa | ~fptf |
| 02:14.37 | infobot | [fptf] the Fremantle Porting Task Force, see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91308 |
| 02:14.49 | fishbulb | I dont' think I need or want a newer kernel |
| 02:16.31 | Oksanaa | Currently, no. Alpha-stage, it may be atm. |
| 02:17.05 | Oksanaa | /me searches for dac usb site:maemo.org |
| 02:17.41 | Oksanaa | https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92105 |
| 02:18.18 | Oksanaa | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83270 |
| 02:21.07 | Oksanaa | Fishbulb: do you have power kernel installing? It allows to install h-e-n and use N900 as USB host |
| 02:21.14 | Oksanaa | installed* |
| 02:23.03 | Oksanaa | Next step would be installing smplayer (ALSA-friendly), because PulseAudio is way too difficult to reconfigure properly |
| 02:23.26 | fishbulb | oh shit I forgot you have to enable host mode |
| 02:23.29 | fishbulb | yeah of course I have kernel power |
| 02:23.44 | fishbulb | power kernel |
| 02:24.17 | Oksanaa | Hoping it helps. http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83270 is a very good thread. |
| 02:24.56 | fishbulb | the thing doesn't need power, it contains it's own battery |
| 02:25.15 | Oksanaa | Neat. |
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| 07:17.04 | Vajb | kerio: telegram already does that webclient, standalone client and mobile client. Didn't try linux client yet, but going to at next week. Windows client works well together with purple telegram. |
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| 13:32.43 | jonsger | if I connect my N900 through usb with my PC, there is a folder mount name "Nokia N900". where can I find this folder on the N900 (Busybox shell) itself? |
| 14:04.23 | ShadowJK | ~/MyDocs I think |
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| 18:32.00 | ceene | happy new year guys! |
| 18:32.16 | KotCzarny | http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1343302675590_9198477.png |
| 18:32.32 | KotCzarny | happy arbirtrary cyclic sun orbiting festivity |
| 18:32.32 | ceene | pesters KotCzarny last time in the year about open sourcing oscp |
| 18:32.44 | KotCzarny | oh, right |
| 18:32.57 | ceene | :D |
| 18:33.00 | ceene | cya! |
| 18:33.03 | KotCzarny | my laziness is huge |
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| 19:27.53 | Vajb | KotCzarny: how is imgur client coming together? |
| 19:28.07 | Vajb | oh and will it be open source |
| 19:30.55 | KotCzarny | surely, i was looking into it and apparently it uses something old, very old, or even just linkscraping |
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| 19:47.44 | jonwil | hi |
| 19:59.29 | sicelo- | hi jonwil. 2017 already in your world :) |
| 19:59.38 | jonwil | yeah :) |
| 20:03.41 | jonwil | Lets hope 2017 brings good things for the world of Maemo :) |
| 20:05.39 | sicelo- | looks like .. seen latest video from FMG? http://46.249.74.23/allwinner/20161225_001.mp4 |
| 20:13.24 | jonwil | I am more interested in good things for people using a N900, not good things for people who want to use Maemo bits on other hardware :) |
| 20:14.16 | jonwil | The N900 is still the best phone that exists (at least as long as the Neo900 doesn't exist in full final hardware yet :) |
| 20:14.59 | sicelo- | i won't have the other hardware for sure :-/ |
| 20:15.16 | KotCzarny | never say never |
| 20:15.27 | sicelo- | so i'm also looking forward to keeping them alive as far as possible |
| 20:15.34 | KotCzarny | those allwinner tablets are dirt cheap |
| 20:18.08 | sicelo- | not here :) |
| 20:18.21 | sicelo- | anyway, cheap is one part of the equation ... |
| 20:18.46 | jonwil | If you could create a top-5 wishlist for 2017 for Maemo, what would that wishlist be? |
| 20:19.43 | sicelo- | in addition to buying the AW, there's the low level work .. which might be harder on the tables, because the hardware might vary greatly. all N900 are the same (mostly, discounting those mysterious hardware IDs) |
| 20:20.34 | KotCzarny | well, in the case of allwinner most of the job is already done by community |
| 20:25.27 | sicelo- | hmm |
| 20:26.05 | KotCzarny | but no hurry, it will take a bit for maemo to mature enough to be usable for end users on generic linux |
| 20:40.37 | RST38h | You mean, Maemo is not mature enough but will definitley mature? |
| 20:41.00 | RST38h | And you mean it not as in "ossify"? |
| 20:42.03 | RST38h | Or even "petrify"? |
| 20:54.51 | KotCzarny | you might say it would liven enough to find new hosts |
| 21:26.03 | sicelo- | wow. firefox just ate up all 8GB of RAM and 9GB swap on my pc |
| 21:29.16 | KotCzarny | he he he. |
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